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Duty to Disobey: The Veterans Who Refused and Paid the Price | S.O.S. #270

from S.O.S. (Stories of Service) - Ordinary people who do extraordinary work · host Theresa Carpenter

Let us know what you think of the show and what we can do better! Orders are supposed to be clear, lawful, and tied to mission. So what happens when a policy feels wrong in your gut, looks shaky in the paperwork, and gets enforced with threats, segregation, and career-ending consequences?I’m joined by Scott Lauderer, a retired Air Force reservist with 25 years of service across multiple branches, and former Army Sergeant First Class John Eugene Delarm, a combat veteran separated near retirement. We get specific about what they say unfolded during the military COVID-19 vaccine mandate: formations and “shot lines,” religious accommodation denials, repeated pressure from leadership, and the kind of retaliation that leaves troops feeling isolated and disposable. They also share why they believe protecting junior service members is part of the NCO and leader’s duty, even when the personal cost is brutal.John walks through the EUA argument in plain terms, including the Comirnaty vs Pfizer confusion and why 10 USC 1107a matters to the right to accept or refuse an Emergency Use Authorization product. From there, we zoom out to military accountability: what courts did and didn’t address, why many veterans still chase BCMR corrections and back pay, and why reinstatement offers can feel like a fix with strings attached. We also talk about the Declaration of Military Accountability, the Forgotten Soldiers podcast, and the documentary Duty to Disobey, premiering June 30, that centers the human stories behind the mandate era.If this conversation challenges you, share it with someone who thinks the debate is “over,” then subscribe, leave a review, and tell me: what should accountability actually look like now?Stories of Service presents guests’ stories and opinions in their own words, reflecting their personal experiences and perspectives. While shared respectfully and authentically, the podcast does not independently verify all statements. Views expressed are those of the guests and do not necessarily reflect the host, producers, government agencies, or podcast affiliates.Support the showVisit my website: https://thehello.llc/THERESACARPENTERRead my writings on my blog: https://www.theresatapestries.com/Listen to other episodes on my podcast: https://storiesofservice.buzzsprout.comWatch episodes of my podcast:https://www.youtube.com/c/TheresaCarpenter76

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Let us know what you think of the show and what we can do better! Orders are supposed to be clear, lawful, and tied to mission. So what happens when a policy feels wrong in your gut, looks shaky in the paperwork, and gets enforced with threats, segregation, and career-ending consequences? I’m joined by Scott Lauderer, a retired Air Force reservist with 25 years of service across multiple branches, and former Army Sergeant First Class John Eugene Delarm, a combat veteran separated near retir...

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