Dr. Susan Branco & Meredith Francom

Send us Fan Mail Have you ever felt caught between two worlds—not quite belonging to either, yet somehow belonging to both? This episode of The Anna Jinja Show explores this profound experience through a conversation with Dr. Susan Branco and Meredith Francom. What you'll hear: Dr. Branco, a Colombian adoptee, licensed counselor, and researcher, shares her personal journey alongside her professional insights. The conversation centers on the "Out of the Fog" model of adoptee consciousness—a framework for understanding how we navigate identity when our stories are complex. One of the most moving moments: Dr. Branco's account of finding her birth family after 25 years of searching. While conducting research on this very topic, she located her Colombian family through a cousin who was also adopted. The reunion has brought both immense joy and ongoing navigation of cultural differences, language, and previously unknown family history. Why this matters (even if you're not connected to adoption): This episode speaks to anyone who has: Questioned where they belong Felt misunderstood or stereotyped Struggled with complex identity Supported someone on a journey of self-discovery Experienced being "othered" in any contextA quote to carry with you: "You are valuable humans on this earth. You deserve to be here. You're survivors. And there's a whole community of us out there waiting and willing and ready to support you." — Dr. Susan Branco The episode also features a powerful reading of Gloria Anzaldúa's poem "To Live in the Borderlands"—a profound reflection on existing between cultures and identities. Guest Links: https://paloaltou.edu/about/faculty/susan-branco-phd-lpc-va-ncc-acs-bc-tmh https://www.clearbrookcounselingprofessionals.com/about/ames-clinic/meredith-francomSupport the show