Do the same on the risk. I'm your host Marcus and today we got on Drew Long. We talked about his paper on space. What do you mean by space?
The universe. Star, Scallops, which is very interesting and how he went about learning about it. And if you're like interested in it, this would I think be a definitely a helpful resource because this is kind of like where he was like I want like more in-depth and like how he learned how you can like learn about it and still understand it without really like having a big background in like astrophysicists or something like that. And it's very interesting and we talk about how he went at school and a little school advice for him in which is and then we talk about browser and speech and the three chrisons and it's a lot of fun.
I hope you get that. Where do you post it normally? My host is cast box but it's distributed on iTunes and Spotify and currently also. Well it's on Castbox but that's that's the anyways it's just the person who like puts it onto others is where I help.
It's not that complicated. That's where I put it. If you're wondering it and then if you're like what so. That's fair.
Yeah. Anyways we have Dremong man. I'm sure I'm over. So what where did you like write this for like what like class?
So I wrote this for my college English class which is I graduated half so much early. I took English and math there just kind of like feel out everything and see if I actually like going to Metro because I got a bit of Metroed at that. Oh wow. And I like it in a season but I wrote it for my English class.
It was just kind of a paper where you were more just taking something that you liked to talk about and turning it into a paper because he likes reading about like interesting stuff so I thought space was pretty interesting. So sweet. You wrote it on that. Nice.
Just a good day. Not. I think I already went though. I think I got a little b honestly.
So do you like kind of like the college? Like kind of how college is compared to like high school? Yeah it's a lot different because Metro all the classes are like spread out so you like you can use on campus basically. So I take the bus downtown and I take a library home to my campus and I walk to each of my buildings which are like classrooms and then they're all in separate buildings.
Nice. There's a lot of walking. That's good though. Not too hard.
A lot of people make a pretty big deal on college and that's good. I only have a 10 credit. I guess that's quite a bit. That's had I mean a lot of classes.
I mean the ones I signed up there like they don't even reach a full credit so that's has to be. Oh no so for at that start to graduate you needed 120 credits. So like a little under 10% of the way there. Oh wow.
Okay. Yeah so each class is usually work three to four credits. Oh wow. That's awesome.
Okay cool. That's sick. Yeah Johnny um he's done a lot more so I'm sure. So it's that's cool.
Okay. What's here and then it's about space. It's about space. All right connecting the reader with space does it's just a super complex topic so I have to get into it.
So learning about space is difficult as trying to learn this as trying to learn a new place. The complexity of the subject alongside the author black and with the readers sapped upon each other to make learning about a more difficult thing to speak. However this hasn't stopped me from wanting to learn more about things. We all have similar questions as to why we're here and space has the like answers to the questions.
After physicists and the astronomers ran into a problem in writing or with their writings I decided like attracting more and more people because we're all asking that question and like people are going towards the internet more and more and you can just connect with people a lot easier now day and then there's far and few people that can actually understand those readings from those like high end astrophysicists and stuff like that. The question to the solution was simple and theory for like making the readings easier to comprehend and stuff like that and it was basically just how do you take a subject that is advanced and scaled down so that ordinary people can just read about it. That's people more like me. I've always considered myself to be someone a believing person and I only like to get one done what needs to be done.
However at some point in time when I was being laid the onset to turn my lateness into productivity by learning about the universe. It's the biggest change in my mindset that has ever happened when I put it like that but I guess I've really always wanted to do something more than just chill out at home. I have a few memories for my childhood but the one that has stuck with me through the years is when I first wanted to count to infinity and my sister being five years older told me that it just couldn't be done and just like how she told me I could get it over two even two seconds. So as I usually as usual I called her a bitch and went on this mission to count to infinity and it didn't end up going so well I figured out soon enough that my sister was right and I was pretty angry at the time but what I didn't realize was at the time I had my first encounter with wanting to know more about than possible.
As I grew up I watched hundreds of documentaries that's probably a little bit of an exhibition. Probably. About space I'm beginning to learn about exactly what about there. However I ran into a big problem when I tried reading about space instead of just watching documenting.
I began reading articles I was published on suggested boxes for like Google and stuff like that and then those articles that should have been like well written and on the way that are written for like the mass amount of people would be like articles I'd be able to understand and this was kind of a mistake for me as the people who were writing these articles weren't people who had like majors in astrophysics or astronomy but they just kind of journaled us and they were trying to quick buck it up but they just talked at that time. And then one of these articles was written. One of these articles I was written to make a quick book was Pre-historic cave art suggests ancient views of complex astronomy. At the time I read this article I was learning about the origin of people writing and studying about space.
