Does food insecurity cause poverty or vice versa?

Hunger is not bigger than we are, hunger is not better than we are, and it's beyond us to solve. We all know about opposable thumbs. But, what about the opposable mind? Tune in to hear the thought-provoking topic of the opposable mind: using integrative thinking in order to create tension between ideas and apply that result of that tension to problems that thus far has escaped our mastery. Does food insecurity cause poverty or vice versa? Phil and Gerry delve into the chicken and the egg conversation about food insecurity and poverty.