EPISODE · Apr 6, 2026 · 57 MIN
Economic Occupancy Explained
from The Gray Report Podcast · host Spencer Gray
In this episode of the Gray Report, we sit down with Gray Capital’s newest Asset Manager, Matt Sulkowski, to break down one of the most overlooked metrics in multifamily investing: economic occupancy.We dive into:The difference between physical vs. economic occupancyWhere “leakage” actually happens in a propertyHow small operational changes can unlock millions in valueWhy Midwest markets—especially Indianapolis—are seeing strong migration trendsPlus, Matt shares his unique journey from Big Four accounting to private equity to building and exiting a cannabis business—and how that experience shapes his approach to asset management today.If you’re an investor, operator, or just curious about real estate fundamentals, this is a must-listen.
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In this episode of the Gray Report, we sit down with Gray Capital’s newest Asset Manager, Matt Sulkowski, to break down one of the most overlooked metrics in multifamily investing: economic occupancy.We dive into:The difference between physical vs. economic occupancyWhere “leakage” actually happens in a propertyHow small operational changes can unlock millions in valueWhy Midwest markets—especially Indianapolis—are seeing strong migration trendsPlus, Matt shares his unique journey from Big Four accounting to private equity to building and exiting a cannabis business—and how that experience shapes his approach to asset management today.If you’re an investor, operator, or just curious about real estate fundamentals, this is a must-listen.
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