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“DUALITY”

from TRUTH 2 POWER · host Tyris McKnight

In this episode I was joined by Snicks and we discussed DUALITY among Black Men. We Spoke Truth 2 Power!

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Hello. Hey, how you doing? Oh, man, I'm exhausted, man. I'm exhausted.

I've been man, I've been a New York and Vegas. Making room. They're trying to man. This came from political legend that we're going to talk about next week.

But you know what I want to talk about today? I want to talk about dualities. Do you know what dualities? Swings and people just dating.

For what I understand is, when people tell me what duality was, men have an ephemera side basically. Have some type of feminine balance. So I want to get your opinion on it because, in my opinion, men should be masculine at all times. So how do you feel about that?

I'm sad to say they do have men that are like that. And sometimes it depends on who they were raised by. You know, sometimes most of the time we have men that are just raised by single mothers. So they'll maybe just be around a lot of women all the time.

So they pick up those feminine traits, not so much of just being a feminine, but just have those traits of a woman. Maybe the way they handle these, maybe the way they handle their home, the way they look at certain things, it just kind of depends on who they were raised by. So do they just find a corporate relationship, a heterosexual relationship? It can be annoying.

I actually know someone who has dated someone that's like that. Okay, so in their relationship, she just felt like that everything she did wasn't woman enough in so many ways. Like this person was staying the mirror longer than her, you know, had to be dressed like a certain way and nothing could be out of place. Maybe compare her a lot to his mother and just had like maybe not the male tone of noise.

So it just kind of like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, go past that male tone of voice, male tone of voice. What do you mean by that? He didn't sound like a man. Oh wow.

She used to compare him to someone that's famous, they had a TV show and then I just couldn't unsee it after that. It's just, um, is the person had a TV show already moist? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, who do they compare to?

I'm curious. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

You'll have to see it and then you'll understand. He has a family and it's like, go him the wife and if I'm not mistaken, it's three kids and a grandchild. Oh, they do. Yeah.

He's kind of like that. Oh, my goodness. No. So, you know what I'm talking about?

Yeah. Yeah. So now it's always like their relationship with really in the business, that's what they should be able to be friends afterwards. They have kids together.

They end up exchanging games. They have kids together. Yeah. They have to figure it out.

So my question to you is, have you ever dated somebody like that? Yes, I have. I've been. It wasn't as bad as her situation.

It's just what certain things that was done. But it didn't work out. Apparently, I love, um, you know, aggressive type of man, for saying not just aggressive, but you know, I'm more manly man. It just didn't just didn't just didn't work out.

I don't want nobody to be longer than me. I don't want nobody that's going to tell me how to dress, why I want to do everything is, you know, want to be a housewife. So, you know, I told you something because, you know, one thing is, you know, I'm talking to people, you know, I'm talking to people, talking to most of my black females. And no other female racism was told me this, by the way, but I find it interesting coming from my women in particular.

But when they talk to me, they say, they say, oh, damn, like you're very masculine or you're very, very maley. Like, could you be acting kind of like, Tony down a little bit and tone a mess of anything down a little bit. I don't know if they're like, no, I don't know if they're like, man, it's like almost like, do I practice duality? And I was like, in a sense of, do I do like all this more shit, like, get my nails done and all this.

Is it your nail gun? Not masculine? I'm not saying it is not. I'm not saying that it is either.

Certain things, certain characteristics that women have, or certain things that women do, men should not be doing. I don't think that's one of them. You gotta come up with something else. Give me something else.

Talking about your nails done. Say, okay, I was just saying your nails done. Say, um, grooming. Yeah.

Grooming. Okay. That's a different kind of analogy. Oh, when you say get your nails done, I'm, I'm picturing a man just like, getting your nails done.

Like, polished and all that good stuff. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, all the way through the old crazy stuff. But also, just the way actual affection, me in particular, listen, I don't come from the most affectionate family.

So the way actual affection is kind of different than most people are comfortable with the traditional family. Wait, wait. Um, as far as like traditional family, go ahead. Yeah.

As far as like, um, I don't have dudes. Okay. I got to say why I don't have dudes. And people seem to have a problem with that.

