DZ-66: The Mandalorian and The Rise of Skywalker - Audience Knowledge vs Character Motivation

Listen to understand how fan service weaponizes external knowledge against character logic. By Order 66: Chas and Stu are joined by special guest - filmmaker Mel Killingsworth - to talk all things Star Wars. Well. Focusing on The Mandalorian and The Rise of Skywalker and wherever else our tangents take us. Our primary lens is look at how both shows handle "fan service" — but really its about how you handle character motivations when your audience has more knowledge than your characters, especially knowledge from outside the show itself. To that end, we discuss the characters of Poe, Rey, Kylo, and Palpatine in depth. We also discuss the Watchmen TV Show, Mindhunter, Jojo Rabbit, Snowtown and Zodiac. As always: SPOILERS ABOUND and all copyright material used under fair use for educational purposes. LIKE THIS EPISODE? Send us feedback. Thanks to our Patrons, especially Khrob, Theis, Sandra, Jesse, Randy, Paulo, Thomas, Jennifer, Malay, Alexandre and Lily. ——— CHAPTERS 00:00:00 – Introduction 00:04:28 – Poe's Backstory 00:11:38 – The Mandalorian 00:23:00 – The Rise of Skywalker 00:24:15 – Rey Palpatine 00:38:15 – Palpatine's Plan 00:46:22 – Rey Skywalker 00:52:12 – Ben Solo - Depressive Demon Nightmare Boy 01:07:09 – Palpatine's Return & Watchmen 01:15:44 – Rose Tico 01:19:11 – Fake-Out Deaths 01:25:47 – The Mandalorian (Revisted) 01:30:32 – Wrap Up & Key Learnings FILMS THE MANDALORIAN (2019) — (w) Jon Favreau STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER (2019) — (w) Jj Abrams, Chris Terrio, Jj Abrams, Chris Terrio, Derek Connolly, Colin Trevorrow (d) Jj Abrams LINKS Read: Wikipedia - Fan Service Read: Jeanette Ng - The Rise of Skywalker: Memorabilia without Memory, a Misunderstanding of Hope Read: Film Crit Hulk - The Force Belongs To Us: THE LAST JEDI's Beautiful Refocusing of Star Wars ——— More Draft Zero is brought to you by our awesome Patreons. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, a rating on Spotify, or a review on Podchaser. We are @stuwillis, @mehlsbells and @chasffisher on Twitter. You can find @draft_zero and @_shotzero on Instagram and Twitter. Full show notes at: https://draft-zero.com/2020/dz-66/