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EPISODE · Mar 8, 2016 · 17 MIN

e011: Once Upon a Type

from New Rustacean · host Chris Krycho

Type systems: strong vs. weak, dynamic vs. static, and degrees of expressivity. Notes Talking about type systems! A broad and wide-ranging discussion about type systems in general, with specific examples from languages like PHP, JavaScript, Python, C, C++, Java, C♯, Haskell, and Rust! What is a type system? What are the kinds of things we get out of type systems? What are the tradeoffs with different type systems? What is Rust’s type system like? What is especially attractive about Rust’s type system? A comment on the C integer/character string addition example: what’s actually happening there is that the character string is an array “under the covers,” and as such has an address. C silently switches to using the memory address, which is of course just an integer, when you try to add the two together. As I said on the show: the result is nonsense (unless you’re using this as a way of operating on memory addresses), but it’s compileable nonsense. In a stricter and stronger type system, memory addresses and normal numbers shouldn’t be addable! Links Rust 1.7 released HashMap changes Introduction to Type Theory Visualizing Rust’s type-system The Many Kinds of Code Reuse in Rust Sponsors Aleksey Pirogov Chris Palmer Derek Morr Hamza Sheikh Lachlan Collins Leif Arne Storset Luca Schmid Micael Bergeron Pascal Ralph Giles (“rillian”) Ralph “FriarTech” Loizzo reddraggone9 Ryan Ollos William Roe Become a sponsor Patreon Venmo Dwolla Cash.me Contact New Rustacean: Twitter: @newrustacean Email: [email protected] Chris Krycho GitHub: chriskrycho Twitter: @chriskrycho

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Type systems: strong vs. weak, dynamic vs. static, and degrees of expressivity. Notes Talking about type systems! A broad and wide-ranging discussion about type systems in general, with specific examples from languages like PHP, JavaScript, Python, C, C++, Java, C♯, Haskell, and Rust! * What is a type system? * What are the kinds of things we get out of type systems? * What are the tradeoffs with different type systems? * What is Rust’s type system like? * What is especially attractive about Rust’s type system? A comment on the C integer/character string addition example: what’s actually happening there is that the character string is an array “under the covers,” and as such has an address. C silently switches to using the memory address, which is of course just an integer, when you try to add the two together. As I said on the show: the result is nonsense (unless you’re using this as a way of operating on memory addresses), but it’s compellable nonsense. In a stricter and stronger type system, memory addresses and normal numbers shouldn’t be addable! Sponsors * Aleksey Pirogue * Chris Palmer * Derek Morr * Hamza Sheikh * Lachlan Collins * Leif Arne Storset * Luca Schmid * Micael Bergeron * Pascal * Ralph Giles (“gillian”) * Ralph “FriarTech” Loizzo * reddraggone9 * Ryan Oleos * William Roe Become a sponsor * Patreon.com/newrustacean * Venmo.com/chriskrycho * Dwolla.com/hub/chriskrycho * Cash.me/$chriskrycho Contact * New Rustacean: - Twitter: @newrustacean - Email: [email protected] * Chris Krycho - GitHub: chriskrycho - Twitter: @chriskrycho

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