They're like, oh, but if you're comfortable with your sexuality, if you're comfortable with your sexuality, then you should be able to hug another man. No, I'm comfortable with my sexuality. I just don't want to hug another man. I'm like, I'm thinking that's not me.

That's not me. That's not me. That's not me. I should be hugging another man.

Okay. So we have to describe this. Does you know men have this thing that like they dab off each other and like pull each other close and hit each other on the back like one time is that like an adobe for you? Oh, yeah.

I'm like, like if you try to pull me in for like a real hug, I'm like, I'm going to be a real boy in your chest. I'm going in your chest, huh? Hey, hold up. Is that a real hug?

That's not a real hug. That's like a pet on the back to me. Then just give me a pet on the back. I mean, I do all the good things.

Okay. Okay. Okay. So I'm saying, I've never heard anyone say that.

You know, like I'm just not doing that. Um, you don't hug your brothers. Your brothers don't hug you. That's even close though.

And I don't know much about you guys. I'm just saying like just in conversation the last time that you got to seem like very close. Yes. Yeah, we're very close.

However, you know, my brother knows that I love him very much. And he's like, um, I killed that girl. Since that. However, however, won't be no honey going on.

It's not really a little bit more like genuine like, embarrassment not per se a hug because a hug is to me is to hands and all that. I feel like you have an arm in the middle when you do that little dab thing. Okay. What was called?

But you had like more arms in the middle that holding you away from that person. What is that? I don't think that there's wrong with that. So do you hug your mind?

Like your, your female or your female? So okay. Hugger or are you a hand shaker with women? I'm a handshake.

I'm a handshake over dudes. I'm a hugger with women. Oh, okay. Because you know, some people just don't want don't want to invade the space at all.

No matter who me is. So you just don't want to do. I don't think that there's wrong with that. I don't think nothing is wrong with not wanting to hug anybody.

But I don't think it's nothing wrong with a man showing that type of affection. So another man relative like, you know, you just don't go around hugging everybody. But I don't. I don't.

Okay. So give me another example because, you know, like you said, you will raise by that. So, you know, that's just something that you're accustomed to. So what else are you not you oppose?

Okay. When you don't want your Chanel, you don't want to hug a man with else. And I just want to be aggressive and be assertive. Just in life in general.

Okay. I like to compete. So. So, but when people see that, they seem to have a problem with it.

They say I come out too strong. But I think it is. I suppose to come out weak, especially especially the Black male living in white supremacist society. So I always tell you, I would love to see this off the side of you.

So I do understand what people are saying, but you know, it's hard to bring something that you already accustomed to. But I think some of the things that you're stating that you just won't do, it doesn't make you not masculine. I don't like a genuine pet on the back, a little hug with the pet on the back. I don't think that's a problem.

So tell me, are you affectionate with the person that you're in a relationship with? So you're like a very affectionate person when it comes to your significant other, which is the she tell you that I'll do you a soon. You know what? I might have to assume that because you know, my way of giving affection is I got to do it on public.

Like I just, you know, I probably kiss them back because they're in public and they're so doing so. You know what I'm saying? So public affection is okay. So you do have a little bit of a soft aside.

Yes. A lot I know a lot of men that don't prefer to get to be groomed per se when it comes down to their hands and feet. But I know a lot of gentlemen that are masculine and that just prefer, you know, what sort of type of job that they have to just do that. So you know, kind of treat themselves and make sure you don't get too rough.

But I mean, I would not you say that it just doesn't compare to what I'm thinking. When you were you think of conversation, I was thinking like, allegedly like time to sleep. I like love him. Like I love him the day.

Like I just love his relationship with his kids and everything. But when I thought about like the feminine side, I thought about like that. Yeah, but you know, I think though, I think to some degree, maybe you could agree with me or disagree with me on this. But I think to some degree that black women expect for their men to behave like white men.

To a certain degree, I think they do. I think black women expect their men to behave like white men behave. No. No, I am in love like in love with the black man.

I do not have a vision for my man to act white. And I don't even understand sometimes when people say act white whether they actually need. But no, I am infactuated with a black man. So no, I don't need him to act white or be like a white man, which I don't even really know what that means.