I wanted to know why and how these people were coming up with these theories about space in this article. I figured it would be kind of a good way to start. Then the article was pretty cut and dry though and it just linked the part listed simple facts and it gave the reader no incentive to really continue reading the article. The facts at the office they did have no background information and it was nothing to worry about what was happening.
Learning on your own can be pretty difficult because you have to come up with all the questions. You need to use the readings to come up with the questions too and that this article just didn't do with me. I figured that the author probably should explain what the finding means for our background in space and not how it's just a recent occurrence that everyone's just now deciding to get into wondering about our past and what's out there in the image. Yeah.
This is actually the thought of what's out there in the universe is pretty much the beginning of the scene and the racing stuff. There's a lot of evidence that I sky and what's happening. Interesting. That's a good question.
This is kind of a thought that all relates to each other and no matter what if you live like 40,000 years ago versus today you still like the I guess today you have a better understanding of space and time but you still have pretty similar questions. Then instead of the article starting off by saying any studies says that's some of the world's oldest cave paintings were revealed at ancient people at relatively advanced knowledge after your thou's just too cut and dry and then the article probably should have started off by saying new analysis of cave paintings made 40,000 years ago in New York, ancient nations show not only advanced thinking and ancient civilizations but also gives insight to the curiosity of that and share with this ancient civilization when we look up into the next step. The emotion and passion behind the sentence doesn't really scream out what cream out this was just another thing that my boss to link to right in my nine-aside job so they weren't really passionate about what they're writing. They're just more like I said before and just trying to make that quick thought.
Yeah and then this is the facts. Yeah this is what they want. And then my sentence that I think that they should have had in there I feel like incorporates details from later in the article which would have left the flow of the article off so the article would have needed to change the little I think it would have ended up being better in like some people's minds to figure out like more questions about space and like what they want to learn. Yeah and then becoming more knowledgeable with the field of space has allowed me to be in recognizing what article is and what's to read and once a lot of articles are found in suggested areas like Google or other websites they tend to be articles that are pretty tough like the one I read and they do little to for like actual background knowledge about the subject because the person who wrote it is just again trying to get as much money as possible with like a little bit of like a clickbait title that's like one of the first like the image of the black hole came out.
Okay. People just jumped on that train and there were so many articles written out of just by people that just went out. They just wanted money they don't really care about like all everything that went in behind it and all this stuff. That's why I've kind of downloaded the NASA app on my phone.
Okay so I read articles that are written by professionals that are published by NASA all the time. That's kind of like going on to Google and stuff like that. So then you know what's like actually real? Yeah.
Is the stuff that's part of my articles? Is it usually pretty accurate? It's pretty accurate. It's just, I'm sorry.
No you're just, it's just pretty cut and dry. It's just a simple fact instead of like everything you would need to know that. Yeah. Which for some people it works.
Yeah but if you would like to actually know what's going on fully it wouldn't actually help you like a ton. Yeah exactly. Okay. That's just every new source can say yeah we did after however many years we finally turned into the black hole.
Do you want to read like one of NASA ones you find like the statistics of how why it was so hard to take all this stuff and like how much money it actually costs. I think it costs a few million dollars. Not just a few like tens of millions of dollars today because they're the damn black hole. Wow.
But it's great. It's something that you're going to be able to see. So it's kind of cool to see it. That's awesome.
That's something that like running out much better than you've been wanting to do for a while. It's to be like okay actually like see it. Okay that's cool. Yeah.
Just simple stuff like that. I don't really know where I left off. Thank you. That's okay.
I do the same thing with the little knowledge about like the actual like how they just kind of write it. And then the books that are written by like astrophysicists or articles I guess are actually things that you want to read as they give you all the information you need while not making a month's policy for most people. For me it works. Some people I guess probably wouldn't be as interested as me just like reading through all that stuff but whatever.
Like it's fascinating. That's some people. I don't really care. I want to go eat.
That's interesting. Where's my TV chef? What is this? A little about my favorite astrophysicist.
His name is Neil deGrasse Tyson. He just kind of calls himself your personal astrophysicist. And he basically just believes that teaching more people should be done in a way that makes learning about space more is like a hobby rather than a task that you force yourself to do that day. And then the book that I'd recommend for people to go out and read is astrophysics for people to hear me by.
It's nice and it just basically lays out the fundamental parts of space and time. And what we currently know about each part of the subject and what we're trying to get to know more about. Like dark matter and dark energy and stuff like that. Which is pretty hard to explain.
He does a really good job of it though. Pretty simple. He also throws like a bunch of jokes in there and stuff like that so that you actually want to read it. Nice.
And then I just kind of go into how I feel like he makes learning more about hobby by doing those jokes and tapping into the mind of people and asking questions that tell you specifically what you should be thinking about and then going on your own way from there. And then those jokes and then a song trick that obviously does. Any book or anything written about space should probably have some pretty damped in fact. Just because it's incredible.
