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EPISODE · Jan 29, 2026 · 1H 13M

Economic Boom? Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent Joins the Progrum

from Ruthless Podcast · host Josh Holmes, Comfortably Smug, Michael Duncan and John Ashbrook

🎙️ The fellas sit down with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent for a wide-ranging conversation that hits policy, politics, and the pure theater of the moment. We talk through what Trump Accounts are built to do—seed money, compounding, and a real push toward financial literacy—plus how the private sector and states may stack on top of it. We also get into the broader economic pitch: growth, inflation, deficits, and why Bessent thinks the private sector is about to do the heavy lifting. 💰 Then we sprint to catch up with Senator Ted Cruz after President Trump riffs—very publicly—about Cruz as a possible Supreme Court pick. Cruz gives us a definitive answer, explains why he doesn’t want the robe, and lays out how he sees his role in the middle of policy fights instead. We also get the behind-the-scenes origin story of Trump Accounts—from a late-night Vegas poker table to drafting the provision that ends up in the bill.️ 👑 After the interviews, we talk through what we heard, what it signals for the midterm conversation the fellas are building toward, and we get into listener comments on early Senate predictions. We close it out with our Thursday staple, King of the Hill, where Cheri Jacobus takes on champion Steve Schmidt. 00:00 — Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent 03:16 — What Trump Accounts are and why the media isn’t covering it 09:18 — Smug’s big announcement 10:34 — Markets, compounding, and why this is meant to change behavior 14:22 — Davos: what happened with Gavin Newsom 23:32 — Fraud, NGOs, and “benefits turned into business” 31:19 — What “too small to succeed” means 33:32 — Smug’s baby news 44:15 — Trump’s Cruz riff: Supreme Court chatter goes public 45:35 — Ted Cruz on possible SCOTUS nom 59:18 — King of the Hill Subscribe for more unfiltered conservative commentary, interviews with top leaders, and laughs! Hit that like button if you're ready for America's comeback. #RuthlessPodcast #ScottBessent #TedCruz #TrumpAccounts #EconomicBoom #SupremeCourt #maga Our Sponsors: ➢We need to stand with President Trump in his fight against big insurance companies. Learn more: https://www.americansforopengovernment.com/ ➢Tell Congress year-round E15 is long overdue. https://fieldsoffreedomalliance.com/ ➢Unleash American energy to be bigger and better than ever before, because when America builds, America wins. https://permittingreformnow.org/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

🎙️ The fellas sit down with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent for a wide-ranging conversation that hits policy, politics, and the pure theater of the moment. We talk through what Trump Accounts are built to do—seed money, compounding, and a real push toward financial literacy—plus how the private sector and states may stack on top of it. We also get into the broader economic pitch: growth, inflation, deficits, and why Bessent thinks the private sector is about to do the heavy lifting. 💰 Then we sprint to catch up with Senator Ted Cruz after President Trump riffs—very publicly—about Cruz as a possible Supreme Court pick. Cruz gives us a definitive answer, explains why he doesn’t want the robe, and lays out how he sees his role in the middle of policy fights instead. We also get the behind-the-scenes origin story of Trump Accounts—from a late-night Vegas poker table to drafting the provision that ends up in the bill.️ 👑 After the interviews, we talk through what we heard, what it signals for the midterm conversation the fellas are building toward, and we get into listener comments on early Senate predictions. We close it out with our Thursday staple, King of the Hill, where Cheri Jacobus takes on champion Steve Schmidt. 00:00 — Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent 03:16 — What Trump Accounts are and why the media isn’t covering it 09:18 — Smug’s big announcement 10:34 — Markets, compounding, and why this is meant to change behavior 14:22 — Davos: what happened with Gavin Newsom 23:32 — Fraud, NGOs, and “benefits turned into business” 31:19 — What “too small to succeed” means 33:32 — Smug’s baby news 44:15 — Trump’s Cruz riff: Supreme Court chatter goes public 45:35 — Ted Cruz on possible SCOTUS nom 59:18 — King of the Hill Subscribe for more unfiltered conservative commentary, interviews with top leaders, and laughs! Hit that like button if you're ready for America's comeback. #RuthlessPodcast #ScottBessent #TedCruz #TrumpAccounts #EconomicBoom #SupremeCourt #maga Our Sponsors: ➢We need to stand with President Trump in his fight against big insurance companies. Learn more: https://www.americansforopengovernment.com/ ➢Tell Congress year-round E15 is long overdue. https://fieldsoffreedomalliance.com/ ➢Unleash American energy to be bigger and better than ever before, because when America builds, America wins. https://permittingreformnow.org/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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