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Once I lost so badly in my fantasy football league that I had to eat an entire kind of dog food covered in wasabi. It was unpleasant. But now, I found the fantasy footballers out on the draft kit. The days of dog food are gone as I dig into their breakouts, values, tiered rankings and much more.
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The Fantasy Footballers Tuesday, July 30th, Mike Wright, Jalou, Jason Moore Andy Holloway. No, you didn't get to talk. Yeah, no, he wasn't going to let another, he heard me chill out and he's like, we're past this. Shut it down.
He made me endure that incredible introduction. That's me. I don't know why YouTube. I love it so much.
It is funny. I'm sure that the YouTube comments right now are saying how funny it is. And realistic. Oh, it's, well, I mean, it's our good friend Chris.
We are happy to have you with us. This is the final July episode of the show. People know it was not a lie. Yes, I can do way better.
That's true. We are here. We are excited to be with you. We have a lot to talk about news.
Players getting paid some money. We have some people not getting money. Everybody gets money unless you're a cowboy. You're a cowboy.
No money for you. It's weird. It's weird. We'll talk about it.
We have our first hungry for more segment on today's show of the year. So that'll be our quick question of the day. And yeah, final July show, which means five days a week, starting August 1st. Yes, which means.
For Paul, who's here? I believe, uh, Hall of Fame isn't Hall of Fame mean this week? Yeah, that's weird. Not that anybody plays now or watches it.
Yeah, but it's football. But it's the symbolic start. That means two weeks from now's preseason. That is true.
So, you know, we're going to have a bunch of questions we answer on today's show. I'll try to help you win your league, but Jason, I am curious now that we're going into this new season as someone that had to be in the presence of two champions with the entire summer. Like what is the kind of mental hurdles you've had to overcome? How do you prepare for a season of us being the champion through the whole year?
And then like what adjustments have you had to make? Because I know there's a lot of people out there that might be more like you and didn't win it this year. Yeah, I mean, it is tough, but I am a man of the people and everyone knows that only one person wins in your league. And I think what you do, if you are in my position, is you just look at history and say, well, well, self, did you win a championship in one of our main three leagues in 10 consecutive years?
And then you're like, okay, yeah, I'm fine. Thank you, Andy, for bringing that up kind of backfired a little bit. I don't know. I was like a real hindsight analysis going on over here.
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And I'm excited. We're doing our League of Record draft right before the kickoff of the first game, which I realized to have a new Com Manager in this league in League of Record. And it is my son. My son is my Com Manager for the first time.
Then I realized I'm going to have to make him. He's going to have to miss school. Oh, wow. You can't have to miss school to come to our League of Record draft because we decided to do it.
Dude, priorities. Good. I mean, like it is. He is going to miss school.
It is what it is, man. It is. It is. Did you get the waiver signed for the 18 plus draft party?
No, I'm not going to say it's the waiver from it. He's going to find a dentist to be like, oh, that's what you could cover for me. That's why I thought you meant to that I would tell the school he's got a dental appointment and then a doctor and then something else. Yeah.
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So it's the off season training campus started. This is the time of extrapolating big things from little videos. And we all have something that we have observed or paid attention to that we are hungry for a little more of. I guess I will toss it over to Jason to start this segment.
What are you hungry for more? Yeah, I am hungry for more of Joe Burrow. I want to see a haircut. Not M&M.
Oh, Halloween outfit, guys. Yeah. I mean, we're all clamoring to see who gets to claim M&M version of Joe Burrow. You know who's stuck with that?
Yeah. That's the shave and able to shave. That's you. But Joe Burrow is someone that, like even when we were preparing for the segment, Kyle, our editor was like, you know, he was, he was besmirching him.
He was calling them their backup quarterback and talking about some stupid stats from last year about, you know, how he was not even as good as Jake Browning. Joe Burrow is an unbelievable top five quarterback in the NFL when healthy. And I am hungry to see that for fantasy purposes, not only for Joe Burrow, who is an absolute steel of value right now, if he's healthy, but also for Jamar Chase, for T Higgins, you've got an offense here that is really, really important for fantasy football. And we are forgetting how good Joe Burrow is.
We talk all the time about how hard it is to be a pocket passer. And if you're a pocket passer, we've talked about it a lot with CJ Stroud, you have benchmarks you have to hit to be valuable in fantasy football. You have to hit. You have to throw for 4,000 yards.
If you're throwing for 3,500 yards, it doesn't work if you're a pocket passer. You have to throw for near 35 plus touchdowns. If you're not doing both of those things at the same time, you're not going to be a consistent, weekly asset. And certainly if you're being drafted highly, you must crush those numbers.
