E107 - Guests: Air Marshal Greg Bagwell CB CBE & Air Vice-Marshal Sean Bell, Former RAF Fast-Jet Pilots & Hosts of The High Ground Podcast episode artwork

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E107 - Guests: Air Marshal Greg Bagwell CB CBE & Air Vice-Marshal Sean Bell, Former RAF Fast-Jet Pilots & Hosts of The High Ground Podcast

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This episode is also available as a video podcast on my YouTube Channel here: https://youtu.be/7vYdDL4e1k0Greg Bagwell and Sean Bell have been colleagues and friends of mine for many years now.  Both are former fast-jet pilots but we all went down different aircraft paths at the end of flying training.  Whilst I went to the Jaguar, Greg went to the Tornado, and Sean went to the Harrier, via an instructional tour on the Jet Provost as a "creamed off" Qualified Flying Instructor.  We all climbed the career ladder to close to the top of the Royal Air Force, with Sean and I making 2* rank, whilst Greg went further and retired as a 3* Air Marshal.Unsurprisingly, given our similar backgrounds and long standing relationship, this episode is full of banter and flying stories, but there is also a plethora of great leadership advice and plenty of commentary on contemporary events from two guys who are very close to what is happening in the here and now. Both have portfolio careers, but Greg is the President of the Air & Space Power Association (https://airspacepower.com/), and Sean is a regular defence commentator on Sky News.  They also come together as hosts of The High Ground Podcast, which focuses specifically on air & space power issues of the moment.I highly recommend their podcast if you are looking for some expert commentary on this crucial component of defence capability.  You can find it either via a link on the Air Space Power Association website (main link above) or at the following:Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1JQusc6SVDIpjmkUH6gPy6 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AirSpacePowerAssociation You can also find Greg and Sean individually here:Greg: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gjbagwell/X: https://x.com/gregbagwellSean:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-bell-1998633a/X: https://x.com/BellusUKSend me a Text MessageSupport the showJOIN THE CONVERSATIONWhat stood out for you in this episode? I would genuinely welcome your thoughts, experiences and suggestions for future programmes. Use the “Send me a Text Message” link above or leave a comment on YouTube.If you enjoyed the episode, please follow Leading 4 Life “Stories” on your podcast platform so that you receive future episodes automatically. Sharing it with someone who might find it valuable is also one of the best ways to support the show.SUPPORT LEADING 4 LIFE “STORIES”If you value the content and would like to help me continue producing the podcast, you can become a Supporter, Champion or Patron by clicking the "Support the show" link above or by going to:https://www.patreon.com/leading4life/ Any contribution is greatly appreciated, but listening, following, sharing and providing feedback are equally valuable.CONNECT WITH BOB JUDSONLinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/judsonbob/Website:https://leading4life.co.uk/YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@Leading4LifeX:https://x.com/JudsonBob

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This episode is also available as a video podcast on my YouTube Channel here: https://youtu.be/7vYdDL4e1k0 Greg Bagwell and Sean Bell have been colleagues and friends of mine for many years now. Both are former fast-jet pilots but we all went down different aircraft paths at the end of flying training. Whilst I went to the Jaguar, Greg went to the Tornado, and Sean went to the Harrier, via an instructional tour on the Jet Provost as a "creamed off" Qualified Flying Instructor.&nbs...

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