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Dr. Umar Johnson SNAPS DEFENDING Karmelo Anthony, Talks Austin Metcalf Dad’s Rant & 35 Year Sentence & More - Part 1- Full Episode

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Dr. Umar Johnson returns to It’s Up There with Loon for a full episode conversation on the Karmelo Anthony case, Austin Metcalf, the 35-year sentence, Austin Metcalf’s dad, no Black jurors, stand your ground, self-defense, the appeal, race, and the trial that has divided America. In this episode, Dr. Umar goes all the way in on why he believes the Karmelo Anthony case is bigger than one courtroom. He reacts to the verdict, the 35-year sentence, the no-Black-juror issue, the self-defense argument, Austin Metcalf’s father, the defense team, the witness situation, and the larger question of whether Black children are allowed to defend themselves in America. Loon presses Dr. Umar on the questions people are arguing about right now: Was 35 years justice? Did Karmelo Anthony get a fair trial? Was “touch me and see what happens” a threat or a warning? Would Dr. Umar defend a white teen if the roles were reversed? Did Austin Metcalf’s dad go too far after the verdict? And what should Karmelo’s family do next with the appeal? Dr. Umar also speaks on multiculturalism, Black first, Jake Lang outside the courthouse, the father’s viral rant, Eddie Parra, the defense team, legal execution, jury selection, and why he believes this case exposed a deeper double standard in America. Editorial note: This episode contains commentary and allegations stated by the speakers. Claims about disputed facts, legal strategy, jury selection, race, and individuals involved in the case are attributed to the speakers and should be understood as commentary.  00:00 Dr. Umar Johnson Returns To It’s Up There 01:25 The Pan-African Fast And Spiritual Discipline 03:05 Numerology, Destiny And Alignment 04:35 Why Wealth Comes With Black Responsibility 06:10 Michael Jackson, Money And Philanthropy 07:40 Repentance, Forgiveness And Arrogance 09:15 Loon Brings Up The Karmelo Anthony Case 10:25 Dr. Umar Reacts To The Verdict 11:55 Why Umar Says This Case Is Bigger Than Court 13:25 The Original Crime In America Is Being Black 14:55 Karmelo Anthony, Austin Metcalf And Race In America 16:30 Zimmerman, Rittenhouse, Daniel Penny And Rick Chow Comparisons 18:20 Stand Your Ground And Black Self-Defense 20:00 Could Karmelo Anthony Get A Fair Trial? 21:25 No Black Jurors In The Trial 22:45 Dr. Umar Says Multiculturalism Died 24:15 35 Years For Karmelo Anthony 25:35 Was Murder The Right Charge? 27:00 The Grand Jury Question 28:20 Karmelo Anthony Being Tried As An Adult 29:45 The Caysen Allison Comparison 31:10 Loon Asks The Role-Reversal Question 32:40 Would Umar Defend A White Teen? 34:05 Threat Or Warning? 35:25 The Self-Defense Argument 37:00 Dr. Umar Questions The Defense Team 38:30 The Private Investigator Question 39:55 Why Umar Says The Trial Was An Inside Job 41:40 The Appeal And What Comes Next 43:05 Eddie Parra And The Judas Witness Claim 44:35 Dr. Umar Warns Karmelo About Prison Calls 46:05 Austin Metcalf’s Dad Goes Viral 47:25 Dr. Umar Reacts To Jeff Metcalf’s Rant 49:00 The Victim Impact Moment 50:35 Conditioning Is Stronger Than Intelligence 52:10 Trump And Public Racism 53:45 Where Were The Other Groups For Karmelo? 55:15 Black First 56:45 Jake Lang Outside The Courthouse 58:15 Final Thoughts On Karmelo Anthony, Austin Metcalf And Justice. #DrUmarJohnson #KarmeloAnthony #AustinMetcalf #JeffMetcalf #ItsUpThere #BigLoon #loon Dr. Umar says the Karmelo Anthony case is bigger than one courtroom. Was 35 years justice, or did the trial expose a double standard? Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOOSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dr. Umar Johnson returns to It’s Up There with Loon for a full episode conversation on the Karmelo Anthony case, Austin Metcalf, the 35-year sentence, Austin Metcalf’s dad, no Black jurors, stand your ground, self-defense, the appeal, race, and the...

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