But Joe Burrow has, you know, it's like, what's the best way to know someone can do it in the future? And we forget because last year was a train wreck. Last year, he started, he started, camped the calf injury and was injured and then had the worst start imaginable in those first four weeks. He threw two total passing touchdowns.
He was dead last in yards per pass attempts, dead last in completion percentage as he was working his way back. Once he was healthy, the next five games before the thumb injury and five games, 12 touchdowns, the number one completion rate, you're like, oh, yeah, that's Joe Burrow. Unfortunately got injured. But look at the previous two seasons, the two seasons that are so easy to forget, even though they were just one injured season away where he was the quarterback eight and the quarterback four.
And he was 46 hundred yards and 34 touchdowns. Those are the numbers we need two years ago, then or three years ago, was 44 hundred and 75 yards and 35 passing touchdowns. Oh, and he added two hundred and fifty and five on the ground when he was the quarterback four is a really, really talented quarterback that we pretty much haven't seen in last year was deleted. We lost our appetite.
That's that is why I made him hungry for more because I think people have lost their appetite for Joe Burrow. It is reflected in his average draft price. You look at 2022, he was on average, the 46th player taken. 2023 last season, who's the 32nd player off the board major bust of a season right now.
He's the 63rd player. You do not targeting him. I am. He is he is one of the few and I mean, I still prefer a mobile quarterback.
So like my main targets go in through Richardson, Kyler, Murray, Jane Daniels, but of all the other quarterbacks out there, if I'm deleting the the mobile Russian quarterbacks, he is the best of the pocket pass or for the value, the spot what he's done in the past, the weapons he has, and I'm hungry for more Joe Burrow. Speaking of losing our appetites, Mike has the Broncos back. Yes. And I thought I was hungry for less of that battle.
So tell me why you're hungry for more of the Broncos. I guess you would call it like a sample platter that they have going on. Yeah, you're pretty much a macy from last year. So, yeah, it's just the camp battle that is going on right now is so fascinating because there are really, really large fantasy repercussions from what happens here.
Like they we've talked about of all these guys in the off season. We're hearing more and more about each player. We're talking Jevante Williams, Audrick Estimale-Lauder, Jolio McLaughlin, and Samaje P. Ryan is still on the team.
And we saw, we've heard before training camp started was maybe Jevante and Samaje P. Ryan are battling for one spot. It sounds like McLaughlin and Audrick Estimale are locked into the roster. And like the range of what can happen here of Jevante would be wildly these cut, but people are talking about it all the way to know he's the starter for for a Sean Payton offense.
And let me just read you some of the quotes. So the quote about Jevante here, he's lost weight. He looks trim and this is the coach talking about him. I thought he looks sharp today.
He looked much different. He's weights down and I'm proud of him. But running backs, losing weight often turns into success for fantasy football, but then talking about Estimale. Who wasn't going to lose weight?
Is that what I was saying? Which, dude, realty is charged. Remember Estimale is a day three pick. But he said when the draft started, every once in a while there's a player you'd say, when this thing's all over, I'd love to have this player.
And fortunately, we were able to get this player. He's talking about Audrick Estimale and then talking about McLaughlin. It's the he's here at five or five fifteen in the morning. First one in, last one out, you know, like really commending his work ethic.
And I'm bringing all this up because the history of Sean Payton with running backs, while last year didn't turn into a real focused fantasy production for us, Jevante was running back 30 on the year, but he had 47 receptions. Meanwhile, Samaje P. Ryan had 50 receptions. I mean, just the two of those guys combined, like if we can get 75% of that, if Jevante ends up being the main running back and he's healthy, but looking over the course of what Sean Payton has done, not just with Alva Camara, but in running back fantasy points, the group, their total fantasy points, it's always incredible.
And last year, when it was felt bad, it was still the tenth most points for the running back position, even though it wasn't really usable. So it's just figuring out what is happening here because if Jevante is actually back and closer to the draft prospect that he was and not the guy we saw in the field last year, then you are getting an absolute steal at the running back 30. I don't know if that's the case of what will happen. And then should Jevante Williams, they move on from him, all of a sudden, Andre Gassamie is very interesting because he'll be the first and second down guy, the goal line guy.
So there's just, there is real value here. And it's just, this is like reality TV to me what's happening with these three Bronco running backs. And I love it. I can't get enough of the information about it.
