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EPISODE · Dec 16, 2025 · 55 MIN

Ed Juline on How Michael Saylor and Strategy Keep Beating TradFi at Its Own Game

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In this episode, we sit down with Ed Juline, President of Bitcoin Treasuries Media and advisor to Arcadia₿, to break down how Bitcoin treasuries are reshaping corporate finance and why Strategy continues to outperform traditional financial models.Ed shares his journey from early Bitcoin adoption to working closely with Strategy, explains how preferred shares unlock fixed-income capital for Bitcoin, and why Saylor’s approach keeps adapting while TradFi struggles to price Bitcoin risk.We cover:- Why Bitcoin treasuries aren’t a get-rich-quick scheme- How Strategy keeps beating TradFi without breaking the rules- The role of preferred shares, cash reserves, and credit ratings- Why small treasury companies can outperform over time- How Bitcoin is crossing the chasm into institutional adoption- The real risks (and misconceptions) around Bitcoin treasury strategies- Why short-term price action misses the bigger picture00:00 Introduction: Ed Juline06:42 What is a Bitcoin company? Tesla vs Strategy debate09:08 Bitcoin fragmentation: treasuries, Lightning, privacy & politics11:55 Why Bitcoin treasuries face backlash (FTX, Celsius scars)13:06 Bitcoin Treasuries Media: events, podcast & advisory mission16:20 Global Bitcoin conferences & regional adoption differences20:29 Arcadia B explained: Mexico’s Bitcoin services + treasury model24:43 Early-stage treasuries: why small BTC balance sheets can win26:05 Strategy’s treasury prerequisites & zombie company warning30:17 Treasury companies to watch & what separates strong operators34:12 Strategy’s cash reserves, preferreds & TradFi adaptation39:14 Does Strategy know something we don’t? How BTC buys are decided42:43 Preferred shares: unlocking fixed income for Bitcoin exposure45:45 Why credit rating agencies struggle to value Bitcoin treasury companies48:49 Bitcoin adoption crossing the chasm (early majority phase)52:38 Market outlook: the “drunk raccoon” Bitcoin cycle54:37 Where to follow Ed Juline & Bitcoin Treasuries MediaBig thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81Follow our Guest:- Ed Juline: https://x.com/ejuline- Tim Kotzman: https://x.com/timkotzman- Bitcoin Treasuries: https://www.youtube.com/@timkotzman8925- Bitcoin Treasuries Media: https://x.com/BTCDigitalConf- Bitcoin Treasuries Media: https://bitcointreasuries.media/- MadBitcoin Summit: https://madbitcoinsummit.com/DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.Thank you for listening!Follow us on:- X: https://x.com/OneChairPod-Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@OneChairPod

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