Like. Well, let me say this. Okay, so let me say, when I say act white, right, I'm talking about from a cultural and just a historical standpoint, as far as masculinity goes. Because there is no man, there's more masculine than a black man.

If a black man going wrong with any other way to me, you could like as a black man, I'd have to tell you right now to energy just shifts. Like the energy just shifts, especially the female. But when I talk about the American white or black men behave like white men, white men are a little bit more, for a better word, dainty in my opinion. They're a little bit more.

Oh, hi. Like that type of thing. Okay, so I've never dated a white man. So I don't I can't compare, but I have.

Yeah, but you just gave it, but you just gave an example one though. Right? Oh, well, yeah. Okay.

But but from my experience, most of them that I encountered. Okay, well, that's different from me because everyone that I encountered hasn't been like that. This is the first person that's why I think he's just so extra to watch. But I don't have a comparison.

I can't really can't answer that, but I definitely know that I don't want my man to be nothing but masculine and the black man to give off that masculine to me. I don't want him to be no one else. But I do and I would love for them to not per se, but per se just be a little bit, you know, like comforting sometimes, you know, always have to be masculine. But if you're saying that you are and can't be like that with significant other than nothing else really matters.

Yeah. So, you know, at the end of the day, and I try to explain to people is this as a black man in America is totally different than there's been any other person in America because we're the perceived threat and we know we're the perceived threat with the honey. And it's like it's almost like you have to be you have to have this rough exterior and all the survive and a rough interior to me too. So you got to have that rough exterior and rough interior to survive and it's why it's a princess.

Okay, and I can agree with that. But it's a time to put the arm on. It's a time to take it off. When is the right time for a warrior to take his arm on?

He's comforted and when he's safe in his safe space. So what would you say? So what would you say that the black man is safe? Oh, yeah.

Oh, you don't feel like you have to have some type of safe space. Even if you feel like it's just not home. Everyone needs to feel this. I understand exactly what you're saying, but it's a time that you have to take it off.

You have to be able to take it off at some point. That's a hard job to be that everyday all day. They're exactly. That's why I'm trying to explain to people.

Oh, is that good? Oh, is that good? But you have to have something or someone that allows you to take that arm off. So when you allow yourself to do that, it becomes natural.

The black women have heard on all the time too. And then say, we know how to take it off with each other. Then we can learn how to connect. Now, it's like a black woman is on all.

When I said it like one of them, I mean, basically, we have to worry about our black men. Because like you're saying, their honey is always an issue of our black children. That's a constant worry or situation. Going in some of these jobs where you are the minority.

We have it on just in life, being a wife, being a mom, being a parent, just being a person, especially in the time that we live in. And also to have our black men's back when you need us. But it's hard to be that all the time. And it's crazy that you get flagged for a bag, it's flagged for a lot too.

Like when you're going to take it off, when I find the person that I am safe and comfort with, and I won't have any problem with taking it off, but I have not found anyone yet that worthy to allow in my safe space. It's already hard, period. So allow someone to invade your peace and put that in your armor at this point in life, it's unacceptable. So the final black woman for me, your opinion.

Oh, gosh. I mean, that's a book. We are the real warriors to be honest. But I know you do not agree with that.

Because we got to respond on that. You say you got to be a real warrior. Let me know what's going on. How you got to be a warrior?

We take a lot. We do a lot. Everything. Any aspect of life, we are the true warriors.

And I believe that God is a woman. I think that those comments on this guy, and I would say that because I understand when they want to be honest, we can do just as much as we can do and all of this. Basically, you just can't. Basically, men are stronger.

Okay. Okay. When there's time when it's time to fight a flight, men have a staying culture of sashwam. Well, and you spoke that, but men are supposed to go ahead.

Because some people just ain't got it. But men have a staying culture of sashwam that allows us to jump in right into action. Women, if you get into a fight with another woman, she can sit in the mouth. Most of the time, I think women are full.

All you talking about? Just physical? I'm talking about physical and in the aspects of life. Most of the time women will fall when you talk about adversity.

