Welcome to the VergeCast, the flagship podcast of sending your kids to college. I'm David Amell, another David, filling in for David Pierce here and there while he's away. He's actually out contributing to society while I remain a childless cat man. Today on the show, we're talking to the Verge's senior smart home reviewer Jennifer Patterson-Tuyi about something a lot of parents are dealing with right now sending their kids to college. But of course, Jen being Jen, she wanted to set her son's dorm room up with the same smart home stuff that he's been using for the last 18 years. So I'm going to be asking her how that went and
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Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Before we get started into the smart home dorm stuff, your son's off to his first year in college right now. We heard you on the Verge Cast a few days ago talking about Alexa and Gemini and asking for advice on how to handle that. So how does that been going for you?
Well, I don't generally take the advice of AI. That was more just for demo. But it was kind of interesting what it had to say, which was the piece of advice I hear from a lot of people, which is you just got to let them fly. Don't check it on them, and that's been the hardest part. I have life for $60. But in general, it's been a really fun experience for all of us.
The whole of the Verge Cast is all about babies right now, whereas I'm letting my baby fly off. So I'm at the other end of the spectrum for the rest of the staff looking at their exciting news with fond memories, but every stage of your kid's life is so much fun. And I have to say this one has been one of the most exciting and for a smart home reviewer, moving into a new room, a new dorm, a new space was like, I'm a kid in a candy store, like I get to try new things, try things that I probably wouldn't have done in my own home. And also he'd been in his room since he was six. So we'd never really done a complete makeover.
And this was an exciting time for both of us. Yeah, I imagine there's a big difference between having a room since he was six, that you were just retrofitting with things as they came out and then taking the state of the art and just completely building out a room with what we have available today. Yeah, no, it was a really fun experiment for me, especially as I often get asked questions around smart home devices for renters or smart home devices for smaller spaces or apartments. And I live in a single family home and I've not had a lot of experience in those spaces. So it was great for me to be able to try out a new space.
It was kind of like a dorm room, extreme makeover, because I had like two hours and I had no idea what I was going to do or what was going to work because I hadn't even really seen the space. So it was like, one of the property brother twins, just given a box of things in a room and go like go. Yeah, was your son mostly on board with you kidding out his dorm room? He was, he was excited. He has never been a huge, like I must have this smart tech, but I think that's also because it's just been around him his entire life.
And he, you know, it's sort of just part of things, a light switch that doesn't, that he doesn't need to use a switch, he just uses his voice as just the way it's always been. I've made this joke before on the verge of gas, but this actually happened again, which made me laugh. So the very first time he went away from home, he went to Clemson, which is where he's at college now, for a tennis camp and he was, I think, 14 or 15. And so he took him to a dorm, they were staying in dorms for the week, and they handed him a key and I walked down to the dorm with his stuff and he went to like, looked at the key and looked at the door and looked at me. How do we use this archaic technology?
I've never used one of these before. To be fair, even in 2013 when I was in college, they had key cards for our dorm room. Okay, so it wasn't, yeah, he wasn't completely unusual. And his not new dorm room does have a key and he went to use the key and he knew how to use the key. To be clear, it just wasn't working.
But yeah, they use their phones, their student pass and their door key, everything is on their phone. So yeah, he just used his phone to, it has like the reader, it's like a reader you would use to get into your office, that kind of thing. So yeah, it started off smart. So he was happy to continue, but we were kind of limited. And like I said, I didn't know what we were going to be able to do.
So I just kind of like piled a whole bunch of gear that I was thinking, this might work. And then like I said, I had my sort of stopwatch and let's go. Whereas, were roommates kind of down for you to kid it all out? Yes, they were. So his roommate is his best friend since second grade.
So he's totally used to all of this stuff. But the main thing that was the most important thing for both of them, and I think really the most interesting part for any kind of dorm room was lighting, was the smart lighting. Because I mean, the dorm rooms, this may be different in colleges across the country, but I'm guessing not two fluorescent lights. It's body fluorescent lights from the ceilings. Yep, nothing that you want to be working in for sure.