All right. I will go with an athletic, an athletically gifted rookie in Xavier Leggat of the Carolina Panthers. I am hungry to see more. I saw a little highlight of him doing an out route.
Yeah, I am so excited. I'm so excited. Terri Lee from a ball that he had a dive for. Yeah, I mean, that happens in Carolina, but Xavier Leggat, the storyline that Jason has brought up with him, rookie wide receiver in Carolina desperately in need of explosive weapons.
The story has been you saw so little of the top tiers they really get in college. He was one of the latest breakout aged first round wide receivers that we have ever seen over the last decade. When we say breakout age, we mean, when did he have 20 plus percent of the college teams receiving yards, percentage and then the team's receiving touchdowns. He had one big year in South Carolina.
And Brett Coleman had this thread talking about some of the things that Xavier Leggat was up against throughout his adolescence, whether it was losing both of his parents, whether it was starting college and then COVID hits and your development stops, whether it was you started as a wide receiver in high school and then your head coach decides instead of developing you as a wide receiver, we're just going to make you a quarterback and have you run for 1,800 yards as a quarterback in high school so that you don't develop as a wide receiver. He was late to that party when it came to developing the route tree and the opportunities. You saw a little bit of him in the receiver documentary with, with Debo Samuel, who comes from South Carolina as well and kind of brought Leggat under his wing. This is a, I think, an absolutely athletically overwhelming talent in Carolina.
And it would be easy to say, well, he went to a place that didn't produce a lot on offense last year, but I have a lot of confidence in Dave Kanellis and putting people in the right position on this team and giving Bryce Young the best opportunity. And this was a team where we did see, we saw production that helped your fantasy team from and over the hill, Adam Thieland for the first half of the year. And Xavier Leggat is so talented. He's so large.
He's so fast. I trust Dave Kanellis to put him into a good position to succeed. And he talks about it. Like we have quotes from Dave Kanellis.
You talk about being hungry for more out of the backfield, jet sweep, short crosses, perimeter screens down the field post. He said, well, there really isn't much else we do with receivers. He has done it all. He has a massive receiver with explosive ability.
You can make things happen and more and more of these superlatives around Xavier Leggat. Yeah, the crazy thing is so Xavier Leggat was a guy, I mean, I fell in love with his tape. I told people in the rookie draft season, his profile was one that you want to bet against for sure. I'm betting on him.
Don't follow me. But I believe in him. I believe in Deontay Johnson as a really good NFL wide receiver. It's going to get open, it's going to catch the ball really good.
I believe in Kanellis. I think he's a good offensive mind. He's done good things the last several years with different quarterbacks. And I don't believe in Bryce Young.
So it's like those, they can't all, something is going to give. And so I just, I don't want to find out which one it is. Is that, is that your way of saying like if Deontay Johnson and Kanellis and Leggat have success then by extension you're wrong about Bryce Young. Exactly correct.
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Can you find that for me? Well the weekend was busy two, a ton by low, a four year $212 million contract extension. The Packers signed Jordan Love to a four year $220 million extension. Jordan Love is now the highest paid quarterback in the history of the NFL.
That's insane. He's had one season, which was a great season. Maybe he proved everything that you needed to see obviously he did to the Packers. But that is also, that's a tough pill to swallow to go from, you've been a backup, you weren't ready, we're going to give you a contract that's like a try and prove it, you proved it.
Not just, okay we're going to extend you, we're going to give you a good contract, but we're going to make you the highest paid quarterback of all time. Why you guys might be surprised but I obviously always want to. Obviously. This was going to happen.
If you look back at my tweets, blur your eyes a little bit. That's what you see. Yeah, it's incredible confidence. Now both of these four year $212 for two, a four year $220 for Jordan Love.
You know, it's a lot's made because Jordan Love is the highest ever and but two was right there with them. Same with the Trevor Lawrence contract that he just got. Which one is the best one is the worst? The deals?
Yeah, four of the franchises. I would do not have done. If I had to choose one, it was to is deal. I would rather done Jordan Love's deal.
Yeah. I mean because you, you're locking up a player that I think showed enough as fast as you can and every, every latest deal will be the highest deal ever forever. That's one of my least favorite lines in all of this. In fact, I heard Patrick Mahomes talking about these deals because of course the media goes straight to him and says your average value per year now is X and these guys are at X and his response just it's why he's a three time champion.
He's just like, I'm doing great for my family. You know, I'm not concerned about the average annual price. I signed a good deal and I signed it. It lets me put good players around me.
Yeah. It was just so incredible. But every new deal, remember when Joe Flack was the highest paid quarterback in the history football? I mean, this will happen over and over again.
