E208 Nadeshot Talks Warzone, Dr. Disrespect & Future Of Fortnite - IMPAULSIVE EP. 208

I see Dr. Disrespect as a friend. I talked to him throughout the situation. I've been texted here and there.

I think he's one of the best entertainers on the internet. But I just think there is no way you sign a multi-million dollar deal with Twitch on a multi-year term and they ban you and your legal counsel doesn't know why. I hate my haircut. I hate it.

You asked for this. I thought the mullet would be the thing, but it turns out the front, he went straight across. I look like a poindexter. I'm a pinhead.

When you swirl it over a little bit and you have a quaff in the front and then it flows into the mullet in the back, it's actually not too bad. Do you have a crush on me? No, I can recognize your handsome man. Welcome back to Impulsive, the most handsome podcast in the world and the number one podcast in the world.

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That's a big channel. How you doing, Michael? Crazy day this morning. Bradley Martin wanted to shoot a mukbang with the world's spiciest ramen in downtown Los Angeles.

You know what that was like for me to wake up and have to go downtown Los Angeles? It was spicy. And the questions he asked, excuse me and Amar on there, about like how our relationship is. The hell.

Spicy questions too. It was like Hot Ones interview with Spicy Ramen. My organs are melting from the inside. The hot chip was the worst thing in my life.

That's one of the few things in life that I'll actually never do again. That Pocky hot one chip. I will never do that again. I thought I was going to die.

Speaking of, I just hate to talk about buttholes like this. Do you know what an enema is? Absolutely, dude. My girlfriend's a retired adult film star.

Okay, so can you explain to me what this is? It's a device that's used to clear out the butthole, dude. It's a butthole, dude. Yeah, absolutely, dude.

What do you want me to do one with her? For you? No, sorry. Are you talking about a colonic?

That's where they rinse out your insides. I like this. I like this. A colonic.

Yeah, they rinse out your colon. They stick a tube up your ass and shoot water through it. I don't like any of it. No, it's great.

It's great for your... I've never done it for you. It's like getting your mouth clean, but the opposite side. I hate this.

I hate it. I hate this conversation. I brought it up. I completely, this is 100% my fault.

Huh? Have you done it? Oh, she's done it a lot. Jeff, my manager's done a lot.

He's saying, give me double thumbs up. He's shaking his head. Oh, your girl does it. It's supposedly great.

It's supposed to kill a lot of toxins, pull a lot of the... I hate... No, no, no. The buildup.

It's better. A three-day water fast. You choose. Our poor guest.

What a crazy... You need poor. Let's bring it back, guys. This Forbes 30 under 30 OG is a retired professional call-of-duty player.

He's the founder and co-owner of 100 Thieves, an e-sports team valued at $125 million. Back by Dragon Scooter Braun, ladies and gentlemen, at the forefront of new media and business. It's Nate Chow. Yeah.

He's a hero. He's a hero. I thought you were going to say our best-looking guest since Bryce Hall. Appreciate you guys having me on, man.

Of course. It was great. You're a legend, man. Thank you.

I think it's safe to say that. We were talking a little bit when you came in about how I said, I said, man, you've been in this industry for a while and you're killing it. And you said, I'll let you say, I don't want to be disrespectful. Well, I feel like you said I was like a hero, rock star.

You were talking about me in high school. I'm like, yeah, you were talking about me in high school. Now the kids are talking about all these Fortnite players and I got to get my rep back up. Warzone helped me a lot, which has been great.

You're still nasty with it, bro. I appreciate it. Nasty. He says he's unbeatable in the Gulag.

Unbeatable. Is that true? Well, unless I get like a bullshit VOK shotgun. The snipers were really whack.

I'm glad they somewhat got rid of those. They made a lot of bad decisions with the Gulag, but I don't think there's anybody in this room that could be in the Gulag. I talk about this all the time, man. I am terrible at that game.

And it's a great game. Are you mad that they nerfed to the Bruin? No, I'm really happy that they nerfed. They didn't even nerfed it.

Really? They say they're going to do weapon tuning and they barely change anything. It's like, I envision them just having sliders for the attributes of the weapon and they barely just touch it. They lower the long range distance, but the game is completely broken right now.

Why? There's a visual glitch. Have buildings disappear? No, not even buildings disappear, where your gun, it looks like you're carrying like an Autobot on your gun.

You can't even see your screen, spectating, all that stuff. It's been like this for 10 days. There's over like 70 million people that play this game and it's completely broken right now. What's the best gun in the game?

I want to ask this right after the bat for the Warzone viewers. Well, the Bruin's the best gun in the game. Hands down. Listen, I don't know what the fuck.

It's okay. I'm serious. Like, what are you saying? What is the Gulag?

I see it on Twitter. What is the Gulag? Is it like Siberia's prison? Wait, you don't play Call of Duty at all?

I don't play video games. You know what? That's a lie. I'll hop on Switch.

I'll do Smash Bros and Tetris. Okay. Yeah, which I like. But I don't know about all this Gulag talk.

I used to be addicted to World of Warcraft. There you go. And you're a bit of a World of Warcraft. Talk to my roommate about it because he got back on the World of Warcraft train.

Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, you know. And he sits there in his room all day just playing now. I saw his tweet that he was playing in looking for raid partners and stuff.

And so is he sucked in? Is he officially locked back in? Because that game I've seen personally like actually very close to me. Almost like Rude Likes.

Yeah, absolutely. It completely consumes you. That's the reason why I never signed up to play because I'm a very addicted personality. And I just won't let myself go down that path.

But Jack, he's really good at prioritizing the shit that he needs to get done. He's a businessman. He stays on top of all his priorities. So the tough part is he has a new girlfriend.

It's like the first time he's ever had a long-term girlfriend. But she's pretty independent. So when she's on her own time, I don't think she minds. But I can hear Jack yelling like all hours of the night just playing.

I actually don't know how many hours he's not getting into it yet. It's a slippery slope though. That's why we're doing it. That relationship between the girlfriend and the Warzone player is such a story relationship and is a part of so many viral videos online.

And it bleeds its way even into my relationship. Like there's so many nights where I'm just like, damn, dude, all I want to do right now is drop a supermarket with the boys. Oh, let's go. And that would make me so happy.

And as soon as I'm about to sit down, she's like, babe, babe, we gotta go do this. She sits there and watch. She will. She's so important.

Yeah, she is for sure. That's why I got to set the precedent. Because me and Jack, we both got girlfriends right around the same time. And my girl, she knows that I used to be a professional gamer.

And I stream like six hours a day. So it's like, baby, I got to practice. There's nothing you can say or do. Like, just sit behind me in the bed, watch movies.

She's cool with it. It's great. You're cool with it? Oh, yeah.

Miss Cassidy, right? If I'm not with my girl for 15 minutes and we're in the same location, she says, do you want me to eat? It's okay. I'll give you a little bit of a workout.

I'm watching UC videos. I'm eating, please. I love you. I'll be up in a second, please.

Well, you guys just started dating, right? Like recently? Yeah, three, four months. I feel like that.

How long are you in? Our one-year anniversary is coming up in like five days. Congratulations. Appreciate it.

Do you have something planned? I do have something planned right now. When's this getting uploaded? Tomorrow.

She ain't gonna listen. Do not risk it. She seems like one of those solid girlfriends who will watch your episode with Logan. Yeah, but her Instagram.

So what I love when I first met her, so I met her at the all-white Nobu party last year for July. And one thing that I loved immediately, like my old boss, like one of my best friends, he started off the gaming. And his rule when we first started coming off the gaming is she has a Twitter, you cannot fuck with her. Because you just have no idea like what their intentions are.

So the one thing I love about her is her Instagram's on private. She don't accept new followers. She's like very low-key. She's not in the social.

How about she's in the space? She worked at an organization called Echo Fox for a little bit doing PR, but she's not in esports anymore. She works actually for the PR firm that our company is represented by. Wait, this is Justine's sister.

We broke up. Oh, fuck. No, it's fine. It's fine.

No, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. That was a boy-year relationship.