No, just miserable. Like, I think we have some before and after pictures, but you can see what it would look like before all brightly lit. I mean, it's definitely like keep you awake. But also not, I mean, there's so much about lighting that does affect your mood and how to be able to change that mood from like bright and light in the morning, when you're getting ready to sort of a good light for studying to sort of wind down mode. That's the Canadian rhythm.
That is all really important, especially when you're making such a big change in your life, going from living at home, going to high school to being independent, living on your own and college, to have something that just kind of helps you feel better, I think was really, I mean, I don't think he viewed it that way. I think he viewed it more like, I should be lighting cool, but for me, I was like, this just feels like a nice place to be. And they only have one window and it's like in the corner of the room. So there was really no natural lighting. Just like my apartment, it's just like me.
Yeah, we should note that when Smart Home stuff was first coming onto the market, the number one thing was always the smart lighting. And it seems that that is still people's biggest desire when it comes to smart home equipment. Now, my question here is, a lot of the Wi-Fi networks at colleges have weird like captive portals and things like that. Did you experience any sort of strange setup issues that you wouldn't have at an actual regular home? You know?
Well, so I haven't completely finished because I would say this out front, because I guess I got there with no idea what I was going to face. I knew they had Wi-Fi, but I didn't know whether I would be able to connect any of the devices. And I wasn't able to do any Wi-Fi connection while I was there. However, we've since discovered, and I think it wasn't up and running yet, it was one of the reasons that the university has three separate Wi-Fi networks. They have one for you to connect your computers to.
And then they have one for you to connect like guest network, and then they have one specifically for media devices. And that's like if you want to set up a streamer device or a smart speaker, those types of things. And that required, you had to like log the, you are not the URL, the Mac ID of all the devices you wanted with the university. It's like, this is not something I'm going to be doing in two hours. And I kind of knew that that was going to be the case.
It was going to Wi-Fi was going to be an issue. So I kind of went into this with, I don't want to have to rely on Wi-Fi. I want to set this room up so that it can be completely controlled without using Wi-Fi, which was a challenge. And I was excited to try that out and see if I could sum out that challenge, because also in a smart home, even though you don't need the internet for a lot of locally controlled devices, you do need a LAN, you do need a local area network, some form of Wi-Fi to further communication. And so, and I didn't have that as an option.
There were ethernet ports in the room. And we plugged his, he has a gaming PC, we plugged it in. It was 935 gigabytes. I was like, oh, okay, you get it. So you get a gig of it internet and you get his dorm room.
Okay. I was surviving off of like one megabit. So that's, that's pretty amazing. That's pretty amazing. I had to ask David before we dive in more on to my son's dorm.
What was your dorm like? Because I think dorms changed quite a lot. You know, it's funny. I went to school in Santa Cruz, which was right in the heart of Silicon Valley. And we still, we still had terrible.
It was not, it was not built out. I'm sure Stanford or something would have been nice. But we had one wifi network that didn't work half the time. And you really had to go to the computer lab to get anything done. But you know, I was also very, didn't have a lot of money.
So I was working off at Old Delta Square. But yeah, definitely not smart. Smart home stuff was brand new at the time. So, and if that really. So what else besides the lighting did you guys want to install in this dorm?
There were a few things that we kind of earmarked beforehand that I wanted. I wanted him to have a smart speaker. Eventually I want, I'm hoping we'll be able to get back connected. But I also wanted to be his alarm clock. So I went with what is probably my favorite smart alarm clock option, which is the Amazon Echo Spot.
Because it doesn't have a big screen, which can be distracting. And also if it's an Echo device, we'll show you an ad. If it has a big screen. And then it has, but it does have the time. And you can, you know, you can have some manual control of it to turn on and off and set things.
So that was one thing I wanted him to have. And once we do get the wifi, if we do the wifi step, he'll be able to use voice control. And it's also all of the Echo devices are Matter controllers. So that's my next stage. If I get to spend another two hours is I want to use local Matter devices in the home.
And most everything I did set up can now connect to Matter in the future. When we get the local area network going. The other thing I had heard from other mums was that the air quality in the dorms was pretty bad. That's true. That's generally true.
Yeah. So an air purifier was an important one. And the voice actually wanted that too. So that wasn't sort of something we had to convince them. I gave them a couple options of ones I wanted them to try.