It's not the deal numbers, the headlines today. It's whether you did what you're supposed to do. Do you want to be in the DAP Prescott range where you just have this hanging over your team every time there's a deal about to be made or you just want to do the right thing like they did with Jordan Love. Lock them up.
You know your next four years and beyond and move forward. I agree. I mean, I think the way that you signed to a long term deal is going to have a monstrous contract. It's always going to be up near the top whenever they sign.
But I guess my question is too. The two of the two of the two of the two of the two of the other is to a quarterback that you want to be tied to for the next half a decade. It is not very different than paying Trevor Lords. Do I think to all of us feels like he's benefited tremendously from like me Daniel and the system.
Sure. But what else is he supposed to do? So he earned it in the context of doing what you're supposed to do on that team when you're supposed to do any other concussion history, those things are going to linger. But I mean, he should be great for the next few years.
What are you going to do? You either have a guy who can win games for you or you're just stuck forever and ever being a great car. Yeah, you have their car. You have maybe Daniel Jones.
I mean, there's just it's. Did you see there was $1.2 million worth of quarterback contracts given out $1.2 billion. Sorry $1.2 billion worth of contract given out. This offseason to quarterbacks that have zero rings combined.
You are paying to play the game. What else are you going to do? Well, when you've got my homes kind of hoarding them rings, it's tough for other people to have them. Staffer got a little extra money.
Yep. Finalize the new contract. Unlikely to be ready for the start of the season, Jerome Ford expected to be the lead back. That's the report we got.
Pierce Strong Jr. The backup part is that's interesting. Pierce Strong got way more playing time last year than anybody wanted to see happen. Right.
And then the other form into field short yardage rolls. There's you know, you can take that news. Anyway, one I've been more on the hesitant around Ford side because I'm afraid of losing short yardage, but I expected to be lead back. You can take that positively.
Yeah, I take it positively. I see Jerome Ford as a really good value to start the season losing that goal line job. That's fine. The same thing last year.
Was it like nine rushing? Was it the goal line back? So bringing in what I think is probably a downgrade from Kareem Han and Dion's foreman. And Ford has another year in the system.
He's the veteran. He proved himself last year. So I do think that this is positive news for Jerome Ford. This is not a guy you're going to draft.
Who's going to go out there and give you top five weeks? He's not going to go out there and dominate. But he is a guy that's going to go out there and give you top 24 weeks almost every week until maybe until Chubb is fully back and healthy and integrated. And you have the timeline of Nick Chubb.
Okay, he's actually back. How long until Nick Chubb is back to being the starter? Who's getting like the bulk of the work? That's a whole extended period of time.
He saw with John and Taylor last year, right? The Taylor comes back and they don't just go straight to it. Zach might still have a couple of weeks where he was more than. This was tougher for me.
Okay. And it's not because any of the things you're saying are incorrect. It's because of the nature of building a team. And so if I'm going to build a team where I probably have drafted my starting running backs already and I get drum for it and drum for its expiration date is coming when I'm not starting him.
It makes him a tough pick for me. That's my hesitation around Jerome for it. Is that makes sense? That is well said and it's accurate.
That drum for is like a zero RB darling. It's one of those builds where you're 41 right now. If you are punting running back to start your draft and you're wanting to go a little bit more, you know, anti fragile wide receivers, maybe go out and down to position. That is round 11.
Yeah. So like you're shot on somebody else. There's not a no on high upside. It's very, very poor.
And on top of that, look, unfortunately, we know that in rounds one through five, there's going to be a lot of players that just doesn't work. Guys get hurt. Guys get hurt. Guys aren't what you hope that they would become.
And like to me, even with the exploration that will certainly happen to Jerome Ford, it's what if the running back I took in round four doesn't work out and also now Jerome Ford is my RB two and he was free. All right. I want to talk about quite a bit of the news still. So we'll take a quick break and come back with some new some chargers.
All right. Turning towards the Chargers training camp discussion, JK Dobbins been full participant in training camp. Now, did you see the calf the picture of JK one leg in the most literal sense like the calf of one of his legs is not as developed. Yeah.
I'm going to guess that's the leg with the Achilles problem. You're wrong. Yeah. I mean, one photograph I'm not going to go crazy about.
Obviously he's out there playing practicing. This is good news for JK Dobbins. I'm not going to overreact to the photograph. And besides he has had successful times.
He's had success times on the field where he's been JK one leg. Right. Yeah. I mean, he's still recovering from the Achilles.