It's an infinite topic. That's awesome. So you would recommend so he lays down the fundamentals so then if you would go and you could actually understand if you wanted to actually know what something was talking about that would maybe be more advanced. That you can kind of understand it because you kind of have the basic knowledge from the meal.
Okay. You can go on your way from that. He does a decent job explaining everything but there's always more to learn about it. So you would recommend doing that and then you wouldn't recommend just going to the internet and searching how the topic if you're interested.
No, I'd probably go to a NASA website or something. Go ahead. Okay. It'll get you better and more after information.
If you does something with articles that can be published by anyone and that these publishing firms don't necessarily, there's not experts on it. Yeah. So it'd be different if they would consult with NASA physicists or something before they publish or they could make your old information work correct. But this is what I might have heard.
Okay. This is it. Just dot go websites and NASA websites are written by astronauts. So it should be doing that and that would help.
But this is what you're going to know. That's cool. That's awesome. So if someone's interested in this, I would go do that and you'll just grasp me and then NASA.
Then I'd go to just articles that I read and buy publishers just to make a quick book. And then I have a question because you went to legacy, right? Yeah. So kind of like a sub thing of this is kind of it's something of this podcast is like I want to help kids because I think there's so much more out there than just like a nine to five.
I think there's just so much that people can do even even in nine to five. I think there's way more nine to five than people think they are. So now I just want to kind of grow and also with like schooling because kids are always going to be successful. So you went to legacy.
So I was kind of curious if you have what piece of advice that you could give someone who's going to go to legacy since that was like your specific school. You think would help them. It's high school. It's about ways a lot.
More of like your junior year is where you get into like a bulk of where you learn everything. And it's kind of like a stressful time. But other than that, just like understanding how to deal with all that stress during junior year and then you'll be good. But other than that, I honestly, if I could go back and change anything, I probably wouldn't change anything.
But I'd be a little more open and like trying to meet more people during like freshman and sophomore year and then like senior year, I feel like I definitely got a little more open to meeting more people. And then down side of that is like I meet all these people and go, gosh, I really wish I knew you sort of like that. So I would have obviously school is very important. You should focus on getting the grades and things like that.
But there's also very good social aspect to it. So you should try and focus on that as well. Have as much fun as you can because I know everyone's I've lived as a cliche. But really once I am guilty of it, I wish I could do it again.
It's a bit junior year. It's trash. Yeah. It's super stressful.
Yeah, like I said, you know, the AP testing and all this stuff. So if you could, would any of them help you in junior year, like if you had like some advice, you're like, if that makes sense that you got afterwards, you're like, man, if I mean, it wouldn't have been like easier, but it would have been better. Um, maybe if that helps like specify kind of. I feel like, yeah, if you, I would have like made the session during my freshman year, I feel like I would have had more people like build on to get information off of.
I was usually friends with pretty nice, my people. I was just kind of friends with them. Yeah. If I were to be like better friends with them, I feel like I could have learned off them a little more doing that.
And then obviously just studying because I don't really ever study. I just kind of like flew through school. It wasn't too bad at all. But I see graphs, the concepts, the concept of the concept.
The calculus was something. It's just a different way of thinking, which is something that you have to get into other studies. It's not necessarily building off with algebra, but the first things my calculus teacher told me is after this last year, algebra is going to be words because it's just a totally different way of thinking. So the one piece of advice I did myself in junior year is to just not be afraid to think differently about subjects and not have like such this like linear progression and society.
It's almost like you're talking about how we're almost like trained to be in like a night by job and like nowadays you can do anything you want. So you just kind of have to train in mind to do so. Yeah. And you have to, and like you're saying what would really help is get connections with people who probably have a lot of information on that stuff and they could help you and you could be like, so how do you do this?
How do you go forward and like this specific subject and because you're so far ahead of it, like how do you do that? What's your advice? So yeah, I think that would be cool. And if you mind, this is one I asked, but since schooling is kind of planning for the future, at least that's what a lot of me were like, what are you going to do for the future?
What is your if you have one five year plan? So I'm a little stretch straight now that says I don't know if I want to do something with like space on like astrophysics and stuff. Or if I want to be like a financial planner, I know it's kind of pretty weird jump because people are like, oh, I'll do a business career like a finance and a piece of paper. Whatever.
You basically do the same thing. But as of now my five year plan, I'm going to be sticking to finance and kind of doing astrophysics on the side just because I feel like you saw how I told you that it costs like tens of millions of dollars to take that picture of the and then it was just out there for a few days and everybody thought, yeah, I don't want to if like I went into a field of astrophysics, I don't want my work for like doing years and years of work on a topic to be published and as people look at it for a day to day to day, I feel like that's too helpful. Whereas if I were to go into like finance and stuff like that, I feel like I could reach not as many people, but I could really focus on helping a few people out and also be very successful while doing that and like we're like one little bit of firm and stuff like that. Nice.
