E055: Safety Works When People Are Included with Mark McBride-Wright and Sarah Ischer

When a hydrochloric acid pipe ruptured early in her career, Sarah Ischer’s life changed forever. What followed was not just a workplace investigation, but a personal reckoning that reshaped her entire professional path. In this episode, Sarah shares how being questioned instead of supported sparked her determination to ensure no worker ever feels unsafe, unheard, or unseen again. From late night Googling industrial hygiene programs after a 12 hour shift to becoming a nationally respected leader in workplace health and safety, her journey is a story of purpose forged through experience. Now Senior Director of Expertise at the What Works Institute, Sarah brings a human centred lens to safety leadership. She challenges the myth that safety is common sense, argues that safety is not to people but with people, and explains why workers are not resisting safety but resisting systems that exclude them. This conversation explores trust, inclusion, advocacy, metrics, AI, and the future of health and safety through one clear message these are not data points they are people.