So I'm not saying. I remember that. Yes. Okay.

We broke up like two years ago, I think it was. And then I met this girl after being single for years. It was great. She's from Texas.

She's from Texas. She's from Texas. That's awesome. It's cool that she supports your lifestyle.

And Jack, too. I mean, because I know when your man is sitting on a video game for him, you said she's shooting for six hours a day. Now I do. I wasn't for like the last three years when I started this company, 100 Thieves.

What's your workload like right now? Dude, it's like a balance of working on like a high-low project. So obviously, we're hyper-focused on apparel. But we are an esports organization.

We have like four teams across numerous esports titles. And then we have like the entertainment arm where we have our own podcast. Just like you guys, Courage and HL show that we do weekly. We have content house videos.

I got to shoot back over the house and film after this. So it's a lot of different stuff. Like I'm not knee-deep in operational managing people. We have over like 40 employees.

I got my partner, Johnny, went to like Wharton Business School. He came from a venture before that. So he's built companies before, helps manage the people. And I do what I'm best to get on camera and spread the voice and spread the brand.

He's the operator. Yeah, he's the operator. Did you know that it was going to get to this point? Because I'll be honest with you.

When I used to work at a company called Love Sack, John Dean Baggers, right? Do you know this? We were just talking about Love Sack. Listen, and I worked with Team Art.

I worked with all the guys from Space. And every day, I would come in and I would look at my top tier list of who I wanted to work with. And I was always at the top of the five. I think I even reached out to you from the account.

I was like, hey man, are you sure you don't want one of these? And I didn't do pro-actics. That's cap. When I first moved to LA, the only piece of furniture that I had in my apartment.

Plus, you had Love Sack. You did. I bought that. But I knew that.

You knew you were a fan, but I wanted to bring it up a notch. I wanted to get you more stuff. And I either tried to reach out, but I always looked at you as kind of the cream of the crop in the gaming industry, the highest level. And I guess, just to bring back the question, did you ever think it was going to get to this point?

Did you ever think you were going to go from playing video games to being at this top level, working with business guys, operating on this business that brings in hundreds of millions of dollars. This is wild, right? Yeah, fuck no. I mean, I was working at McDonald's for like four years in high school.

Then I went to community college for about a year. And my big break was winning a tournament in 2011. It was Call of Duty put on a promotional event to promote their new Call of Duty, which was Modern Warfare 3 at that time. So they had a million dollar prize pool.

And I wasn't even supposed to compete into it because they had ways to qualify. And one of my teammates from like past years couldn't play with his boys because one was from Canada, one wasn't 18 years. So I was like the third string coming in. And we fucking just destroyed everybody.

And we ended up winning. So I used that money, quit my job, quit school, moved out of my parents' house and just started all this. And that was when Justin TV first turned into Twitch. So I just got to ride this wave at a perfect time.

And it just kept evolving year over year over year. So I feel very lucky. I'm sure a lot of you guys know timing is everything. So if I was really good at video games like five years before that, I mean, there wasn't like anything incredible to play.

Like Halo 1, you had Starcraft was really big in like Korea and Asia. But I just got really lucky that Call of Duty took off in the way that it did at the time that it did. For sure. We talk about that a lot on the show.

It's like, it's like you happen to be born in the right generation where that became an industry and you happen to be really good at it. Yeah. My question is this. Were you always good?

Like when you were in high school, did you know or have the aspiration that you wanted to be a professional gamer? Oh yeah. I mean, we were talking about before the show started, like growing up, they had MLG tournaments like Halo on USA. They had it on like the TV network.

You watch it on Saturday morning. I'm like going crazy over this. Like, how do I do this? And the way they promoted their professional players, they treat like royalty.

And I wasn't very athletic in high school. Like I played golf and wrestling freshman year. I didn't make the basketball team. My brother's like 6'2, built really well.

I can never beat him in anything. So video games is always like my outlet. And so when I first started playing Halo 2, I got pretty good pretty quickly, but I never was like top tier at Halo. At least above average.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is like to the kid who is grinding every single day and wants to be a professional gamer, but doesn't have that it factor. Is there an it factor? Networking. I mean, like you could be really good or you could be okay.

You might not be the cream of the crop like at that top level. And I never was, but I was really good at leveraging teammates to put together the right roster, right? Because there's always players I surround myself that were better than me. And it was just like, all right, I've got the resources.

I'm on one of the biggest teams. Now we can go get the best players. I mean, it's tough when kids ask me like, how do I go pro? How do I do this?

It's really just relationships. Playing with people that are better than you. Rogan says gaming is a real problem. Waste of players time.

We talked about this in this podcast. He did get clipped a little bit and it wasn't an anecdotal thing. I don't love what happened here, but did you have a take on this? Yeah, I mean, I think, first of all, I love Joe Rogan.

I love his podcast and I think he's a really smart guy. So really articulate. He can really articulate his thoughts really well. And I can appreciate that with anybody.

But I think the things that he said about gaming can be attributed to any other hobby that one might have. It's like, I mean, at the end of the day, nothing we do has a point to it. Like we're going to die one day and that's going to be it. Obviously, other things we do in different industries or different hobbies can turn into a business.

So like when he brought up the jujitsu, I'm going to create my own dojo. I'm going to get better and then I'm going to have people pay me to teach them. I mean, there's so many different ways to earn money playing video games nowadays. And obviously, it's like the top 1%, maybe like the 0.01% of people that are playing video games.

It's not as simple as maybe the route of a jujitsu master. But at the end of the day, I think video games are a great hobby for kids. You know, stay out of trouble. Sure.

I think it's a great way to make friends, find people that have common ground as you, have same personality, same taste. Sure. Some of my best friends are going to say at my wedding, I've all met through gaming. So gaming now, I don't think it's just about hopping into a server and trying to be really good or having as much fun as possible.

It's really like it's on social network. It's a club. It's a club. And so like the way we talked about it, what I brought up was like, he talked about it in a way that was almost like everything in life has to have some grandiose endgame.

And I brought up the point that not everybody lives like that. Like there's a lot of people out there that are just living to meet other people, living to build relationships. Some girls out there just want to have kids and a family. And they're not, you know, there are guys out there that just want to do the same.

They don't want a jujitsu dojo. They want to meet people. They want to kick it. They want to drink a PBR and watch a mass show.

Don't you feel like this is kind of your own dojo? Like you're giving people an inside look of what you're doing while you're playing this game that you've mastered. Yeah, in some ways. I mean, I always just wanted to start, like before people even were streaming on Twitter, on Justin TV and YouTube was just starting, gaming content was just exploding.

Like SportsCenter Top 10 was always my inspiration. I sat watching repeats of SportsCenter every single day with my brother. It's like, oh, I can go buy this thing from Best Buy. It's going to let me record it and I can upload to YouTube and people can see how good I am at the game.

So I understand where you're coming from. But for me, it's just always been like a means to an end, like a platform for me to be able to be myself and be really good at something. And it's just been a fun ride. Well, you came out on top or like the light side.

But like I'd be lying if I said there wasn't a dark side to gaming. I'm telling you, I even experienced this when I got into that. My WoW addiction. Dude, I was 12 years old and I got kicked out of my guild.

I was a little bit of a fuck, guys. But I would, on God, I would cry and roll around on the ground screaming, Life hates me. I hate myself. I'm not working out.

For hours. I'm sure I was being a pussy. But also like, this is one of the lowest moments in my life. This video game.

I was playing WoW. I'm a little no-mage. I got kicked out of my guild. I'm just crying at my computer.

And again, I think it has to be acknowledged that an addiction like this can definitely fuck some people up. Absolutely. Do you think it's going to get worse? Especially with the innovation of virtual reality.

I think that's the perfect way of thinking about this. Because one of my co-founders, Jackson, he retweeted a photo of Laura Croft from Tomb Raider and what she looked like in 1998 and what it looks like now in 2020. She's probably bad as fuck. Oh, yeah.

She got a set on her. It's great. I always have a shout out to Angelina Jolie. Wait, she played Tomb Raider, right?

