E69 Bruce chats with Sheila M. Beckford and E. Michelle Ledder

On today's Episode of BRC and Friends, Bruce sits down with Sheila M. Beckford and E. Michelle Ledder Co-Authors of the 4Reals series, “Anti-Racism 4reals: Real Talk with Real Strategies in Real Time for Real Change” and “Doing Anti-Racist Business: Dislodging and Dismantling Racism with the 4reals”. Not only do we talk about how their process of moving organizations to be antiracist is different than the approach of DEI, but they also talk about their very funny origin story, parents dancing on TikTok, and so much more. They obviously had a great time, and you will too!Thanks for being here. Grab a beverage, pull up a chair, and enjoy listening to the conversation with Sheila M. Beckford and E. Michelle Ledder.JUST BUY THEIR BOOKS ALREADYDoing Anti-Racist Business: Dislodging and Dismantling Racism with the 4realshttps://bookshop.org/a/82176/9780827206816Anti-Racism 4reals: Real Talk with Real Strategies in Real Time for Real Changehttps://bookshop.org/a/82176/9780827201026CONNECT WITH SHEILASheila on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/sheila.beckford/CONNECT WITH MICHELLEMichelle on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/emichelleledder/LISTEN TO BRC & FRIENDSListen to the full episodes of BRC & Friends here:https://brc-friends.captivate.fmListen to BRC & Friends wherever you listen to Podcastshttps://brc-friends.captivate.fm/listenCONNECT WITH BRC & FRIENDSBRC & Friends Websitehttps://www.brcandfriends.com/BRC & Friend on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/brcandfriendsBruce Reyes-Chow, Host and Producer on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/breyeschowCo-Host, Jorge Bautista on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/curious_xicanoCo-Host, Laura Mariko Cheifetz on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/lauramarikocheifetzCo-Host, Amy Kim Kyremes-Parks on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/kyremesparksCo-Host, Micky Scottbey Jones on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/electric_lady_msjTheme Music by Merissa Magdael-Lauronhttps://www.instagram.com/merissa.cre8sRecorded using Squadcasthttps://squadcast.fm/?ref=brucereyeschow1Edited using Descript This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit theamalgamation.substack.com/subscribe