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EPISODE · Jan 29, 2026 · 57 MIN

E156: Matt Hougan, CIO of Bitwise: How To Get Rich in Crypto (without Gambling)

from When Shift Happens Podcast · host Kevin Follonier

Matt Hougan, CIO at Bitwise, explains why Bitcoin could reach $6.5 million and why Solana has "the best setup I've ever seen" for a 10x to $1 trillion.THE SHIFT NEWSLETTER💡Go beyond the mic - subscribe to The Shift, my new weekly newsletter where I share the uncut stories, raw takes, and behind-the-scenes notes from When Shift Happens: https://www.kevinfollonier.com/crypto-web3-newsletter___________PARTNERS💰 Zashi is the easiest self-custody wallet for private transactions - send, receive, and spend Zcash (ZEC) without middlemen or surveillance, built by the team that launched Zcash in 2016.https://z.cash/ecosystem/zashi-wallet/🚀 Jupiter is the most used Decentralized Exchange in Crypto and the largest DEX by volume on Solana: https://jup.ag/🅿️ Paradex is building the future of open finance — an intuitive, permissionless trading platform giving users full control, ultra-low costs, fast execution, and access to global markets in one place. Money Badgers Genesis NFT drops in Q4 — limited spots 👉 https://app.paradex.trade/wl/resilientrogueqv💳 KAST lets you manage and spend stablecoins or crypto with a Visa Card or Apple Pay. Live in 100+ countries: https://go.kast.xyz/VqVO/SHIFT🔓 Trezor offers the safest cold-storage wallets for crypto and true financial independence. Buy with 10% off (promo code in video): https://trezor.io/?transaction_id=1026f18ed46409e495c6db4bff90ab&offer_id=133&affiliate_id=35356🌱 Bitwise Asset Management manages $15B+ across 30+ crypto investment products — ETFs, index funds, alpha, staking, and more. https://bitwiseinvestments.com/💧 Sui is a next-gen Layer 1 making digital asset ownership fast, private, and secure. https://sui.io/🧩 Story makes IP and real-world data programmable, enforceable, and monetizable. https://www.story.foundation★ Forza!, Coinsilium’s Gibraltar-based Bitcoin treasury arm. Coinsilium trades on AQUIS (COIN) and OTCQB (CINGF). https://www.coinsilium.com/🔘 Mantle Network combines Ethereum-level security with low fees and fast transactions via its layer-2 tech. Stake ETH for mETH and join a transparent, community-governed ecosystem. Join the upcoming Mantle Hackathon: https://mantle.to/hackathon/a4t___________Follow Matt Hougan• Twitter: https://x.com/matt_hougan• Twitter: https://x.com/bitwiseinvestFOLLOW WHEN SHIFT HAPPENSTwitter (X): https://x.com/KevinWSHPod  Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/kevinfollonier_ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinfollonier/Website: https://kevinfollonier.com/DISCLAIMERThe info contained herein is for informational purposes only. Nothing herein shall be construed to be financial, legal, or tax advice. The content of this video is solely the opinions of the speakers who are not a licensed financial advisor or registered investment advisor. Trading cryptocurrencies poses considerable risk of loss. The speakers do not guarantee any particular outcome.0:00 Introduction1:35 Please Subscribe2:01 Matt’s Last Episode Popped Off3:59 At Least 10x Left On The Crypto Marketplace?4:36 Why Is Bitcoin Still Early5:43 Who Are You11:09 Our Trusted Partners11:45 Why Is A Higher Price In Gold Bullish For Bitcoin12:49 Matt’s Portfolio Regarding Gold, Bitcoin, & Crypto13:56 How Does 1 Bitcoin Reach $6.5 Million In 20 Years15:03 How Could This Thesis Be Wrong20:27 Wise & Boring vs Unwise & Exciting21:40 Two Bets On Solana Explained25:11 Confusion With Crypto Investing Explained30:00 Does Solana Have The Best Setup30:31 How Big Could Solana Get In 10 Years31:20 Our Valued Sponsors32:29 How Matt Expresses His Bullishness On Solana 37:13 Is Your View Still Holding Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin?38:27 What’s The Deal With Ethereum42:14 Our Esteemed Supporters46:16 Debasement Trading Will Be More Popular In 202648:00 How Do I Get Rich With Crypto In 202649:14 Alpha & Long Term Trends Build Wealth In Crypto55:23 One Thing To Remember From Conversation

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