I'm facing adversity, true adversity. I'm sorry to feel like that. I am. Because to be honest with you, I've been saying this over and over and over before.

The men are not the same men that were back when your grandmother and your mother were in relationships in becoming married, starting families. They're not the same men. Women are becoming the new men. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I'm sorry. You're a two percent. You can have it. Whoa.

But the other night, the other night, the women are much stronger than the men. Don't you tell them about the design, though? Why would you say it like that? Because, you know, I really like it a really nice one book.

There's one book called Secret. Silent weapons for quiet war, right? And it's saying how they were going to try to make a name or a feminine name or feminine thinking. It's kind of deep just to continue to roll with their kind of just sort of kind of keep rolling because you know, for the most part, when we talk about shopping and retail and stuff like that, most of the customers are women.

It used to be. But now, since they don't criminalize everybody, I mean, like even when Mario Lopez made the statement about trans kids, which I agree with him, I agree with him all, that's not sexualizing kids. You know, people say, oh, it's wrong. It's like they got this agenda where they want us to start something up, blackening in particular.

Because when we talk about this whole yin and yang thing is just having balance, you as a man, you have to have masculinity to balance off your woman's femininity. Women can't have femininity and masculinity at the same time. That's going to turn into a dog. Okay.

I'm going to agree with that portion. And even on the flip side of it, men can't have femininity over writing masculinity because that's going to have a woman I would expect you anymore. Like why would a woman want to be with another woman unless she was a lesbian? True.

How would she want to be with somebody like her? Okay. So let's get back to the agenda. Do you feel like it's a agenda?

Because when we were coming up, your parents, well, let's see, your grandparents were together and they stayed together, right? They raised their kids together. It's not like that now. But why?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't say that I get to an agenda. Who puts this agenda out to make you not want to make things work within your family? One point to you like this, we talk about the Black family in particular, because this is a Black empowerment show.

We talk about the Black family structure, particularly, we talk about 1970s when it came on like Section 8. And during Section 8, near weren't allowed in the House. Right. Oh.

Now when we talk about having any type of agenda and women being able to have access to certain living standards that they wouldn't have otherwise, that they had a man in the House, anyone take a living sentence, they're going to have to reject a man out the House. And when we talk about Section 8, and people financially, and as far as financing go, the poorest people in the world are not just Americans or Black people and Black women, they won't take a visit today. And even if they did have the man come over, we all know how it goes when it's made. This is my house anyway.

You need to get it back in anyway. So I think that you kind of like just need this off on the women. But what happened to the men that didn't allow his woman to even move into a section 8 home? Because he has kids and he has responsibilities.

And that was just a no. Well, once again, let me talk. Let me go back to the whole agenda when we talk about in the 70s, right? But we got to a segregation and we weren't unable to secure jobs.

We give what I'm saying. Even though they had all the skills, they weren't able to secure jobs. And what they did was they allowed the women to work, which that's okay. I want to work, make it all money.

That's okay. But they allowed our women to become here to the household as far as finances go, instead of us. So who allowed? You get what I'm saying?

Who allowed that? Hey. Who allowed it? I'm going to say this.

I'm going to say this. I got to be honest with you. A black woman allows. And I'm going to tell you why.

I'm going to tell you why. Because during the feminist movement, black women, they left the civil rights struggle. They left the benefit of civil rights struggle to go join white women in a feminist movement. But they had to realize at that point in time that they're me.

They had a power to stop them from voting or to try to keep them down. Their feminist movement was a movement made for white females, not for black women. So when a black woman even tells me that she's a black feminist, I just stopped telling her all together because I'm like, yes, I do. Because I'm like, first of all, when you say black feminist and you're a black woman, to me, that means you're an enemy of black society.

And law is. Okay. I don't. Because feminism, because feminism can be a black feminist, that's not conducive to black power or black empowerment.

You really believe that? At all. At all. I don't believe that.

And wait, we got a back straight, because you say women allowed this to happen. Um, I was actually telling the story today about how my grandfather not per se controlled. Well, can I say controlled the house? My grandfather either controlled the house that he didn't live in.

