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EPISODE · Oct 7, 2025 · 48 MIN

E74: We Have Never Been Woke: A Conversation with Musa al-Gharbi

from The Amalgamation with Bruce Reyes-Chow

🎙 The Amalgamation: Episode 74🔎 At-a-Glance SummaryIn this episode, host Bruce Reyes-Chow speaks with Musa al-Gharbi about his book, We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite. The conversation dives into wokeness, race, education, and politics, challenging the gap between elite progressive rhetoric and the lack of material change for marginalized groups. Expect a balance of sobering insights and witty exchanges.✨ Episode HighlightsWhy the term "wokeness" often refers to the symbolic performance of activism rather than substantive policy reform.The function of cultural contradictions within elite institutions, and how they neutralize true social justice movements.A critical look at the role of politics and education in perpetuating the very systems they claim to be critiquing.Musa's perspective on what a truly "woke" or equitable society would actually prioritize.✊🏽 About Our Guest/sMusa al-Gharbi (Sociologist, Stony Brook University)Musa al-Gharbi is a sociologist in the School of Communication and Journalism at Stony Brook University. His first book, We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite, is out now with Princeton University Press. His second book, Those People, is scheduled for release in late 2026 with Princeton University Press. Musa's Substack, Symbolic Capital(ism), explores themes that cut across both books.In this episode, Musa joins Bruce to discuss the core arguments of We Have Never Been Woke, examining the gap between stated progressive ideals and their practical, often contradictory, outcomes within influential institutions.📬 Connect with the GuestsWebsite: https://musaalgharbi.com/Newsletter: https://musaalgharbi.substack.com/Bluesky: @musaalgharbi.bsky.social🔗 Episode Links & ResourcesMusa al-Gharbi's book: We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New EliteAnnouncement for Musa's second book: Those PeopleMusa al-Gharbi's Substack: Symbolic Capital(ism)The book's paperback release date is October 8th.Beyond the Easiest CasesAlienated America by Timothy Carney🏷️ Tags / Hashtags#TheAmalgamationPodcast #WeHaveNeverBeenWoke #Wokeness #MusaAlGharbi #CulturalContradictions #SocialJustice #Politics #PodcastLife🎧 The Amalgamation PodcastHosted by Bruce Reyes-Chow, The Amalgamation is a podcast about people doing good in the world, exploring faith, justice, and the messy beauty of humanity. Be sure to subscribe to, rate, and review The Amalgamation Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. The Amalgamation Podcast Team: Emmie Hix (Producer), Dessiree McFarland (Editor), Merisssa Magdael-Lauron (Music). For all show inquiries, contact [email protected]🎙️ Your Host, Bruce Reyes-ChowBruce Reyes-Chow is a 3rd Generation Filipino/Chinese American and an active speaker, writer, and coachsultant on topics of faith, leadership, activism, culture, race, and technology. An ordained minister in the Presbyterian Church (USA), he is the author of six books, most recently Everything Good about God is True: Choosing Faith. He and his wife live in San Jose, CA, with too many animals and houseplants.💌BRC Website and Newsletter📚BRC Bookshop Bookstore🔗BRC on BlueSky🔗BRC on Instagram🔗BRC on Tiktok🔗BRC on YouTube

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🎙 The Amalgamation: Episode 74🔎 At-a-Glance SummaryIn this episode, host Bruce Reyes-Chow speaks with Musa al-Gharbi about his book, We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Contradictions of a New Elite. The conversation dives into wokeness, race,...

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