E68|手握电力的加密矿工,会是AI时代的“淘金卖水人”吗? episode artwork

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E68|手握电力的加密矿工,会是AI时代的“淘金卖水人”吗?

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之前我们讲美国数据中心基建时,嘉宾很多观点和数据都在播客发出来之后一一被市场验证,比如微软CEO萨提亚·纳德拉称,AI缺的不是GPU是电力。 那期节目中我们梳理了AI巨头们各自找电的路径,最早转型AI的矿工CoreWeave,不仅崛起为云算力租赁的龙头,更将一种高杠杆、高风险的金融玩法带入这个赛道。本期节目我们将关注AI基建的四种常规路径与两种非常规路径,以及一股潜伏已久的关键力量——加密矿工。 另外,我们也会从资本市场的角度,聊聊AI基建的钱从哪儿来,是否正在酝酿一场席卷整个行业的投资泡沫? 本期节目为《硅谷101》与《Web3 101》串台节目。 【主播】 泓君,硅谷101创始人,播客主理人 【嘉宾】 郑迪,前沿科技投资人(知识星球:22136749) 【赞助商】 本期节目由开源硬件钱包OneKey赞助播出。硬件钱包是保护加密资产最有效的方式之一。加密世界是黑暗森林,每个人都该为自己的资产负责。物理隔离的硬件钱包,能更好保护助记词不被盗窃。 访问OneKey官网购买开源硬件钱包,使用折扣码「web3101」可享受95折优惠。 【你将听到】 能源危机下的电力绿洲 03:04 摩根士丹利估算,比特币矿工转产可在未来的两年释放15Gw 05:08 另外三条解决AI能源问题的常规路径(核能,燃气,储能) 10:05 两条有难度的“非常规”路径(训练外迁,柴油) 12:19 市场疑问:“挖矿电”能变成稳定可靠的“AIDC电”吗? 14:34 未来两年能否攻克B端,成为AI大基建能否持续的关键 16:43 1Gw数据中心500亿美元成本拆解 19:23 当前估值低于建造成本,矿工转型缺乏动力 复刻地产融资游戏 22:54 矿工转AI的两种模式:“卖电/租场地”和“买GPU卖算力” 24:58 Iris Energy:举债买卡的冒险家,困于“重资产”估值陷阱 29:34 生态为王:英伟达的“总包”霸权与AMD的“付费入场” 31:29 未来收益证券化+滚动开发,AI基建越来越像房地产 25:54 GPU证券化:底层资产是“AI金矿”还是“科技次贷”? 37:03 诺贝尔经济理论也出错?亲历者复盘当年的金融理论失误 40:17 AI产业链已经形成了“铁索连环”的金融风险 42:47 大厂策略:在高评级市场发债+打造“大而不能倒”格局+与国家战略捆绑 44:10 AI大基建的“终极买单者”——全球债券市场 浪潮中的转型博弈 48:31 行为金融学的囚徒困境:不惜代价搏一张AI船票 52:37 OpenAI的黄金上市时机:2026年上半年 56:34 加密矿场转AI,缺电及算力闲置仍是最大风险 62:24 比特小鹿:处于地缘政治的“灰色地带” 69:19 挖矿转AI成功的公司,都不是挖矿赛道的“优等生” 70:30 两种矿工:囤算力的(如Mara)vs 囤电力的(Iris) 74:43 矿工转型的最优解:挖矿保现金流,闲置电力滚动开发AIDC 76:49 比特币价格与AIDC转型,并非简单的线性关系 【节目中提到的相关公司和术语】 播客中提到的加密矿工: Applied Digital Core Scientific CleanSpark Riot Platforms Cipher Mining Galaxy Digital IREN 比特小鹿/Bitdeer Hut 8 Marathon Digital(MARA) Crusoe Energy Wulf 其他公司: CoreWeave Nebius Oklo GE Vernova (GEV) Blue Energy Anthropic Blue Owl Capital 金融术语: ATM(At-the-Market Offering ,按市价发行/增发) ABS(Asset Backed Securitization,资产支持证券) CDO(Collateralized Debt Obligation,担保债务凭证) REIT(Real Estate Investment,房地产投资信托) 【风险声明】 本期节目不构成任何投资建议,投资有风险,入市需谨慎。 本期节目参与者也均不持有节目中提到的股票。 【后期】 AMEI 【运营】 朱婕 【BGM】 Mumbai - Ooyy First Horizon - ELFL 【在这里找到我们】 收听渠道:苹果|小宇宙 海外用户:Apple Podcast|Spotify|Google Podcast|Amazon Music 联系我们:[email protected] Guest: 郑迪.

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