So it's you fully out. Like you're betting out. I am betting. Yes.
My bet is out on dog. Yeah, it's not it's not that Dobbins can't come back. It's like Dobbins to me can come back and be the on the foreman for a team. Right.
You're not going to you didn't sign and probably to take over everything. No, because those days were gone. Like he is definitely he is the presumed number two running back behind us Edwards. But the contract is in such a way that we get into August this team sees what JK is and evaluate the running back the room and be like, this isn't going to work.
And we have to go like they cut him and they go pick up the album cook or something. Yeah, I'll talk about players you want to see on a preseason field. Right. I would love to see this.
I reserve the right to change my opinion. If that cat gets bigger. Bad news for you two gentlemen from the 90s. Jared Patterson running ahead of six round rookie Kamani Vidal.
You addressing properly. Thank you. Sorry. Kamani Vidal says thank you, which earlier he mentioned.
Oddrick estimate, Laughter. Yes. And then we do have Ad and I Paul Mitchell. That's right.
And of course, the rules a little bit. And then what was the last one that I heard? Drake Maybelline. So we do have the full allotment and I have to explain this because I'm pretty sure that earlier in the show, if you're under 35 years old, you thought that we mispronounced the last name of Audrey Gestimate when in fact we were making a really creative and deft 1995 solid long joke.
Yeah. I mean, it was a professional joke here. Yeah. I'm happy that you got to explain it.
You always want to explain. Yes. You need to. Sometimes.
Thanks for tuning in. I will say this. First of all, Kamani Vidal says soon as a round six pick. You have to bet against these late day three guys.
I know that the draft season comes around and everyone gets all excited, but just historically like they don't work. They just they do work sometimes. An undrafted guy becomes Austin Echler, but the majority and I'm talking like 90% of the time it doesn't work. So, but on the flip side, Jared Patterson, that's a name from the past that I was like, but he was he in the NFL last year.
You are remembering Jared Patterson from your fantasy football championship game two years ago. Washington football team, I believe. Same team he was still on last year. We had 17 total attempts.
Okay. But but yeah, right now the Goss boss, JK one leg, the end. So I can tell you it's a last year, Jay of the of the top 10. Let's see.
We have five first rounders, four second rounders, one third rounder, and then there was one fifth and one hundred after the top 10. I mean, it's just like the numbers are so against anybody actually doing anything. And McConkie, Josh Palmer, DJ shark, those players have comprised three wide receiver sets in two minute drill and wait, read that again. Land McConkie.
We're talking about the charges, right? Josh Palmer and DJ shark. Wait, don't they have a first round wide receiver? Have comprised three wide receiver sets in two minute drill and move the ball periods in the first two days of Chargers game.
I feel like you're forgetting someone. I don't think we are. Oh, Quentin Johnston, who has been left out of that. Harbaugh did talk him up saying he's been wonderful and gets a bad rap and then the video feels like a lie for sure.
And then a video comes out of it. What else are you supposed to say? Just dropping a warm up over the shoulder to track the ball thing. You know, do you want to keep it?
He didn't drop it. I touched his hands. Land McConkie. Josh Palmer, DJ shark.
Who do you want to take the chance on? I mean, I've said it all off season. Land McConkie is a player I believe in. Ironically, when you talk about the late breakout ages, when Xavier LeGett earlier, he had a late one.
Land McConkie technically didn't have one. He didn't get there. But when you watch the film, the dude balls, he is absolutely outstanding. He has a great slot receiver.
He will have space. He will be where Justin Herbert wants him to be. And I think he'll be the number one wide receiver for this team. So that's where I'm taking my time.
Correction on Jared Patterson, that was 2022 when he had 16 carries. Yeah, that's when I was wondering like last year. So 17 carries between the last two years. Was he in a fella guy?
No, he didn't play. I hadn't heard his name in forever. I'm back to squad. When I saw this, I was like, wait, he's back to this practice squad.
And look, the reports that I have at least heard on Jared Patterson are far more of a he could he'll be back on the charges practice squad. Chase Brown. Chase Brown continues to take. This one is this one.
Yeah, this one has changed my rankings. Angels running back. Chase Brown continues to take the majority of reps at running back with the first team offensive training camp the day before the director of player personnel, Duke Tobin told reporters that he was around would have the opportunity to be the guy or the second guy or in tandem with Zach Moss. But the fact that this is an open competition with opportunities to be the guy is one of the reasons why there's this like, I think we all wanted to like Zach Moss all off season, but might kept saying the same thing, which is like, when you stack up all of the historical data on players like Zach Moss, it almost never works out like this where you just get a clean run at a starting opportunity, even though we had the success last year.