And they went with the kind of cool black one, which is a we love air purifier. It's a really good air purifier and it's also Matter compatible. But it has controls on it. So this was another key thing for me. I wanted everything that I put in the room to be able to be controlled either over Bluetooth using the phone.
Or have actual physical devices because I didn't want his roommate to have to download apps to be able to turn these on and off. To press some buttons, turn things on and off for sure. Yeah. So and the we love has really nice clear controls on the top. And there's like a sleep mode you can just hit at night that turns the lights off.
It also has cool fun RGB lighting on it. So which is something they both really wanted. Benefits you in college. Yeah. And for the listeners, the benefit of Matter for sure is that it's all local correct.
Like that's yeah. That kind of gets around the college Wi-Fi issue a little bit. So that had been my thought. But because I couldn't even get on at all to any. So one thing what I was thinking about doing and then we will go back.
Okay. So I'm going to try and do the whole Mac ID route, but is there I do have an ethernet port. So I was thinking I could just get like a small inexpensive router and just set up your own network. Is that allowed at a lot of these colleges? Yeah, that wasn't sure.
Yeah. I haven't I hadn't dug into the TOS of the college internet yet and probably not. I said from the get go because I there was a lot of unknowns variables. And to your point, you know, yeah, this college he's actually we didn't mention me. He's at Clemson University in South Carolina has excellent Wi-Fi and ethernet.
But a lot don't and you may not want the load of some of these devices on whatever system you're using, especially if you know you are using Wi-Fi for your work. That's the priority in college, right? The work. Yeah, not the hours of gaming late into the avoiding your homework. No, I know. So yeah, I again, being able to control things locally, but yes,
matter is a local area can be used entirely locally without an internet connection for certain devices. And it's up to the individual device manufacturer, how they set up their device, but that is sort of built into it that you should be able to control it locally on a local land. So there's also thread, which would be the option instead of Wi-Fi. But for that, you need a thread border router, which also needs to connect to the internet. And there are some thread devices that can just talk to each other, but the kind of devices we were setting up in the smart home in his smart dorm didn't really fit in that mall.
He didn't need a lot of the kind of like sensors, door locks, that kind of stuff. And also thread lighting. I did think about thread lighting, but they just weren't a lot of options yet. And I really wanted to have that Bluetooth control. And we didn't mention this, but there were only two brands I could find that I knew I could reliably set up and be able to control with an app to turn on and off and change the color and change the tone sooner to get that sort of, you know, that nice ambience.
Most smart lighting does need Wi-Fi. Even if it has Bluetooth, you still need Wi-Fi for any kind of control, even just directly through the app while you're in the room. The two brands that you can control locally over Bluetooth are Philips Hue, which was a little pricey with this setup. And also they do have some newer, less expensive ones, but what he really wanted was the really fun colors and the kind of effects, really fun RGB type effects. So we went with Govey, which is the other brand that also has complete local Bluetooth control.
So he can just open the app. He's got three devices set up right now. We have a floor lamp, a table lamp, and a light strip under his bed. So his bed's lofted. So the light strip's under his bed and his desk is under his bed.
So it kind of gives him like that soft light, but over his workspace. Because the other big challenge is you can't stick things on walls and dorms. Right. They probably have very specific rules around that. Very much so.
So how did you get that around? Did you just have to only use lamps and stuff that we're standing on their own? So lamps with the big key there, as long as you've got some outlets, big pro tip, take as many extension cords with you as you can. Because there's so much you need to plug in. And I think I ended up leaving him with five separate extensions.
Wow. Yeah, so we did lamps. And then we also, he has a salt lamp, which has color in it too. So yeah, lamps were the best solution. And then the only place we could put the light strips were under his lofted bed.
But that worked well, because then that's over his desk and his desk now has. Like, because that's the other downside of being under a lofted bed is you don't have any light, even from the overhead light. So yeah, once we had the Bluetooth set up, so now he can just open up and hit and one button off and all three lights will turn off and one button on and they'll turn on. And then he can change the colors and you can also sync Govie devices to music. So he can do that with his phone.
He can have his, you know, one of the lights sort of flash while he's studying. Right. Considering he has a roommate, the roommate has access to all these things too through his apps. Yeah. So I told him to have him download the app if he wants, but he can also just so they all have physical controllers.