Yeah. I don't think the right one. That's actually dope. My girl's been asking what outfits to wear for role-playing lately.

And I think that's a good look. So you always hear Elon Musk talk about, oh, yeah, we might be into a simulation already. But gaming, you're not going to be able to tell the difference in like 20 years. So when you talk about addiction, it's like there's even a bunch of different TV shows that try to play on just what this world is going to turn into in the virtual world.

And I think if you don't have your priorities straight, like we talked about Jack earlier, it can be very toxic and it can consume your life. So I understand that. But how? How can you keep your priorities straight?

You love this. True addiction. You know. Everyone's had it.

It's so hard to tell yourself, hold on, I have things to do. Because you love this thing so much. How did you do it? How does Jack do it?

I find it fascinating that he does it so well. I think it just comes down to like what your means are, right? Because my parents, they never wanted me to do it because they thought I was talking about my life. But I held down a job.

I got good grades. And as soon as I moved down to my parents' house, I was like, what were they going to tell me? I didn't need that for money anymore. So I want to do what I was going to do.

But I knew deep down that I had the financial position to give it a shot for at least a year or two. And if I don't make any money from it, then I go back to the traditional route. So when you talk about that situation, I feel like kids nowadays that, you know, have that aspiration. I want to be ninja.

I want to be shrouded. I want to be doctor, disrespect, I want to be Tim. They have to be able to understand. They have to support themselves and support their family or whatever.