Now it looks like it's a really open competition. There's obviously some loyalty to Chase Brown having an opportunity there that they feel good about. And thoughts. I'm not very active to this.
It did change my rankings as well. Mike, I moved them closer because originally I thought Zach Moss was giving the money. He was brought in. He's a perfect fit for the system.
He's a veteran. And so I certainly had him as the well ahead of the time share role. I've moved them closer to each other, but I would caution people to not overreact yet. It is so early in training camp.
If you want to give all these guys an opportunity to be the guy or the second guy or in tandem, then a reporter come out next week saying, now Zach Moss is taking all the first team reps. You know, they're giving these guys opportunities. So just this is the first major beat of a drum that you want to have. You want to pay attention to it.
Does it continue? That's great news for Chase Brown. When there's actual real life defenders blitzing off the edge, we'll see if it's Chase Brown or Zach Moss. All right.
And then the Eagles offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore, on his plans to move a J-Branon and to do a Smith round set. I think those guys going to move around the game throughout the game, throughout each and every week. We know that the offense is changing in a dramatic fashion in Philadelphia. My biggest curiosity has been like you have a lot of enthusiasm around motion, which the Eagles didn't run much of over the last few years, which was a strange thing for them to do.
Right? We all have a great reverence for Shane Steichen and his innovation in Indianapolis. He was also the offensive coordinator for this team two years ago. They didn't move a lot.
Now they're going to move guys around a lot. I'm curious what's going to give. Is it going to be fewer option runs? RPOs.
Yeah, RPOs for Jalen Hurtsby. He's not in the shotgun as often. Is it going to be that goal line? We don't have Kelsey.
So we don't get the push push. Like I don't expect every single player on the entire Philadelphia Eagles office to have an upshot just because of change. So I'm really just curious broadly who benefits, who suffers under a transition this dramatic. Yeah.
So when you're looking at that, and I think everything you said there was well laid out. It's not necessarily great for everyone. What I want to do, what I want to bet on is talent. I go, okay, this system is going to change.
Who's going to succeed? We do know that motion and these pre-snap movements, things like that, they put players in better positions to succeed. It makes things a little bit easier for the passing. So when I look at AJ Brown and Devontay Smith specifically, those two wide receivers are awesome.
They are human beings that are great wide receivers. AJ Brown is fortunately for him. You're on athletic tank. A tank, unfortunately for Devontay Smith.
He is not, which is why he's the clear number two here. But if you just talk about wide receiver talent, there's no question that these guys are elite, awesome, world-class wide receivers. So if you would put them in positions that open things up for them to be a little bit easier, maybe catch the ball in stride, maybe create more space, I'm betting on both of those players specifically. I don't think it goes to the entire offense.
I'm not betting on Dallas Goddard. I'm not just across the board saying I've got to get every eagle I can. But I think it will be a significant year for both AJ Brown and Devontay Smith. It will be a big adjustment too for Jalen Hurts, who struggled with the passing game over the back after the year last year.
That'll be something to watch too, adjusting to a new offense is not always smooth or maybe it takes some time. Does it start worse than it finishes? You know, those are questions. I feel like he has had a new offensive coordinator for about 20 years.
Back to college, every year was transferring schools that he gets here and then failure causes a change. Then success causes a change. It's like every year he's got a new system. I don't know what will happen if he has two years of the same system.
Yeah, I mean, they were obviously a really good offense until the end of the year. The second half of last year, I don't know if it was just teams figured out the very vanilla offense or some was broken in actual play and talent. But I lean more of the latter. Ricky Pierce saw us back from the active in a fight list.
Rookie first round wide receiver for the 49ers. And do we have any of the lock ins or the lock ins? The whole thing's still happening, Mike. We saw no Jamar Chase last week hurt practicing.
We have no CDLAM. We have no Brandon Ayuk. What's with the Cowboys? Oh, that is a look.
I mean, there was a clip that kind of went viral there about Jerry Jones talking about how he's going to time up the market perfectly and comparing it to a read option of you got to wait until the very last second sometimes to know if the timing is perfect. And the timing is not perfect. It is in fact terrible for them. They have botched this with every, especially like those two quarterback contracts.
You tell me DAC index representation is not like, that's nice. Yeah, this is not better for the Cowboys. That's not you. Don't love just getting money.