So you can just turn off. And will that sync to like all the devices that were just one at a time? No, because they're not networked, which they, you know, that's a bad way to connect with them. No, you'd have to turn them off individually. You know, it's a hardship, but it's kind of like just using the light switch.
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Cause that's like, that seems to be the other big category for people. That's what I want to do next. Because so the other really interesting challenge in this room was the lofted bed. So you don't have a bedside table. So I was like, how's he going to have his alarm clock?
And we also needed a light up there and a fan because it's South Carolina. It's like 900 degrees here right now. And also his phone. So actually I came up with a really cute, I think this was a great solution. I did see on TikTok.
So I'm not taking credit for it. There is the dorm room makeover. TikTok is a rabbit hole. You could spend a lot of time in if you want to go down it. There's some crazy stuff out there.
But this was a great solution because you can't see anything on the wall. It was a suction mount for your car. Just suction to the wall. And then I got an extra long, like 10 foot USB-C charger. Plug that in down underneath because obviously all the outlets are down on the ground floor.
And so he can just put his phone and I told him put it horizontally and it'll be in standby mode. And he'll be just like your clock right next year head when you go to bed. So that was my solution for the alarm clock up there. And then he has another alarm clock as the spot down on the main level. But yeah, that worked out pretty well.
And then we just clipped a little like inexpensive clip like on the side of the rail they have to make sure you don't fall off and break your neck. Right. Right. That was a lot of technology when I was a car. But yeah, the smart plugs is a good one.
I'm definitely going to try and, but you need the Wi-Fi or you need some kind of hub to connect to that. And I hadn't got that set up yet. Considering you had to have a lot of loopholes to get around all these college restrictions, do you think that companies should be making smart home stuff specifically for dorm rooms? It seems like a pretty open opportunity to me. Yeah, especially for this last couple of years, it seems to be people are spending a lot of money on their college dorm setups.
And I think I'm not sure they really need to make a big change. I just, I do think the Bluetooth element really helps. I mean, I've always sort of poo pooed using Bluetooth in the smart home because the range is bad. You know, if you leave the room, you can no longer control it. But a dorm room is a space that is sort of uniquely designed for you to just be using it when you're in it.
You don't really need to control it in any way when you're not there, especially because the key situation is already under the control of the university. You have your key there. You don't need a smart lock or any sort of smart security. I did float the idea of cameras, but both of them said no. I'd probably say no to that too.
So. I just was like, you know, maybe you could have one that you could turn on when you leave, just in case you're worried about any kind of security. But I did also float a doorbell. And there was this was a good solution. The switch bar has a doorbell.
So when someone presses the doorbell, it automatically shows up on the interior display and you do not need to connect that to any internet. It's just communicating directly. And it can be battery powered, which again, not going to be wiring a doorbell in any dorm. I thought that was a good solution. And we did try that out.
And he said, no one uses it. And that is my experience with video doorbells in general. People just knock on the door. Yeah, it's not really you're not saving a lot of time by by. Yeah, it's a that also has a local SD card on it.
So it could store recordings, but we couldn't get we weren't able to get that recording functionality set up without the Wi-Fi. But we were able to get it to set up so that you could just see so they can see who's at the front door and ignore them if they wanted to. Which any college dorm you might not really be able to. But yeah, it can be hard. And of course, I did think about a robot vacuum because I'm like, my son does not use vacuums.
It would be helpful, especially for a very small, very square space. Yeah, but they kind of they were humming and herring about that. So that's that's the next step. Next time I'm going back in like three weeks and I'm probably going to swap all this stuff out. But the problem I thought with the robot vacuum was that you really do have to look after it.
It needs some some maintenance and someone to sort of take ownership and I could just imagine I would come back in three weeks and it would be under a bed with like seven cables sucked into it and dead. Don't have it in my apartment too for what it's worth. Did you have a robot vacuum in your apartment? I don't because I live in the cellar where the floors are super warped and there's no way it would it would just crash all the time. Well, we ended up going with a stick vac because that makes sense.
It's simple and you know, they do have to clean their rooms. They have to manually do it themselves. Yeah, do a little hard labor. Yeah, so and then of course a Bluetooth speaker was another thing that they both really wanted. Which one did you get for them?
