Dylan LeClair: Why Bitcoin Treasury Companies Sold Off and What Comes Next

In 2026, Bitcoin treasury stocks have taken a much bigger beating than Bitcoin itself. Dylan LeClair, Director of Bitcoin Strategy at Metaplanet, joins me from to explain why he thinks the bears got carried away. In this episode: Why treasury company stocks fell so much further than Bitcoin did His response to the criticism Parker Lewis brought to this show about perpetual preferred equitites What Metaplanet is building in Japan, where $7 trillion sits in cash earning nothing Whether he thinks Bitcoin has bottomed, from someone who swore off price calls Follow Dylan LeClair at https://x.com/DylanLeClair  ---- Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU  ---- Thank you to our Title Sponsor, Ledn: Borrow against your Bitcoin with Ledn, which has a perfect track record protecting over $11 billion in client value through every market cycle since 2018. And Tether Gold is now live on Ledn, giving you two of the most verifiably scarce, non-sovereign assets ever created, held side by side. Hard assets. Real flexibility. One platform. Get .25% off your first bitcoin-backed loan: https://www.Ledn.io/natalie ---- Bitdeer Technologies Group (NASDAQ: BTDR) powers AI and Bitcoin mining infrastructure with 3 GW of secured global energy — and owns the entire stack, from equipment manufacturing to data centers to proprietary orchestration software. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com. ---- Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie ---- Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners: Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie  and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction. Download Bitkey Today and use my promo code STORIES to get 10% off the new Bitkey. This episode has been sponsored by Bitkey: https://bitkey.world/STORIES Master Bitcoin self-custody and gain peace of mind with 1-on-1 training: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie?utm_source=partner-natalie&utm_medium=podcast With BitcoinIRA, you can invest in bitcoin 24/7 inside a tax-advantaged IRA. Choose a Traditional IRA to defer taxes, or a Roth IRA for tax-free withdrawals later. Take control of your future with BitcoinIRA: https://www.bitcoinira.com/natalie Kalshi is the largest prediction market in the world. Use code HODL to win up to $500 when you trade $25 http://kalshi.com/r/HODL Natalie's Upcoming Events: The best time to plan for Bitcoin 2027 is right now. Early bird tickets are live — grab the lowest pricing available and use code HODL for 10% off: https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2027?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=HODL  Extra Services to Consider: Protect yourself from SIM Swaps that can hack your accounts and steal your Bitcoin. Join America's most secure mobile service, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie   Ditch your fiat health insurance like I did four years ago! I pay less than $200 and my health care is covered. Join me at CrowdHealth: www.joincrowdhealth.com/natalie  ---- This podcast is for educational purposes and should not be construed as official investment advice. Ads in this episode are baked-in and may reference promotions or offers that are no longer available at the time of listening.