their situation is individually before they go off the fucking event and stream 10 hours a day and not go to school and don't have a job like it's not gonna happen overnight yeah that's it that's a great point because we talk about that sometimes too it's so many people out there think about this like jumping off the diving board moment where they're like yo you know what i'm gonna give it all up and move out to california i'm gonna give it all up and become a gamer you bought yourself through hard work the opportunity to try to become a gamer you showed up to a point where you gave yourself a safety net or a layer of of you know financial freedom that allowed you that chance at it and so i always talk about that make sure that you are set up for both success in your next pursuit but also for failure if you if your next pursuit doesn't work out have your fallback have your have your main job or have that money that's going to get you through that period i think it's i think there's too many people out there that look at an opportunity like professional gaming as like a pipe dream chance that they're just gonna take yeah it's you know that that and that itself is dangerous because there's a lot of people there i quit everything like they'll send me tweets hey i quit everything i bought like the setup i'm streaming 10 hours a day how do i get there i'm gonna ask brother what are you doing how many times do people reach out and they tell you their goals and they're lofty as fuck and you you in your mind down go yo that was dumb this kid is fucked yeah it has to have another goal you gotta have your shit straight but yeah but you how courage is a perfect example right so courage was going to school full-time he ended up graduating but while he was going to school he was interning at gaming in downtown new york and he was just like a production assistant and then one day one of the main casters for the call to the event he was sick couldn't come into the office and then they were looking around like what do we do he's like i think i could do it and then that was just the beginning that's awesome he interned there for months he was still going to school making sure his future was set he had a route to go down and then it just popped off and he made the opportunity what it is today no question about that do you encourage people to go in that direction for professional gaming and on top of that if you do how would you uh what would you recommend for someone trying to get into that i i really believe that it's it's some astronomical odds to now get to the point where you could be like a top player i mean but it's possible it is possible like tifu is a perfect example too he he was one of the best h1z1 players and he wasn't followed by anybody we watched him and then face clan came around and i'm sorry fortnight came around and his name was like in the bucket about okay this guy's really good he's not on a team yet right and then he finally got the opportunity to play for face clan then the drama went down he got banned from twitch he exploded even further behind that it's all timing but it's nowadays if i were trying to do what i did 10 years ago i don't think i'd be able to do it wow because it really is about the relationships and how good you are and you could be really really good but if you don't have the relationships or at least an in with the right person it's kind of like an old guard that is really really difficult to break into there's a lot of solo games right now they're taking over right fortnight mostly solo but it's not necessarily the same team game that used to be team aspect yeah i think that's a great point too like battle royale for sure you've seen like a lot of like 14 15 year old kids emerge out of nowhere but i think that's like the qualifiers that fortnight has had in the events that they've thrown there's like an opportunity every single week they have their like daily cash house to you'll get your name out there where like five years ago that didn't exist that's a great point super supportive of the community right that's the next game that's absolutely putting on for the people that are playing it all the time i love that new media in general is getting so oversaturated i mean most markets are you know every time a kid tells me like i want to be a vlogger i like i shudder for them or i'm sure i want to be a professional gamer it's so fucking hard i like the odds honestly if someone asks me i go i bet it's easier to get into the nba than to become a top tier youtube because everybody's trying to do youtube so you gotta make god damn sure you got something special about you feel some sort of niche you're a phenomenal player is this man like yourself you gotta like i said you gotta have the effect there i got a question yeah okay so when i first started uh streaming which i tried i saw you were breaking place against the wall so that was that was my thing that was like my effect i was like i'm not good at gaming but i got a lot of energy and i fucked it up so every time i die for it i'll break a plate that'll be people want to see you break place it didn't work uh it didn't work didn't quote unquote didn't work like what was not what was your stream level ship on not working how many people do you watch 10 000 maybe is that like not what you can say that's not working yeah 10 000 viewers is really that's what i'm saying that's why i say quote unquote i just don't know if they were uh i think there are people who really love me not gaming fans does that matter though it doesn't matter i think it does because i noticed you know very first stream 250 000 people watching second stream 150 000 people do you think the majority of people that are watching uh karina kopf stream are people that really enjoy uh what game does she play minecraft do you think they're minecraft fans or do you think they're fans of is she good is she good she's gonna hang so i can't even hang no i don't know i remember playing with her in fortnite and she's so much um so i think i learned that on twitter streaming gaming anyways skill is important skill is still very very important because even me as a person who uh doesn't often find myself watching gamers stream live i thoroughly enjoy watching ninja stream and people stream because of how god dang good they are and i remember before i got into the world and just started the gaming community before i got into it and i want to talk about this with you is my my thought process was why would i sit down and watch someone play games i could just do it myself and then i got immersed into the world i go whoa yeah there's a lot going on here there's some really talented people here with a special skill set i'm entertained by them so i guess what what does it take to be a good streamer and why has this industry that i thought was seemingly impossible blown up streaming well it's like just go back to your point streaming for you with 10 000 people probably worth your time i mean when you spend like a couple hours making a vlog and you've got a million people tuning into it in like the first like six hours of it being published it doesn't make sense for you to stream with 10 000 people like karina i i've never watched her streamer maybe i clicked on it once when she was on facebook just to see what she was doing or how i was panning out it's like even her i was confused when she started streaming i'm like you have i mean you upload a photo on instagram you got a million likes i don't know what are you what are you streaming for i think in the streaming industry being really good is just a part of one of the things that you need i mean it really depends on the game you're playing right if you're streaming fortnite or you're streaming warzone i i would argue that probably like 90 of the people that are most watched are because they are really really good at it and by really good by that standard is better than average you know what i mean because there's a lot of people that play words on out to me like i got 1.1 kd let me join 100 these i'm like motherfucker that is not that is that used to bring people on the team no no no how do you do that how do you find people that you want to bring on the team i mean it's just knowing the industry and knowing the community and knowing who's who and who's what but i would say being really good if you're playing like one of the most popular games like warzone or fortnite is very important and you gotta have a personality too i think tfue is another good example where he isn't the most personable person in the world i mean like his personality doesn't really shine right he's actually pretty quiet he's just so good but he's so fucking good that everybody wants to watch him um but like tim the tapman is another example he's pretty good games he's not the best but i can sit there watch him do anything i watched i watched him paint walls that's that's that's a very good point and somebody came up to me at speaking to the guys the other day and they were like i'm not the most like outgoing or crazy personality what can i do to break into the space and i said be very good at one individual thing but like you said like have some sort of niche that you're very good at right but to your point i think that there are also people out there who could sell water to oil who could sell ketchup popsicle to a woman who could sell shit to a pig you know because they have the personality charisma charisma they have that gene where we're like yo it doesn't matter what they're talking about the way they deliver shit people just want to fucking watch them right yeah you know banks love the fucking king banks is one of the most charismatic people that i've ever met you know he has his highs he has his lows some days he might not be feeling like himself but when he's on his highs and he's he's talking to you you're listening and that's one of the reasons why like banks doesn't make fucking videos he doesn't want to he doesn't want to but he was one of the most popular people on the internet because the people that are around him and when he's talking you just believe him that's one of the that's one of the worst things because i text him all the time and i'm like literally i texted him yesterday i want you to start making videos again i really because because they're only partially because i just know everybody wants to see anything vlogs vlogs what do you think uh 29 right there comes a point in every man's life every young vlogger's life where they're like yo fuck this shit i mean i get it i mean yo it gets old no i'm 35 i haven't done it for that long that's why he's been doing it for so long so what do you want him to do no no he's got passionate spunk when he speaks and i think that's it he's got a little bravado everything he says it's like you believe him yeah it's it's truthful i want to be happy what i want it's for him to be happy and he does he does a great job on it but as you know and as i know you know banks wrestles with some demons and his own happiness and his own satisfaction in life and so at the end of the day if he tells me yo like that kind of shit doesn't bring enjoyment anymore your main priority your main focus in life has to be being happy it has to be it has to be it can't be anything else if it's anything else than that then you are going to be misaligned you're going to be miserable doesn't matter how much fucking long you have have you come to that realization yet i'm sure you have but did you have that epiphany well that's kind of why i started 100 thieves i was okay i used to daily vlog for a long time like when i was dating jenna and i was hanging out with her and justine all the time i was vlogging every single day and i was recording i was editing it i was doing a thumbnail i was doing a title i mean you know the show it just gets repetitive you're not happy anymore you can't take any pride in your work because you upload a vlog and you can't even enjoy like the feedback they get from you because you gotta be thinking about what you're doing the next day and so my channel i feel fortunate enough to where i take a lot of breaks and every time i come back people are still watching this not a lot of people do that so i feel very lucky just to be you know sort of blessed in that sense um but what's great about 100 thieves now is we have like 15 people on our production team and so they're curating the concept i'm just showing up me and myself the concepts are great it's edited it's a thumbnail it's offloaded i don't even have to think about it i'm basically on