E163. Aymann Ismail Thinks It's Easy To Conflate Punditry With Journalism

Aymann Ismail (Slate Magazine staff writer) sat down with Bridget for an interview on January 6th 2022, coincidentally, Ismail had been in D.C. on January 6th, 2021, so inevitably their conversation covers the events of that day, including Aymann's sense of the mood of the crowd, what made it different from other Trump rallies, and why many different things can all be true at once about the Capitol riot. They also discuss Aymann's trip to Egypt during the Arab Spring and his coverage of the riots in Minneapolis in 2020, amidst a broader conversation about platforming dangerous ideas & ideologies, 9/11, the Patriot Act and the repercussions within the Muslim community in New York City, the polarization of our two political parties, people who view political violence as an acceptable means of affecting change, Gerrymandering, voter's rights, and they wrap it all up with the biggest mistakes Aymann made as a new father. Be sure to check out Aymann's podcast Scoot Over, a series of conversations about how to build a more inclusive world and what is standing in our way.  This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.phetasy.com/subscribeSupport the show