So a lot of the stuff I got for him was things that I had around line around pro tip when you start planning for college shop your house first. That's a great thing. Yeah, you don't have to buy everything brand new especially especially for dorm room that only going to be there for a year. I did think about this for things that were going to could easily translate into the next space that they're going to be living in. But in terms of the dorm room itself, so this was actually a speaker I've had for I think I've had this for almost like eight years.
It was an older one, but it's a Marshall and it's it's really cool because it looks like an amp and my son's roommate is a big guitar player. So it fits the vibe. Yeah, and it also has a Lexa built in. But again, we didn't get that. We haven't got that side of the smart home set up.
I'm not sure if he even needs it. That was the other reason I was waiting on the Wi-Fi. I was like, let's see if you feel like you need it. And so we go back up in like two three weeks and I was like, let's see how your first two weeks go and if you enjoy it or not. And so far it's all been pretty positive.
I haven't had a lot of chance to find out because you know college kids don't call their mums very often. That's yeah, I would. But I did get some text this morning because I was like, do you mind if I talk about all of your gear? I'm on the podcast. Great.
And he said, all the GoVy stuff has worked great and has been really easy to use. So that was good. Okay. And then I said, how about the doorbell and he says no one's using it. Okay.
Very good. Yeah, that's good info. Good info. The stuff you don't need is just as important as the stuff you do need. Exactly.
That's the you don't want to take too much. And then I said, is your room the coolest one you've seen? And he didn't reply. Yeah. Because I was very proud of his room.
I thought we did a good job. Yeah. Well, for parents that are sent to the kids to college in the next few weeks because we're entering college season. Just to wrap up here and give people like a takeaway. What are the top three to five things you think are actually making a difference in a storm?
So I would say the lighting, you know, obviously we kicked off with that. And that's what they were most excited about. And again, to the point of like, is the room making a like it? That's the type of thing your roommates going to appreciate, I think. Unless you're just going to be flashing your lights all day.
But I don't think that's been happening. So I do think that the lighting is really key. The thing I wasn't expecting to really want or need, but I'm glad we did bring was the air purifier. Great call. Could I use that?
Yeah. They're already sick and they're going to be there a week. So I don't think that was the air purifier's fault. I think that was probably going to happen anymore. The thousands of other kids, yes.
That is probably what happened. And then yeah, a good Bluetooth speaker. Because you know, there are lots of inexpensive ones that have tinny sound, but the marshal, even though it's pretty old, and there's a new version of it you can buy these days. But something like that they're going to have for a really long time. It's going to work and you've got really good sound.
So light and sound are two things that's going to make a room feel more like home. And I think that as long as you don't annoy the neighbors too much with loud noise. I think those two are really good options. And then the surprise winner for me was the suction cup by the wall for the lofted bed. It's hard to, you know, you don't want too much stuff up there and you don't want cables that might like strangle them in their sleep.
And so that was like, I was like 20 bucks on Amazon. I forget the name of the brand off the top of my head. I can, there's so many of them though. Yeah. Sometimes the tic-tac-tac are the ones that are actually useful.
Wigoo, there you go. Wigoo, vacuum magnetic phone holder for your car. That worked so well. I was very proud of myself on that one. So yeah, and then I did a lot of tech for the desk set up too.
But that was, you know, I think the most important thing there, as I mentioned, is extension cables. Bring lots and bring different sizes and shapes with different plug sizes and figure out which one works. Because those, you know, you need to be creative with using the outlets and the space that you have. So some kind of cable management when you're trying to make the space feel more like home is definitely worth considering. Those would be my top tips.
And you don't need the Wi-Fi, but if you have the Wi-Fi, you can get a little broader and you can add voice control and out of home, out of room control. So that would be the next level. Well, I think with enough RGB, your son is going to be the most popular kid in college. So Jennifer Patterson, thank you for joining us. I'm excited to hear what you end up adding and changing when you go back in three weeks.
What he has to say, we're going to have to have you back on the show and maybe we can get your son on the show at some point. That might actually be pretty helpful. Oh, fine. We'll see if we can nail him down for 10 minutes on a video call. It's not easy.
That's true. I remember those days. All right. I appreciate it. Thank you for coming.
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