autopilot and so now i get to focus on things i really enjoy and you made me laugh on my dm you guys golf yeah kid loves golf and by the way and by the way it's an up-and-coming thing that's happening with the community creators just doing some practice golf swings right now you don't have to just said i mean out here in la you're spoiled because it's some of those beautiful courses you drive an hour up to more parks in the valley and it is incredible you're hitting a ball off like a 300 foot elevation down to a little green but you're out there and nobody's around you just you and your boys trying to hit this ball as far as it can go and you're drinking and just having a good time and i think that's what a lot of you know young kids are realizing now that there's so many people in their early 20s where the pga was having a hard time the last decade tiger got hurt nobody was really watching these events and it wasn't until you started seeing more names pop up like justin thomas got happy wolf coming up calmore college just won the pga championship so you have storylines again but these kids in their young 20s like they grew up with their dads watching golf but they might go hit the ball the range every now and again but now that they're adults and can go do whatever they want it's like i want to go to the club i want to be in bed at nine o'clock so i can be up at 7 a.m to go play golf with my boys and you're seeing it pop up so much on tiktok now which i just love seeing all the golf right and so it's like i think what happens is anytime you start to add the trick shot aspect in the younger community gets excited like it's like it was the same way with like snowboarding with everything else like when you start throwing 360 new grabs and the kids start paying attention now you got these guys out there who are flicking the ball up and hitting it and people fall in love with that first and they're like well maybe i should give this golf so i love what all these guys are doing on tiktok on instagram with turning golf into kind of like a uh gamified thing for social media and it's and it's taken off and i'd love to play with you is that a public course yeah i would love to bring out and that's and that's really why i brought it up because you asked it's like i did get burnt out and logging is tough for me and so that's why i'm starting like the entire like sports media arm of 100 these where i'm starting a golf channel and i'm gonna go out play three times three times a week it's like right for the taking there's nobody that's really like gm golf out of texas they're great they're the guys you're probably talking about when the trick shots but there's just no there's not a personality on youtube about golf everything on youtube and golfing is just how you get better here's some instructions here's some drills but there's no camaraderie i think my guys holding one trick shot is one of the guys on instagram that i watch who does absolutely incredible things on on instagram but uh great sport he hates it he doesn't like it i can't live in ohio man i know i know have you ever hit a pure iron shot i don't know what you're saying i i if anybody listen to this podcast i promise you there's a lot of things i feel good in life but there is nothing better than hitting a pure golf shot i think i've done it dude i went to the uh the range often when i was young and i tried for a long time i've tried fucking everything at this point and i just find every time i go golfing all i do is with the golf cart i'm drifting the golf cart around and getting kicked out have you gone golfing as an adult yeah yes i have no as an actual with a beard no you haven't oh the last person i played golf was the no beard not many people yeah but i don't i don't like competitive in the sense of like yo if you drive better than me i'm gonna shoot a double leg take gun on you it's not a sports athlete it's not a stick sports athlete great way to put it i don't love handling sticks and balls i hate golfing as a kid yeah i think he's calling you out i hated golfing as a kid now that i'm an adult i love it i could probably see my interest changing when i was a kid i hated uh i hate coffee now i love coffee what happened what happened people change who would guess but yeah i uh i don't see myself what's your birthday april 1st april 1st i'm a joke i'm a joke i'm a joke let's get forward to christmas i'm gonna get you golf lessons wow no matt i'm telling you i don't want him wow i don't want it wait don't give him any gifts as a matter of fact don't give him anything he hates i look i love the offer i'm just telling you like this is me saying ahead of time before you give me the golf lessons and i do not show up because of my just pure disinterest i give him to mike please i would happily i didn't think the maverick himself would be so close-minded on golf i feel like that's the thing i'm not close-minded i tried i tried we'll die in this hill we'll get him back out there but listen it sounds like you're creating for you now which is like the secret if i had to uh summarize it eventually you realize that the only reason i'm doing all this shit the only reason i'm continuing to do this and not completely burn out and want to jump off a bridge is because i'm doing it because it makes me happy yeah stop trying to satisfy an audience i take breaks now whenever i goddamn please it's really working for me like creating has become fun again and uh yeah i think that's that's the solution just correct readers listen watch watch your burnout and don't let it happen to you i don't i don't think the days of daily vlogging will ever return the way they had in the past but who's daily vlogging right now i don't think i think kids are getting smarter they're like whoa that's not that's not the way you're just not at the top of your game you're not putting out content your ability to create concepts that are winning concepts day after day after day is near impossible and it just burns you out like even you know even from a three week is it's tricky i mean it's a lot harder it's a lot of content but what i'm again slowly realizing is surround yourself with a team and really optimize your business which is what you did yeah what age did you have that i'm at 25 and i'm like okay i think i need to make some moves now and hire more people than i had in the past so you got 40 employees yeah it's a lot of people working it is it is yeah i think for me what really did it is uh i've got a really smart uh one of my friends that actually helped me build the the pitch deck that we presented at the nba finals in like 2016 he uh helped me build the whole thing out he was a fan of mine growing up i ignored him for a really long time because he would dm me this wild shit he looked like a young kid in his twitter bible said he worked for nest spacex and google i'm like bro you're not even older than me like this so i just ignored it for so long and then he finally told me what he did he was like a venture partner for investment funds so he helped me put this deck together and really just sat me down and we just talked through the businesses that he's seen build uh the leverage that i have with the community that i have and 100th is actually only supposed to be an apparel company and then when he got involved him and his fund where they were trying to invest in esports teams and i was a part of one for a really long time and i left that to move to la just to be on my own and so at that point it was like a light at the end of the tunnel when he talked about how many resources i could have and how he would help me find the right people smart people to help me because i've got a lot of good ideas but i'm not the best at executing them and so having people around me like you said has just made things so much more uh motivating i wake up every day i want to do what i'm doing sure sure which is amazing who found scooter and uh drink uh man i'll tell you what i forget how scooter Braun came into the fold uh I mean I'll probably attribute it to my my partner uh John we actually got matched up with some random guy there was this random dude who said he knew Scooter was like one of Scooter's business partners and then he went and told Scooter that he was our business partners and he was basically like I love these guys these are some of my favorite guys we know all about these guys Jeff's just sitting here laughing these guys that are like oh I represent Logan Paul and it tells us that they represent the agency and they created this faux relationship oh yeah it was amazing it was the worst because I walked into Scooter Braun's office and I'm like shit and bricks because you know Scooter Braun I walked straight into his office and he's like on the phone like hangs it up aggressively I feel like I'm on the set of entourage and so this guy that told me that uh he told Scooter that he knew me and he knew that he touched on the story like so tell him about what you're working on and I'm like well what do you know about 100 thieves he's like absolutely nothing I'm like well let me start from the top so I'm just rattling off I don't even think it was coherent so then Scooter starts rattling off what he thinks we're talking about and we were just like talking past each other not on the same page I get back from that meeting and I tell my partner I'm like yeah I don't think we're like Scooter Braun is a very successful businessman but I don't think he really understands gaming and I don't think it would be a strategic investment for us to accept while we're raising money so then Scooter finds out that we declined and Scooter calls back he's like look man I want to apologize to you guys I was in the drive-thru at Chick-fil-A for 30 minutes and Scooter sat there apologizing to me because he didn't know the situation the same way I didn't know what we were talking about so then Scooter really dug into the business found out what he could help us with he connected us with Drake the next day sick he's like hey that's that Scooter Braun pool I think I know somebody that might be interested in uh in gaming he loves his face I'm like well who is it he's like Drake I'm like I went hey yeah I'd like to talk to him and so it all started with Scooter like probably one of the smartest businessmen I've ever been oh that legend it's unbelievable people took my hard time but he's a fucking genius all right so he helped you start what's next for 100 thieves uh what's next man dude I really think it's just media right you know there's so much opportunity entertainment I looked at Barstool for a lot of inspiration I think they've done a great job of being able to like incubate talent and and really jump into any business in any industry that they want to through Barstool and I think that's the next iteration of 100 thieves right like we're going to continue to create apparel we're going to try to do esports better and win some tournaments but content is king sure you guys do a great job of that I want to say thank you when you guys came out with your I think it was I follow all like when Jack joined and Jack moved in or Jack left and the production and the scripting of your videos is incredible you guys can pull it off too I think that's the thing you have that your whole group does that not a lot of uh gamers can can do when they're not streaming can you still be an on-camera personality and more so a talent you guys are like low key acting well thank you so much yeah it really means a lot yeah I love it it's it's a lot of fun dude because you get to play around be a different character we got shout out to Gabriel Reese he's like our he's an executive producer 100 thieves and he has incredible ideas that are just rattling off we've got a great team it's awesome how long have you been creating content hold on a second I that's I don't know hold on a second what that's just such a cookie cutter question I was about to go I mean it's a good question because you're like you've gone from what playing video games in your bedroom to now running a media enterprise I started uploading in 2010 okay it's a long time yeah my first year on YouTube was 2010 and you've done it all yourself editing from the beginning and then now it's a lot of people know this the whole like video game community started probably small with montages and strange little videos that people would put up with uh what are they called machinimas and machinimas yeah I mean like network and that kind of became like Kleenex and tissues yeah you're right you're right but you know what I do I