EPISODE · Jun 26, 2026 · 2H 24M
E146 | Aliens, Consciousness, and Reality (for Experiencers and Skeptics) | Michael Garfield in dialogue with Tim Adalin
from Altered States Of Conversation · host Tim Adalin | Voicecraft
Evolutionary biologist, complexity thinker and UAP experiencer Michael Garfield joins Tim Adalin for a dialogue on UFOs, entity encounters, and the strange territory where consciousness studies, evolutionary biology, complex systems, the ontologically shocking, information theory and the imaginal meet. Can we engage the strange without becoming impotent, in a way that actually matters for how we live, belong, and make sense together?---Stay in touch by subscribing on Substack here: https://timadalin.substack.com/Access the shownotes & learn more about Voicecraft podcasts, events, courses and membership network @ https://www.voicecraft.io/content/e146-uap-and-disclosure-for-experiencers-and-skeptics-michael-garfield-in-dialogue-with-tim-adalinConnect with Michael at on Substack @ https://michaelgarfield.substack.com/And locate the rest of his work here @ https://linktr.ee/michaelgarfield---Chapters0:00 Intro2:26 Meeting the strange where you are: evolutionary biology & the UFO4:52 Telos, self-organisation & ontological shock8:23 Integral philosophy & the Buddhist tetralemma22:11 Has it become sayable? Psychedelics, channeling & attentional capitalism26:47 Three frames: psyop, projection & the external other38:23 The economy in ontological shock & noise in machine learning40:52 Noise, precognition & retrocausal information43:15 Metabolic ontology & the ecodelic45:42 A psychedelic the whole civilisation is taking at once49:54 Decoding animal communication & the interiority of plants52:00 The self as the strangest alien53:16 Kant, the noumenon & the limits of perception55:42 Is there a "there" to break through to?1:00:27 Dreaming, the imaginal & communication across time1:04:40 A hermeneutics of imagination (William Irwin Thompson)1:08:41 Danny Sheehan & a new faculty of perception1:12:25 Flatland & higher-dimensional reality1:24:42 Jacques Vallée's last word on disclosure1:38:01 The stakes: The Big Others1:44:03 "You can't do anything with it": impotence & relevance1:57:30 Becoming planetary & emotion-projection weapons1:59:59 Paranoid vs metanoid2:07:16 Games, value capture & why consensus reality isn't enough2:11:18 Closing Stories: Contact experiences---Additional resources mentioned by Michael in this episode:Hear more of Michael's experiences on the @dannyjones podcast @ https://youtu.be/H0kzIsmZpqshttps://www.realitystudies.co/p/michael-garfield-ai-deepfakes-rewilding-realityhttps://michaelgarfield.substack.com/t/the-phenomenonMiguel Fuentes on epistemic randomnesshttps://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/16/8/4489Some related writing from Michael: https://michaelgarfield.substack.com/p/noisy---Listen to the full intro song by Cantrips titled 'The Big Break' @ https://youtu.be/Qaj-stBL4W0
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