They get paid every two weeks. So these checks are just smaller leading up to the. So it's so weird. Here's a cool stat for all the Cowboys faithful, the Cowboys fans to just get excited about this upcoming season right now.
They're free agent guaranteed money. They've spent this off season. It's nine million dollars. So that's all they've that's all they've built out.
That's pretty powerful off season. They need to pay probably a little bit more than that to lock up CD lamb and Mike Parsons and deck press. Yeah. And Traleons looks terrible and camp.
So no, he's not going to work. He's not going to work. He's running as the third string. That's all video.
For now. I saw video guys. And look, you should have seen those plays and then like walked off the field and handed a contract to deck. Yeah.
Also, it reminds Traleance reminds me of like, what was that quote that you saw from. Oh, how well? Oh, in that one. That was fantastic.
There was a report from the Seattle Seahawks that somehow is three days into an almost alarmingly inaccurate. I mean, like you crossed the line from inaccurate to alarmingly inaccurate almost almost alarmingly inaccurate. We're not there yet. A couple more days that work will be alarmed almost alarmingly inaccurate.
These three reporters, please give us stuff like that. Like, if we're going to show you how to make it entertaining, it is that is killer alliteration. Excellent work up there. Yeah.
I'm going to figure this out because we would like to see, we'd like to see those players under contract. Yes, we would. Mike still has zero of his three dynasty wide receiver because you won't trade them to me. I mean, I'll do this for you.
Don't get paid guys. They're going to get paid. All right. We have a ton of great questions to answer as we get ready for 2024.
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We are here to help. Click the submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline 302464TFFB. I got a question before we kick it off. My own question.
Where is the third? Where is the third? Do some? Yes.
Where is? Where is math? Oh, no. Where is the Falcon?
You did it. You brought it up on the show. Where is the third guy? I don't know.
I see an empty chair. No, let me count. That man is a family. Al Borland, say something.
I'm here. All right. And then we've got Papa Josh. No.
Papa Josh. He's not there. He's missing. I'm not hearing anything.
Well, my understanding is that he had lunch and coffee. And it was possible. Oh, no. It was possible.
He was brewing a little something. I just haven't seen him in a while. And I was just kind of... We have a note in our chat that he said I hit both bathrooms out of spights.
So he's just desecrating the building right now. The Falcon is fully... He's questionable to return. Yeah, I mean...
We've got three bathrooms, Falcon. You've got some work still to do. Oh, my gosh. Okay.
Question and answer. So, I'll take a quick question. Here's one from Ryan. $8.
I had a quick question on draft preparation in a keeper league. How do you any tips or tricks to repair when the typical ADP doesn't apply? Thanks. So I'll lay some groundwork for the answer.
This is a keeper question when they're talking about what ADP does doesn't apply. Just draft tips when the ADP doesn't apply to your league, which ADP has average draft position. When we refer to it on the show, sometimes we might be referring to sleepers, ADP, which is the average players are going in a mock draft on sleeper, on Yahoo, on ESPN. Sometimes you refer to underdog, which is best ball and their ADP.
All different platforms have different ADPs. They are always changing. I do worry sometimes, I'll be honest, that because it's the common way we compare value, that it can seem so universal that it's always going to apply to your league. This question is so smart by Ryan to say, look, I'm not going to bank that everybody in my league has the exact same viewpoint on every player.
What are some draft tips when there is variance? I think the one that we see a lot of is if you draft at a hometown, hometown players might go in a different place than they do on the ESPN ADP, for example. Well, and I think if you even take our legal record, and I would recommend this for all leagues out there that are serious. If you're at your office league and you have to have people that don't know what they're doing, whatever, make sure ADP is on to help them to not just destroy themselves and make it an easy victory.
But like in our league, we don't have the ADP sorted when you're drafting. You come in with your list. There is no ADP. I think he's probably talking to a league that there is no predetermined next guy up in the queue in my league.
I know you can do that on the sleeper platform where you just turn off at its alphabetical. And so average draft position at that point will still be a guide of where most people in the world are seeing them. But it will be much, much looser because there is something that happens when the ADP is on, where people are just like, I got to choose from one of these three guys at the top. Don't be that person.
But as far as tips, when that doesn't apply, first of all, you have to come in with your own rankings. You have to come in, you know, we've got, we've got the tiered rankings in a draft kit. Cheat Sheet Creator. Yeah, we've got the cheat sheet creator.
So you can make your notes, you can start your players, you can move them around, but you have to come in prepared with some idea of the order of players you like and you want to to a draft without you. I mean, our league record does not use an ADP. That's what I was saying. Yeah.