So what I'm saying is, I don't think that the black woman made this happen. I think that the black man disappointed us and allowed this to happen. Yeah. And what, wait, when you're leaving a battlefield to go fight somebody else's war.

No. And what, okay. So you say they didn't pay out? They didn't have jobs.

Okay. Okay. Well, the woman decides to go and work, right? Well, we were they no more jobs ever?

No, I'm not saying I went to go and job. They were just more difficult for black men to secure jobs than any other person in America. Still is. I can agree.

And. Still. I'm gonna say moist. I'm gonna say moist.

Yeah, what? Yeah, get a black woman. I think they were. But no, I think.

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm so broke. I just say that I'm worried. It's just like, it's not, it's not it.

So I just, I think that in some way that the black men did disappoint. I understand that they did have struggles, but a lot of things they did allow to happen. And I understand they didn't have that many jobs, but there were jobs. There were jobs.

So I don't want to sit here and blame it just on the women. So I don't, I don't have to disagree with that. Let. No.

So I got a question for you. I got a question for you. So what part of the blame do the women do the women take? Re-resid it in the same type of person.

Get in the same type of man. Completely keep doing it. No, I'm saying, like what? What?

So what part of the blame do the women take? What percentage? I want to say like 45. But.

Can't even go to. I tell you, I do agree. When we talk about the whole, I don't even want to say such an, I want to say like a welfare state of money. You know, it was back in the day you couldn't have a man in the house.

You couldn't have a man, you couldn't even have a holster. You couldn't have a microwave. You couldn't have a lot of things. That's a little funny.

Yeah, it was a lot of things. Yeah, you were not able to have. I do think the program is a little more lenient now and it does give a little more access to things that you know, you know, they, you know, they wasn't able to have back in. But I don't want to say the first day of the section eight thing because I have a whole another issue with not section eight, the first day of the rental property.

So how much these people are paying? Well, you know, those are, so I, I feel like section eight is helping some people who really needed just to be able to live here because the investigation is happening and they are trying to do what's out. Yeah. And I was, um, and I really want to talk, I'm going to talk about that next week.

You guys do not want to miss next week's shows. When I singing from this political lunch. Black people, black people in New Orleans. And I'm telling y'all, I was the only black person, black man.

Oh, wow. And when I, when I say I was the only black man there. And I've seen another black man, but he wasn't really black. You know, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. What we talking about? You know, sometimes sometimes we got some African American males in black face. They really white.

They really white on me. Now when I say I was on the black male down and all this shit, these white people was spending me. I was on some shit like black people in New Orleans in particular in the red wall is every time it's time to take all the way. I'm going to put that as a matter of fact, let me put it some curse words in it so people understand it's time to take all the way to fuck up because we going to enter next week, next week.

I'm telling y'all. I would love to find out everything that happened, but I can definitely agree with just a little bit. I'm already seeing it. So I just knew we have more plans to be getting even harder.

Cause when I tell you, those probably takes a little jumping up from 1000 or 1000 by the Zany awful for me. I've already said two more years in sale, but this is going to be awful. Yeah. But we just shut the paradigm though.

We don't shut the paradigm. That's what the documentary is about. We're going to shut the paradigm. We're going to shut the paradigm.

We're going to shut the paradigm. Yeah. But, but snakes are thanks for joining me. I know this was kind of late, not the blue, but I've been very, I hope you understand.

I've been very tired. You're a working man. All over the place lately. Goddamn.

You're a working man. You're making, you're out there for us. So I appreciate it. You know, I just can't wait to see that.

You know, when you can relax and we see this off the side y'all know I keep preaching what I see. Sorry, it's off the side. I'm going to swing this to the world because it's there somewhere. Yeah.

So, so leave us with some positive. Well, today I would like to say Black women, have our Black men's back. I know sometimes they can be the hardest people to deal with sometimes. Be there because they have their are going to struggles that we know nothing about holding down, keeping them informed and just be a great backbone.

Okay. So now we'll be Black brothers have asked us back because they go to things that we don't know about and we suppose we protect them provided anyway. So let's type note. It's time to type not me.

I promise I will. That's part of it. But next we just we just spoke through the power. I want to go back.

Good night.

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