love myself I grew up with that I used to edit videos for gamers and whatnot but I mean it's just it goes to show that that consistency and putting an effort over time over what 10 years now creating content is taking you a place where you now employ a ton of people to help facilitate the stuff that you want to do absolutely I think Logan's a perfect example of that too you know it's like crazy ideas let's make some videos and build a team around you're like you've done it my team's skinny though we're just talking about this like we how many employees do I don't know man we five sevens I mean I'm just beast you I'm like I look at myself I go like they're almost 30 yeah dude what is going wrong they're slept on them well I know I'm like nothing nothing you're not sleeping on them you're not dude I've heard the numbers man who's sleeping on them who the fuck is no it's sleeping on no boys I love those guys I think Toronto Star is sleeping on the no boys bro they're not they're not giving respect I want to take the opportunity to nerd out because I know that there's a lot of people watching this fucking episode for an eight shot they want to hear these questions I want to nerd out for a second I want to talk about more about Call of Duty with you what is the best Call of Duty ever created Black Ops 2 amazing amazing answer what's the second MW2 I think is like the commonly believed best title would you say yeah I mean that's like the golden age of like online video gaming fun the fun part because I agree with you I'm a black ops fanatic and just chopper going like dogs all that stuff was I think the funest part we would I would run with my crew back then and just grab as many like you could say uh care package turret and anti-aircraft and we would just fill the entire state with boxes because we would just run run house on people and just get on top of them what why has the fun do you feel like the fun level in the series has depleted a little bit uh well I think a war zone if you revitalize the entire franchise but to be honest man after I quit Call of Duty I didn't even play Infinite Warfare I may play was it Advanced no Advanced was before Infinite okay which one was Black Ops 4 I played Black Ops 4 they went on a bad run for a little while I was because I was doing work with Activision and Call of Duty brands with Love Sack we're doing branded Love Sacks and I just remember we were these titles were coming out like remember every time a new title come out this is going to be the one that changes it Activision is going to get their shit back there Infinity Ward's going to blow it out of the fucking stadium with this one and then it would drop and it would be Advanced or the Infinite and people are just starting to get to a point where they're like yo this is not good for the fucking series and you're driving a spaceship to Odin around and shooting laser beams at people the Infinite Warfare uh premiere trailer was like the most disliked video on YouTube in history yeah it passed up like a Justin Bieber video I remember that because people don't understand how much that series and that that title means to the gaming community I mean it's such a massive thing would you call the biggest would you call the biggest video game of all time Call of Duty well I mean every single year it releases it's the biggest entertainment release it's the biggest entertainment release out of all media movies included everything so we talked about that in the past what do they do like they do a billion first month generally uh I think it's like 750 million like how much of that do you think is like the pay to win stuff we had an older Call of Duty like loot boxes and whatnot well Call of Duty didn't figure out microtransactions until I think it was Advanced Warfare where they had loot boxes and it was basically paid to win because you have to open these boxes to get the best guns of the game and then that shit was not flying but now that they have Warzone you know the biggest thing I would say is that actually really fucking up because I don't they didn't realize how big Warzone was actually going to get and they were not ready for the success because the score and the customization is terrible the weapon candles dog shit the operators are all right but they could be making so much money and they already are but they could be just cashing out so much it's just wild to imagine a lot of times the headquarters down in Santa Monica yeah and or nickel Eugene shout out the brand team Activision but dude like it has been so good to see Warzone revitalize the series I love it people are going crazy and it kind of is Fortnite dead no Fortnite's not dead a lot of people still play it man I don't think Fortnite's ever gonna die and I don't actually think Fortnite really cares about what's happening to the game right now in people's public opinion because I think Fortnite's goal is much bigger than we're gonna have you jump in play a hundred man battle royale Fortnite's essentially turned into a sandbox and it's a social platform for kids not getting on just to play they're getting on hang out with their buddies and I think you're gonna see like Fortnite turn into more something like Roblox or Minecraft where you go in and create your own imagination within the Fortnite world and I think that's what's next for them I think they raised a bunch of money and Fortnite is just like a generational play not just like are people still playing it this year do you think any game has done a better job playing on culture than Fortnite no absolutely without a doubt Epic Games Fortnite they killed it I've never seen an activation like their marshmallow the list goes on it from the skins I spent probably over two thousand dollars on it I swear to god I had them all when I was streaming they fucking got you they got me good and that purchases because it's free and then you want to like show off it to your friends you're the John Wick guy and uh yeah I just I I envy the way they've innovated like no other video game has before yeah they really did well and it's it was like the beginning of making other you know other publishers and other developers do better like what I mean Fortnite what when we used to go pitch the venture funds about 100 these in esports it's like look at all of our athletes and artists and celebrities that are coming into their own and building their careers right now they're they grew up with video games and so you have all these athletes playing Fortnite I mean I'm like playing with Devin Booker on uh on Warzone dude I have Mike Trout DM me on Instagram I didn't even follow him he's like hey man you know how I unlocked a striker 45 I'm like first of all I love this this is my favorite thing to watch happen because the same thing at Back to Banks has happened with Banks yeah his hero his entire life his whole life was the Patriots and more so Tom Brady and and through through TIFU I think it was he got the ability to play uh with Tom Brady and actually have a conversation with him because his son was obsessed with TIFU and obsessed with Banks he was actually able to play with him but even also back to you know one of your partners we were at a party uh at one of uh SOS's party with Kylie and all them and me and Banks were standing in line for the bathroom and Drake walks downstairs and me and Banks are all standing there like like that like everybody else that hasn't met him before and Drake walks up to him and go and daps him up y'all it's good and Banks is like blue face like y'all what the fuck just happened like video games have permeated this culture in such a way that it's like it's mind-blowing how many of your favorite celebrities your favorite influence your favorite you know politicians whoever are playing Fortnite playing Call of Duty it's amazing to watch yeah and that was basically our thesis like 100Ds that's why it's like when you think of premier gaming brands and you play video games and you know brands within this culture it's like we want you to think of 100Ds first and Faye's doing a great job I see them as our biggest competitor NRG my buddy Hector and Andy Miller they're doing great play Hector was Optic at first yeah yeah then they got purchased and then this whole thing went down now he's part of energy yeah so it's a good guy but yeah Fortnite did the best and it broke down barriers for again it just forced other publishers to do better and that's why actors can't get their shit together and that's like half the reason why you're gonna see Infinite, Halo Infinite, go free to play it's like you might have to buy it to play the campaign but they're letting the multiplayer you can play for free Halo's never done that what do you think influenced that pushback because obviously big news this week I mean this was supposed I mean listen that was the thing that was supposed to end you know a good part of the console war that was upcoming you know and PS4 has obviously been running the fucking show lately on consoles I would say right and this was supposed to be the big Xbox you know comeback Halo's about to redrop Xbox exclusive obviously and then last night the news comes out that Halo's not coming out anymore it's not gonna be dropped until 2021 because of COVID what what what do you think now my idea is that that would be an optimal time to drop a title yeah well the problem is 343 has had a lot of issues that that's the developer that's creating Halo Infinite and they had their creative director like quit or was fired like a year ago and everyone's scratching their heads this game's supposed to be in development for the last five years what the fuck is going on and so the issue that I think happened and this is just a wild guess I think Xbox or Microsoft probably forced 343 to announce Halo Infinite early because the new Xbox doesn't have any exclusive titles so the launch is gonna be miserable in my opinion I don't know what they have that they're gonna sell with it so I just can't fathom why they would announce this new title they haven't showed us any gameplay for the last five years everybody's wondering what's going on then they announce and show us like a two minute campaign walkthrough and I'm like well what the fuck dude this is my childhood series I want you guys to recreate and let it get back to the level that it used to be at and then two weeks later you say it's pushed back to 2021 I don't know I think there's it's not good over there there's some smart people I work over there but I just can't fathom how they got to this point like how do you announce the game for the first time and say it's coming out in holiday 2020 and then you push it back yeah and a massive title and the last thing I'm gonna ask you on is like it's not the biggest title though because the most anticipated game obviously I think that people just don't understand how long these things sell for when do you think we're gonna get GTA 6 dude oh man dude they're still printing cash on GTA 5 okay so that is that is the thing that a lot of people don't know it's had their highest earning month I think in the game it's been out for like seven or eight years seven or eight years and they just had their high bro how much money has GTA 5 made I mean yeah so there's been a split with those guys so I don't know when the new one's coming out but I know that there's been a feud where it's like the owner brother they cited one brother says fuck you I'm leaving did they make a diss track they should have no what they need to do is fine screw it wrong screw it wrong fix it screw it wrong fix anything dude just like Fortnite says no screw it wrong call we do we love we love it we want to we want to see a suit man got fired oh my god yeah done he got fired they should hire him they should hire suit man not even as like a gesture like I pity you so much take my hand friend he said he said no job no life suit man you know I really do I do really like a jealous slash envy Portnoy for his confidence in getting into these strategic battles like bro bro he has made an enemy for life in so many people including suit man like bro you never know how this person's NFL you never know how these people are gonna be done in for you and they will bro they will people people that don't even know other people have nothing against people are still preying on their downfall so how do you think they're gonna act when you have you have demeaned them into a position where their life is not livable anymore like Portnoy just goes at everybody Warren Buffett the stock traders like who is he don't give