Due To My Role | Anna Delvey Has Moved On — The Internet Hasn’t | EP 007

What happens when the narrative is dead, and the press isn’t? In this episode of Due To My Role, Johnny Hilbrant (PE Guy) sits down with Anna Delvey for a conversation most interviews refuse to have—not about the past everyone already litigated, but about control, silence, and why refusing to perform remorse can actually be leverage. Anna breaks down what it’s like to exist as a public figure, people think they understand, while deliberately giving them nothing. Unpacking reputation versus reality, why most “journalism” is humiliation disguised as accountability, how editing power shapes narratives, and why flying under the radar is often the most strategic move in a click-driven economy. There’s PE Guy energy throughout—satirical, dismissive, and intentional—before Johnny takes over for a real conversation about identity, leverage, and what it actually means to outlive your scandal in this substantial interview with the one and only, Anna Delvey.This isn’t a redemption arc. It’s a case study in not needing one. Subscribe for substantial founders, comedians, and interesting people on the internet with decent stories and substantial exits.