Just like you said. Just like you said. Just like you said. Totally heard it.
So nicely said it twice. But because of that, everybody else is coming with their own plan and there's a level up in terms of my plan versus your plan versus Mike's plan and where we think players are going to pull the trigger and how long you think you can wait and it's a guy. I would say that the it's always important. Like our record does not have an ADP.
What? We don't. Oh my goodness. Breaking news.
That's crazy. I will say this. The drafting by tears, which we explained on a recent episode is always important. But if you are without ADP, I mean, that is the way to win a league is to make sure that you've got your players bucketed together where it's like because you can end up without ADP gaining extreme value later.
If you pay attention to guys that are in the same tier of quality. Do you have anything to add there, Mike? I do not. Preferably hand out ADP sheets to your league mates and tell them to believe them and make them.
I've never gone with that one. But I work. Yeah, you could just print out a bad one and leave it on the ground somewhere. Backwards ADP.
Whoa. All right. I think they figured it out eventually. I think they figured it out right off the bat.
Denver B91 on Instagram writes in it says, Bijon 101 and then like a thousand exclamation or question marks. Yes, you can take Bijon 101. Yes, you can. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, you know, I've said this a handful of times. If everybody back plays something games, I think Bijon's the only guy that could outscore Christian McCaffrey this season. I think I put a reason to that bucket too.
But it'd be better to take Bijon 102 or 103 if you can make a trade. Sure. If you can trade if that's successful to you. And it's I think that the larger question to me of this is just we all have Christian McCaffrey number one.
Do we still have McCaffrey number one? I do. It's look, if you have convictions and you have a process that has led you to believe that I think Bijon, I have a higher probability of Bijon finishing as a number one player overall over Christian McCaffrey and you have the 101. It's the only place you can get him because if you have the 101, you will not get Bijon Robinson in anything.
It could be a linear draft. It could be a snake draft. You won't get him with your second pick. If your process is I like Bijon more than the other guys, it's not egregious.
Be bold. Take him up front. The decision you make there simply comes with the fact you need to live with the results, right? Because if you take CMC where you're supposed to, that 101, and he doesn't work out at least you're supposed to do.
I'm just saying psychologically, if you take Bijon 101 and Christian McCaffrey laps the field again, you will feel bad. But that doesn't mean it's the wrong decision because it's very rare for players to repeat. I mean, whether by injury or circumstance or you could have a better season from CMC, a Bijon could be better over the last eight games, so he's better for fantasy playoffs. That's an outcome people don't consider very often.
You just look at that. Oh, cool. I've got the number two running back, but he was number one over the last five weeks. I would also throw this out there to anyone that is considering the Bijon over.
I would take Christian McCaffrey, that would be what I do. But if these guys that you take in the first are epic failures, it is because of injury. That's what's going to happen. Your failures are because of injury.
You can't predict that, but there are certain markers, certain things. It's an age is a big one. So if you say, well, hey, I would rather have the 215 pound, 22 year old, who is close enough rather than the 28 year old who's 209 pounds. Okay, that's a fair tiebreaker.
Yeah. Yeah. Just trying. No, I mean, you're trying.
I mean, you said, you could have like a normal failure. You could have a normal failure. No, you could have a normal failure. Like Bijon could just be okay.
Bijon could be the RB seven. Bijon could be the RB 11. Okay. Like those things could happen without injury.
Yeah. Just because we haven't had the pet, we haven't had the years of Christian McCaffrey laughing the field for Bijon. Yeah, we have to tell you what we should be covering going number one. Because how Christian McCaffrey finishes the running back seven is he missed several games?
Yeah, you got it. That is, you got it. There is no world where he plays a full season and finishes RB seven. There's a world where Bijon plays the whole season finishes our B seven.
There you go. Makes sense. All right, Mike, this question is from Instagram, Joe Mixon or Mike Evans in a full PPR Keeper League. Would take Mike Evans, the I have my biggest question for Joe Mixon is related to past catching and we've seen quarterbacks change their playstyle once they have a player at the running back position who actually is really good at catching passes.
easiest one to talk is Cam Newton never checked it down. Then he got Christian McCaffrey and Chris McCaffrey's catching 70 plus passes a year in Carolina. So, but last year, CJ Stroud was just, he didn't throw to the running back position as chicken or egg. But then on top of that, you that very fair question is they've also had us the fond digs into this offense.
So it's you have three great pass catching wide receivers. Is Joe Nixon going to see a huge uptick in reception? So you're Evans Jason. Are you Evans?