EPISODE · Sep 14, 2026 · 11 MIN
Dr. Robert Malone discusses Dr. Fauci, mRNA vaccines, and homesteading.
from The Charlie James Show Podcast
Host Charlie James interviews Dr. Robert Malone regarding ongoing revelations surrounding Dr. Anthony Fauci's government emails, diaries, and records. Dr. Malone highlights a forthcoming book by Peter Navarro advocating for Dr. Fauci's legal accountability and critiques Dr. Fauci's immense influence over federal biodefense budgets, public messaging, and the expedited approval process for mRNA vaccine technology. They discuss the rapid regulatory clearance of new mRNA applications—such as seasonal flu shots—despite concerns about limited testing in vulnerable populations like the elderly. Dr. Malone suggests financial interests, patent holdings, and a desire to establish a universal vaccine platform drove the widespread mandate of mRNA technology. Finally, Dr. Malone introduces his newly published book, Homesteading for Health, co-authored with his wife, which advocates for personal self-reliance, food independence, and lifestyle control.
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Full Transcript (Hour 3, Segment 1) Charlie James: Well, we've been hearing a lot about Dr. Fauci over the past couple of months, uh, mainly because they found his—now listen to the ego this guy's got—they found his diary on government servers. And what we found in those was absolutely amazing. We also found evidence that he was trying to hide some things. Well, there's a new book out, it's called PsyWar: Enforcing the New World Order. It's co-authored by Dr. Robert Malone, one of the men who helped develop the mRNA vaccine. Dr. Malone, welcome to the program. Hope you're doing well. Dr. Robert Malone: Well, thank you, and thanks for having me on. Actually, PsyWar has been out for about uh, a year and a half now. Charlie James: Oh, okay. Dr. Robert Malone: Yeah. Charlie James: Well, I'll tell you what, um, well let—let me ask you this, you know, because, you know, here's Fauci. We found out all of that stuff about his, you know, on his diary; we found that he tried to delete uh, and cover up some information. What do you think should happen to Dr. Fauci? Dr. Robert Malone: Well, that's a great question. Um, a—I just uh, have finished both uh, editing and now reviewing the new book from Peter Navarro... Charlie James: Yeah. Dr. Robert Malone: ...uh, that that speaks directly to that. And uh, he doesn't pull his punches, if you know uh, Dr. Navarro at all. Right? Uh, um, uh, the title uh—let's see if I can get it—um, the title's quite something. Uh, let's see. It's—it's something like uh, Fauci Must Rot in Prison. Um... Charlie James: A lot of people share that sentiment. Dr. Robert Malone: Yeah, so—so uh, just to put a plug for Peter, my friend... uh, you can buy the book now on Amazon as a pre-order; it's going to come out in October. Charlie James: This was—I mean, we're—we're finding out more and more just how much propaganda and behavioral control was—was manufactured by Fauci, right? Dr. Robert Malone: Yeah, he was right at the center of uh, really an—an empire. As—as he was—remember, he was the most highly paid federal employee, far exceeding the pay that the president gets. And uh, he's now has the biggest pension of any US federal employee, I think in history. But uh, the way that all came about is he kind of became king of both the Department of Defense budget for biodefense-related stuff—countermeasures—as well as the NIAID budget, that's the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, within HHS. So, he stood atop the whole stack of of uh, control and responsibility for everything relating to biodefense since, you know, that—that has been developed as a huge, really empire, uh, after the 9/11 attacks and the anthrax letter attacks. So, he had enormous power. He had a—a press room focused on communicating to corporate media of over 35 people. I mean, imagine that. Sitting there as a public servant, and he's got over 35 people con-, you know, managing his messaging uh, ensuring that uh, he's able to control information and message. And uh, and he also had staff that were actively looking for awards uh, that he might get. Um, it just goes on and on. As you said uh, in your—in your opening kind of uh, monologue there, the man uh, did not lack for ego. And uh, he—he, you know, the—some—some might say—I'm a physician so I couldn’t provide the diagnosis—some might say he was a raging narcissist. Uh, and—and the uh, the diary certainly would support that uh, thesis. This business about privately admitting one thing and then publicly saying another and attacking other people for saying the various things that he was saying privately in his own diary... It—it all—it all boils down to some rather odd conflict of interest issues. What would cause somebody to behave like this? And what—what was the motivation? Well, clearly, there was enormous financial upside for NIH and NIAID because they held key patents that went into the Moderna vaccine in particular. And uh, the guy—one of the two characters t ...
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