a fuck the best and worst day of my life is when Dave Portnoy like six months ago roast me on Twitter oh no well back story so my girlfriend was eating Cheez-Its in bed and I've never had a Cheez-It in my life never I just don't like Cheez-It in my life I remember this I went at you I went at you about this tell the story well listen I was just trying to bust my girlfriend's balls by like tweeting out Cheez-Its are like the worst snack ever so I'm in Vegas the next day I wake up and I see my phone just lighting up and I my eyes lay on my phone and it's from day port and I say hey you seem like a successful person but you are a fucking moron you said Cheez-Its are the lowest tier snack in the world yeah are you out of your mind I've never had one either which is that one hurt me that one hurt me you gotta find Dave's reply because first of all I'm a Cheez-Its fanatic okay it's one of my oh do you want one no I'm not gonna do it here I said Nate Chuck gets revenge did you end up getting revenge I tried to follow up with a funny video where I basically put Dave Portnoy's face on my phone background and deleted his pizza app and recorded it and sent it to him he said you seem successful but you're clearly a brain-dead moron who doesn't deserve to breathe air like the rest of us Cheez-It will not be tolerated around these parts oh man and I was really hoping my reply was gonna get him reply again because I love Barstool and I think Aspirationally like it's a great north star for 100 thieves as like a media company and I love like I'm really cool with a bunch of guys over at Barstool but I want to meet Dave and I want to work with him in some way dude I'm equally obsessed we're friends with Kevin and Kyle KFC and a bunch of other guys there the only interaction I've ever had with him is remember when he was doing those he was obsessed with the unboxings and he was having all the unboxings I had a guy on the inside who gave him my clothing and he took it out he said clocked in I like this this is cool I'm clocked in I'll wear it this way and I'm like yo I'll just not interact with that ever again I'm gonna end with a dump bro hey always leave on top that's it always leave on a high what do you think about Cheeto Puffs though if you don't like if you like Cheez-Its are you talking about Cheeto Puffs now? Cheeto Puffs are the best they're very good I don't love how impossible they are to scrape out of your teeth post-consumption it's one of the worst snacks to remove from your mouth Puffs are not wearing Invisalign anyone with Invisalign knows this you gotta be careful with what you're consuming because if you put something sticky in your mouth and it's taking up space on your teeth it ruins your Invisalign setup that's tough yeah well because they'll give me crooked teeth if I have Invisalign you just go to the highway around giving yours I tried I looked into it so we got my teeth next to my two front ones were really high and I was like yo doc should I just get like fake teeth and they put me on Invisalign I'm actually hella jealous of Charli D'Amelio because she's gotten sponsored by Invisalign what an organic like I preach about Invisalign on the show how great they are but like what does Charli D'Amelio have that I don't have what like 70 million followers wait wait wait she's what's we can't do she's ran perfect case lover that you the all right fuck off a lot of reasons food is another thing that you're you're kind we were gonna do a mock bang for the night i would love to man what you've talked about in the past you're you were a shake shack guy no right you're which one was it come on fuck were you any reason no you were fine what are you saying what are you saying we had people over this too i gotta be honest with you guys listen you don't know you haven't known me that long i grew up on fast food like i mean i worked in mcdonald's for four years i've had a terrible diet for a long time i've gotten a lot healthier but burgers are fast food burgers are my thing i made like six in and out versus five guys versus what a burger versus shake shack i made like six of the videos on my channel and shake shack every time you're telling me in and out comes out in and out has the best burger shake shack has the best fries and the best shakes five guys pretty good too how does five guys not absolutely murder in and out okay let's talk about this one not for too long you guys like different styles of burgers go ahead sorry what is it no no no you're a guest i've learned this harshly over time you tell me why is in and out the fucking best burger the in and out burger itself has the perfect meat to bun to cheese ratio and i think that's where five guys and that's where shake shack goes wrong and the quality control that they have on their food my in and out burger is gonna taste the same no matter where i'm at no matter where i go shake shack half the time my burgers burnt to shit i can't go far he's like no matter where i go to where i go it's only in socal and vegas if you go to new york you can't even eat it i can't get behind okay hold on okay just a five guys burger is unprecedented it's unprecedented i've never had a fast food burger tasted that good i get that sometimes i'm quality control the cheese is a little weird on the five guys burger sometimes but you combine that with the cajun fries this is that's the important part of it we're not even talking about that's the important part of it i would even put shakes in front of him in and out is like yo if i'm hammering at 4am maybe i'll eat in and out they're only up until 2am i won't do it ninja said the other day i believe it's ninja on twitter because my top four has always gone the same shake shack five guys in and out water burger okay here's the important take on it that needs to make sense to you as he said he looks at the fry burger combo when you go for burgers the fries have to be important to you in and out loses lives with their fries people leave in and out after eating in and out fries and they divorce their wives they disown their children they give back their college degrees life doesn't make sense after you eat in and out french fries tell them you like in and out french they're made of repurposed cardboard you can't do it well they're real potatoes and they make them right in front of you if you keep them up behind the counter so they're healthy i won't do it listen i i even said that shake shack has better fries than in and out right but we're talking solely a bird no see i i got i strongly disagree i well entitled to our own wrong opinion speaking of which two more opinions one if you found hitler today would you kill him given the opportunity someone hand you a gun oh i fucking murdered okay perfect and then last one and this is another big one on the opinions page because me and courage are lying i believe you and you know where this is going he tweeted the other day that inception is a is a premium flick over interstellar which i agree with i believe that inception is one of the best written best produced movies of all time and i know that you're an interstellar fanatic i am okay so am i perfect but surely you also can appreciate i love christopher nolan i love leonardo caprio the movie was incredible but if i base my opinion off when i saw interstellar for the first time versus inception interstellar was the first movie i went and saw by myself and thank god i did because i wept like a baby like three separate times and for me just the wonderment and the idea of i have no fucking idea what's about to happen in this movie matt mcconaughey's acting the score was unbelievable just the the emotion that interstellar elicited from me throughout every moment of the movie scratch my inch of mystery space travel and incredible acting and composition of the music and the soundtrack interstellar is unequivocally better than it's best movie ever made great take best movie it's not the best movie ever made but it's definitely my top because because they always say they'll forget what you said but they'll never forget how you made them feel exactly and that's where you guys take that from but listen listen like we can do all the same shit for inception remember inception score what that made you feel like do you remember the plot oh my god i get what he's saying interstellar interstellar affects you when you leave the theater it still affects you it makes you question your entire reality on this planet yeah sure but there's a lot of movies involving mindfucks that technology doesn't exist yet so what this is like a thing that whatever the concept was an interstellar seemed like it could be a thing i remember walking out of the theater and looking up to the sky and not knowing what planet i was on or why what my entire purpose was there's a few movies i'll see more than once let alone twice i've seen uh interstellar probably five times you said the technology doesn't exist we talked about vr earlier in the show you think inception is that far off from a potential you know 10 15 year out thing where you're able to alternate you know spaces and times what interstellar no inception i mean i might chalk that one up to fully impossible forever no way that's what they said about that they said i landed on the moon one day and one day we'll have the brain mapped out we'll have the brain mapped out we'll be able to unlock the secrets of it so that's it's very funny because these two these two films deal with the two final frontiers one deals with space and one deals with the brain right and those are and there's a lot of people out there who have always said like star trek space the final frontier it's not the mind is the final frontier that we know less about than anything else we have great ideas about space we know very little about the human mind it's crazy because it's the closest thing to us it's crazy we're looking inwards we still have no idea interstellar don't let me leave murph i mean it's one of the best moments don't let me leave murph because you brought up star trek i so i'm not a big fan of star wars and i don't think modern day culture gives the first two brand new star trek movies with christopher pine enough credit there's some of my favorite movies star trek and star trek in the darkness well i can watch those movies like once every three months i'm gonna watch those they're fucking incredible hey what's wrong with dr disrespect oh yeah do you know anything do you know what happened he got banned from twitch no one knows why he doesn't even know why i don't i don't think it's possible for dr disrespect and his legal team not to know i i find i i see dr disrespect as a friend i talked to him throughout the situation i we texted here and there i think he's one of the best entertainers on the internet but i just think there is no way you sign a multi-million dollar deal with twitch on a multi-year uh term and they ban you and your legal counsel doesn't know why there's no way that there's just no communication in my mind it has to have major legal implications because you can't just renege on a deal like that like you have to be able to at least give some sort of explanation or take it as a legal matter so i think everyone's nda right now nobody's talking about it but what could be so catastrophic that also stays in the dark that's a great question and that and i just i can't i can speculate in my own mind but i just can't speculate here just because i we really have no idea it's legally sealed to his point if it's if it is a you would assume it's probably a victimless crime or called a victimless crime can you imagine if it was a conflict of business interests or something like that like yo he they found out he was starting a new channel or something like that on a different platform like who knows like to his point if there was a victim like it was a sexual thing like that girl talking if there was a if there was a you know the violence thing or he broke twitch's guidelines which we have no reason to service we have no reason to believe he did that right yeah but if it but if he broke the terms their tos they don't they wouldn't want to leave like he generates a massive business for their for them you know and it's all about it's not even about how many viewers you have on the platform how much money you're making them and doc was absolutely crushing it and just as brand as it was growing i mean i feel like he's at the highest point in his career right now so just to let him go and let him walk i don't know man it's almost like this twitch man helped him every time