So right now I'm thinking about partnering with my dad to see the financial planner. He's getting kind of burnt out honestly, but if I could partner with him, I know I'd be very successful with like monetary value and stuff, but that there's a point to that where like right now I'm thinking of if financing like helping people with their finance or learning about the universe would be better for me just like long term and like being happy with it, but no, I guess when I put it like that everybody choose to be doing space and time, but it's a hard subject and I feel like I do very well in finance for the next 10, 15 years, then all the other people would ever want like like, yeah, and you can enjoy it. And then as you said, you're going to keep it as a hobby. You'll probably like you still want to like learn about it kind of because of the classes on that, but then you'll be taking like some classes still on, based on time.
So you'll still be getting information about it. So you'll learn more about it and whether or not like there's something there that you could like really get into. Yeah, exactly. I don't think I'll have a problem with just dropping everything.
If I find something like with the extra good experiment, I want to do this for the rest of my life. I don't think I'll have, I mean, there will be problems that come with it just dropping everything in my life and pursuing that. But usually when I pursue something, I pursue it pretty damn hard. It's awesome.
It usually turns out pretty well. And if I just spend a lot of time and stuff doing that, or 30s of my, I can't do it. No, yeah, because that's what other people did. They just spent time and then they figured it out.
That's awesome. And then I have this is a very serious question. Okay. All right.
If you had to fight one, which would it be? Rouser or Peach? Rouser or Peach from Mario? Yep.
Okay. Weapons, do I have? That's a real question. Okay.
Okay. So you're Friday to Mario. So let's say you have like the mushroom powers. So you can, you can be like, you can get real big, or you can get like real small.
And then you can also get really fast. I mean, there's so many different types of Mario. Like if you're going down to the Nintendo 64 Mario, which is my favorite, you would get, you would get like super punches and you could be like double backflips and stuff, which is fun. And then your biggest power is basically solving puzzles.
So I guess you'd have, oh, and you can be like, I guess you could have a shell because of, yeah, like a wuishi and they always throw shells. So you're, you got a shell. You got a shell. Right.
So Peach is just a princess. Yeah. Well, yeah. But she, I see is like also a warrior in some characters, but in that version she has to possess.
I feel, I feel like Peach would probably be easier to fight because I had all those skills. I'd probably want to fight out there just to see how bad I can mess with him. He'd be a little scary, but it's not necessarily about always choosing a easiest path. And I feel like if I were to fight Bowser and mess him up, that'd be pretty damn cool.
So, yes, there's fun. There's like monster destroyed him. I feel like that didn't mean a lot of not charisma, but just like self-confidence. What's gonna stop me in the world?
Yeah. Dude, I'd be grousy. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Okay. You went to the Olympics. See that big guy in the gym? You're a lot of muscle, but I'd be grousy.
At all, at all. Yeah. Okay. And then I got another one.
All right. Sure. For sure. All right.
Cool. Thank you. Of course. So this is kind of like a school question great school or high school.
Mary killed or had relations with. Chris Pratt, Chris Evans, Chris He's so fun. We're mad to try to swallow it. I know.
He's fat enough in games. Actually, he'd be terrible if you get a cuddle with him. Well, you can choose. You can choose fat Chris.
He's like a stick. I think I got a little more there. He has a hair too. So you can kind of like just see yourself.
He's like a stick. I don't know. I don't know. I'd have to marry Chris Pratt because he's such a cool guy.
It's a pain to do at Chris Evans, but they're all super good guys. Super good Chrises. Yes, that's true. I would definitely.
I agree with that assessment. I would probably marry Chris Pratt. He's so cool. He's so funny.
He's funny. It's funny. I like the movies. He goes for it and stuff.
And obviously he was talking to his awesome interviews. I know that's not necessarily how everybody's on camera. They're off camera. But I don't know.
As much as you can tell from someone in the public eye, and it seems like they're always being watched, he seems real. It seems very relaxed. I'm going, yeah. Generally.
Yeah. So you killed Chris Evans. I'm here, unfortunately. Yeah, that's all right.
I just like what we're a lot. That's where it's only happened in America. No, it's not. He's a very handsome man.
It's a god. Yeah. You can't put it in there. I can't put it in there.
I'm literally fine. We is a literal god. Thank you for being on. I don't think I have any more questions.
I have all my questions for you. I'm off the air. Mm. Behind the scenes.
Right. Get out of here. So this has been an episode with Drew. I think you've been on.
Of course not. Listen, and you're in a mask. One, two, three. Ugh.