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Aug 9, 2026 57 min

E346: The Grid Ends at the Meter

from Energypreneurs Hosted by Sohail Hasnie

Bruce Nordman spent decades at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory working on demand flexibility. He returns with an argument that cuts against most of what the industry is building: the grid should stop at the meter. Everything behind it — solar, batteries, water heaters, EVs — belongs to the customer, coordinated by one mechanism: price. Not aggregators. Not cloud platforms. Not utilities micromanaging your devices. — Standards vs. platforms: what VPPs make you pay for — The case for low-voltage DC — solar is DC, batteries are DC, so why convert twice? — Why under 5% of Californian EV owners let the utility touch their charger — The Bell Labs story: how the smartest engineers alive dismissed the internet Connect with Sohail Hasnie: Facebook @sohailhasnie X (Twitter) @shasnie LinkedIn @shasnie ADB Blog Sohail Hasnie YouTube @energypreneurs

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