somebody gets banned on twitch it helps him yeah it's crazy because i knew who he was and then he got banned from twitch and he just uh was live streaming something the other day i don't even think he showed up and there were 330 000 people waiting for him to pop on the screen yeah stream the gas station yeah like an hour what's the symbolism in that do you know i'm trying to like follow the gaming community and i'm not sure like i love his kid up with a wig and a mustache and sunglasses i have no idea how he game so well wearing shades yeah that's interesting it is but what is the what's the thing what's the pull here in my mind so you so you have ninja and shroud they're not a mixer anymore you have doctor disrespect get banned and you saw ninja go live on youtube for a couple hours and in my opinion it's them going live so that their agencies and their management can then go and negotiate better like hey ninja's gonna go live on youtube and he's gonna go live on twitch and you see how much viewership you actually can still generate and that's gonna give them leverage to negotiate so in my mind i think doc was probably going live to get hype up um i don't know if youtube will actually deal with him and give him an exclusive contract but i think a lot what we saw with ninja and maybe doc it was them trying to just flex their brand and have some negotiating power it worked yeah you know he's like six seven i'm fascinated he is a fascinating personality he's a badass dude oh he was like a d2 basketball player he's good who is this guy you guys go watch his first video from 2009 because it just shows like how far ahead he actually was it's wild has he changed a lot over the years it came up on my youtube recommended today doctor disrespects first video it's the same exact character no way from day one i feel like i probably am i mean when t forgot bandit came back he was five next figure yeah sure then he's just out there smiling i don't use your hair man and it comes into like choppy modern warfare 2 like dazzle dbc 100 so just ahead of his dazzle i had the hawk hog uh i mean he did it for a long time oh yeah the hawk hog pbr yeah yeah i had the dazzle this game world is fascinating one thing i noticed about when i started streaming was uh how hard it was yeah i did not know it's one of the hardest things i've ever done just like anything you know i'm sure if i did over time i'd get better at it but when i started streaming i didn't realize how much energy was put into just sitting in front of the game because eyeballs were on you it's like they suck the life out of you there's there's gaming for an audience there's gaming for leisure and the one is exponentially harder that's probably the reason i stopped i was like this isn't for me i'm not the guy who can go on uh a platform for four or five hours straight and just constantly be entertaining that's not me yeah i completely agree with you man i struggle with that nowadays too because i used to stream full time but it was when i was competing so i had to be online anyways practice i'm not eight hours a day so i might as well stream it sure and now i get past four hours and i'm a shell myself yep yep and i go through highs the most throughout the day like my blood sugar's low i get hangry if i'm losing a tournament i get pissed off and it's just not fun to watch like i just can't like you said i can't do it for seven eight hours like i used to because i'm not always fun to be around and that's why youtube's better for me so like when i'm in a good mood i want to record it i can show people who i am when i'm in a good mood but they see every terrible facet of life but some of your most infamous clips and some of your most watch clips are ones where you're kind of showcasing that personality yeah well you're kind of not being the nicest guy right well it's like breaking controllers throwing things across the room i didn't used to but now that i'm older and uh i think i could be like i should be better yeah i'm just a really competitive person i don't like to lose and when i lose i get mad at myself hate losing all right i hate losing what i like winning i can relate to that here i'm positive for sure so you're wrestling on youtube i saw your tweet i think so yeah i think i got a lot of people chirping you know it's crazy how if you target like a niche vertical it explodes if you do it the right way because like wrestling is a pretty territorial sport in that it is a combat sport basically like i'm better than you and i think that and i'm willing to try to prove that and so yeah i tweeted that and uh it exploded i found some people that i i think would be fun to wrestle with i think people would want to see i just have to decide i want to inventize it like do i really want to do a a proper like sponsor massive uh event i don't know i just did it for a vlog but you know i got people saying straight up i'll put a hundred thousand dollars down i'll give you two hundred thousand dollars if you beat this guy there's probably over if i wrestled and beat all the opponents that came after me probably 10 people i could make half a million dollars but you some of the people you're talking about i love you and i know you're a great wrestler some of the people you've gone at in his twitter rampage people you cannot beat who you're talking about who you're talking about you posted the infamous picture of him on the ground after the mazadol fight shut up but yeah he's one of the best wrestlers in the world incredible one of the worst you've seen fighters in the world also yeah but i was with bradley martin this morning sure he wants he's 100% down for it the viewership would be there he's he's questioning it though because he's trying to figure out how much of a difference his 260 versus your 190 really makes at that point well he's got it but he's got the technique that's a lot honestly honestly what i'm probably gonna end up doing is putting is put the matches behind my maverick club paywall so i have a subscription service which is a whole beat another beast in itself i'm gonna put so much energy into that i think i'm gonna put the matches first behind the paywall and reward the people who are subscribed yeah i think it's gonna be a smart business play and bradley's gonna be one of them uh this guy from france yeah one of the biggest uh french tweets go crazy yo he's yoked too yeah he's big but you've wrestled a bear before yeah yeah he did on logan paul verse and then another animal too right alligator so like you have some experience wrestling you know viciously the masses bradley's because like the pool for wrestling's not like it's cool don't really give a fuck yeah sometimes i find myself watching like in my recommended youtube videos like olympic match wrestling videos and i'll tune in for a second for the big throws yeah for the big throws and gnarly moves yeah it's like you see kurt angle wrestling in the olympics with a broken neck on my mouth i'm sure i'm sure you're tuned into the challenger games i'm sure you're in the track and field too absolutely absolutely you know jack shot with jeff wadek for the vlog for last week and i introduced him in the vlog and uh you know the internet's number one face everybody's mr steal your girl and i get done he goes you forgot to mention i finished sixth place in the challenger because i'd like to add it in he's written on the screen i was like oh i didn't know it's so important to you i want you to send jack in when i said this wrestling thing absolutely i'll pick a day send courage in i want to wrestle him you know what my favorite part first of all i love to watch that but i think my favorite even when you uh boxed ksi and you guys and your brother doing all this boxing stuff i think my favorite part was just for so long people didn't actually know your background and that's something that always uh intrigued me like you were a state wrestler yeah that's the um people don't give you enough credit in boxing it didn't help uh at all at all sure sure like let's acknowledge it and say like he's done athletic content sports in the past but this is one of the when i say like i'm willing to put ten thousand dollars uh down to be any influencer i'd be comfortable putting a million down like i said this is the one sport where it's like like boxing you know i was kind of cat before i even was a boxer i'm like i'm a badass i'm gonna beat you up with wrestling it's like yo i've been proven to be one of the best wrestlers in the state of ohio fairly confident i'm i'm pretty sure i'm gonna beat up all these fuckers i got a kid i'm calling in don't you fucking say oh my god don't forget about gunner lay i got him on the horn no not him you got your own my two fighters i made her in uh gunner gunner lay i want 25 i i he would i don't know i would wrestle i made her if you let me uh box him right after dom gunner i'm gonna get you guys paid gunner up nah but you didn't have enough followers because you didn't dictate what the metric was fuck no that would be for me you said a youtuber influencer but yeah and your question is what if they're fighter first and they're influencer because of it because that's what i'm saying you don't want to go like one of the guys another guy called i don't even want to say his fucking name you didn't respond to him so Dylan yeah i'd rather not dude he's like a fucking waste of time doesn't it yeah never mind perfect you should wrestle dr disrespect i would love to that'd be awesome yeah i'm serious but will he do it with the get up on the costume yeah he would right sunglasses and all hey doc you wear a sling over let's let's wrestle let's do it up bro we'll live stream it on your channel i would pay to watch i would pay so much to watch that yeah oh yeah oh yeah i'm gonna wear the same stuff i wore in high school okay i'm gonna find it do us play golf i would love to man anytime yeah you should play with that guy who's been reaching out to us on twitter every day for 60 days now oh my god i saw that guy every day try to get loaded him to play golf with me he's done if i'm using it 60 every single day is his name kj what's his name i don't know but also like is he really trying like is it tweet enough that's probably not i have people that would like i'm gonna tweet you Every day with a random video Until you follow me And I'm like We have a bunch of those No you need something more Like just advice To anyone listening Who wants to get the attention Of a creator Be creative I've gotten a lot of Odd requests Like that kid Ryan from the Maverick Club He's like Yo I want to drive my car Across the United States To come to your ranch I was like That's a great fucking idea Good for you And a lot of people Have asked me afterwards Like hey can I do the same thing I'm like yo it's been done You come up with something new I as a creator Same with you And excited by fun good ideas That make me want to activate You have to stand out You have to stand out It's gotta be unique We actually had somebody Applied to be an intern And he created this entire video And later we found out That it was a yes theory project It was one of the videos That they uploaded They essentially helped This really smart kid Who did a lot of the work But they helped him Put production behind it It was the most unbelievable video And like resume That I've ever seen Like put together And it's unfortunate COVID happened And he lives in Canada So it's just tough To actually make that work But you gotta be able to stand out You know a lot of people Want to work for 100Ds Or they might ask How can I come work for you It's gotta be unique You gotta be able to Tell me what you're bringing To the table Not ask what I can do for you That's the number one thing You gotta stand out And like go watch my content Go see what I'm not doing Go see what I'm not doing well And tell me where I'm fucking up Like tell me what I can do better And how I can be more successful Respectfully Don't come across like Make sure to not denounce the creator And come with solutions One of my favorite things That Gary V said In the same vein I'm sure you guys have seen this clip Some kid goes If I do a backflip for you On stage I'll be your intern And he goes Why do I care that you can do a backflip And he says When you give With expectation in return You lose When you give With expectation in return You lose So just give Let life happen And do your fucking best And hopefully it's good enough If it's not fuck off Thanks for coming on the podcast 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