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But then I said, okay, what do you want to say to Dad? And this is my favorite thing that he said. He said, boys rule the world. Ha ha ha ha.
You say that to him? Oh my God, he literally said that word. That's hilarious. Yeah, we say that.
What do you say to him? I'm just like, it's the dudes man. It's at the house. Dude's rule.
No, that's literally what he said to me. It's the first time I've ever seen you be a TV director. Absolutely. And you might clap her now.
And you threw it to me. I was there. I was like, welcome to the show. I'm live.
And we've got a new friend here from the gentle barn. Hello. Well, you're your old friends with at least one member of the Ellis household, but you're our new friend, Ellie Lax. How's it going?
Good. So happy to be here. You became friendly with Jason's son. Last telepathically, last night.
I did. We had a great conversation. But we're getting ahead of things. Yeah, this is very exciting to me because, you know, I'm like, how do you do that?
But I'm one of those people that I talk to my animals. They're my family. Like I've always been an animal person. So I think I'm some people think I'm weird, but I would think people would think you're even weirder because you talk to animals telepathically.
I'm just like, I think rumble bean likes me. I think we're I think we're besties. That's as far as I can go. I can't exactly say it's a what he's saying.
I don't know what he's saying, but you can you talk to animals and you hear them talk back. Yeah. And I I would venture to say that you and I are a lot more similar than different because I would venture to say that you are way more intuitive than you think you are because you talk to them, which is awesome. You're my kind of weird and you can feel what they're saying, maybe not logically, but you know when there's something wrong, you know, when someone's agitated, you know, when someone's like wanting to be fed.
So there you go. That's all animal communication is. It's just that I'm saying it out loud. Obviously you're going to turn in and look at Jason when you talk to me, just move the mic a little bit closer to your.
Oh, yeah, right. You got the bad. I'm sorry. OK.
What do you figure out because I you hear when you talk to animals. Are you hearing words? Yeah, animals talk to me on videos, pictures and words. So they show me scenes.
They show me snapshots and I can hear their voice. Wow. Why don't we get to have things a little bit? Why don't we start from the start?
How would you describe what the gift that you have or what it is that you're able to do? Well, so animal communication is intuition. And we all have it, even though our society doesn't really acknowledge it, but we've all had those experiences where the phone rings and before looking at color ID, we know who it is or those experiences where someone's talking to us. And even though they're smiling and saying the right things they hear on the back of our neck are standing up because we know something's wrong or we want to go down a certain road and something tells us don't do it.
Right. So that's just intuition. We all have it. Some of us listen more than others.
Mm-hmm. Do you feel you are particularly intuitive when it comes to humans? I think I'm intuitive overall. OK.
But ever since I was a very small child, right, I have been able to hear what animals are saying. OK. So that's the next question. Was there an aha moment?
Was it a growing realization? Were you thinking everybody else could hear what the animals were thinking? Aha, doctor do a little. Exactly.
So I I heard animals and spoke to animals since I was a very small child. And I just assumed everyone else did. The aha moment for me was not realizing that I did it. The aha moment for me was realizing that other people didn't.
And I found that completely unexplainable. Like I remember an elementary school going, wait, you can't hear him? So now to Jason's question, are you hearing little adorable little voices or what is the nature of the communication? So analysts talk to me in videos, pictures and words.
So they literally show me videos. I can see scenes like their memories. Yeah, they'll show me scenes of like somebody at a beach or getting ahead of ourselves. But rumble show me cuddling up to you like they literally show me scenes that I can see in my mind.
Not in a way like this house didn't look familiar to you from the inside. I didn't ask him for a tour of the house, but I could have and then it would have looked familiar, but I didn't ask it. So you could like rub music. No.
I use my gift for good. So what kind of voice does he have? He just sounds like a bro. Like he sounds like a dude.
Like not a young boy, but not like an old man. He just sounds like a dude. Like he just he's just a boy and he's so sweet. What is the most shocking thing an animal has ever told you?
Wow. A straight away animal showed me that they were murdered. Oh, I was talking to an animal. Wait, a ghost of an animal.
I talked to animals who have transitioned. So I talked to animals on the other side. No way. Yeah.
And so this woman asked me to speak to her cat, sent me a picture, sent me the cat's name and how long they had them and how long she lived. Didn't know anything about the woman or the cat went into the reading. The cats were laying all these memories and messages sounded like a normal household. And then all of a sudden the cat showed me that he was murdered and she and she showed me how.
Yeah. So it was shocking, but it was also really devastating to then have to relay that to the. They had no idea. They knew that the cat died.
She suspected foul play on behalf of her ex boyfriend. But it was the boyfriend. Yeah, it always is. Yeah.
Is it? Well, I just mean like, like, like, like, like, well, not in your case. Well, like abduction and stuff like that. Like we're all as a parent.
We're like so afraid of people, you know, creepy little strangers lurking in the park. It's always very close to you. Yeah. 90% of the time.
Yeah. That nature is somebody close to you. Yeah. I mean, definitely the first aspect right now.
When you told a lady, did she was she incredibly surprised? Or she was like, he seemed like he would. That sounds like a word. It was very validating.
But she had a lot of guilt and regret associated with that. Alone with him and it completely ruined her life. And so we did many other sessions with the cat teaching this woman how to forgive and how to move on and how to own who she is and how to say it's not her fault. No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no. God, no, no. She had already broken up by the time I talked to the cat. But just knowing for sure that that's what happened.
She had so much like, how did I let this happen? It's my fault. And so the cat kept saying, no, it's not your fault. There are things in the universe that we're not going to understand.
There are contracts between me and him that you will not understand. We just need to leave it be. It is not your fault. And you need to forgive him.
Was the cat's message. Wow. Yeah. So animals, I mean, to fix for an animal to say forgive him, that's pretty.
You know, like if you murder me and then you can talk to me as ghost me and somebody murdered me me saying forgive that guy. I mean, it's for I get it because I've had a lot of things happen to me that are unforgivable, but I forgive them because I know if I don't forgive them, I can't move on. But that took a lot of intelligence for me to understand that that's the only way I'm going to move past it. But an animal knows that.
Yeah, animals definitely know that. But I think this cat not only obviously wanted this woman to be able to be whole forgiven move on with her life. But I also the cat was saying that there was a contract between her and this guy. And she was the girl, the girl, the man.
No, the cat. No, the cat was going to get him in the spirit world when he died. No, no, she was saying that there was a life contract that was made between the cat and this young man with things that needed to happen in his life that she is not going to be able to understand and she needs to just trust. Have you ever told a dumb cat or a dumb dog where they're staying suffering like this guy's an idiot?
He doesn't know what he's talking about. No, no, I've never called an animal an idiot. You don't know me. Like, OK, better word for it.
Not what sort of range of intelligence do you experience? You know what? It's the exact same as humans, right? We all meet people that we click immediately with and we could talk for hours.
Other people that might be a little awkward and we have to ask a lot of questions to get them to open up and other people that quite frankly we don't really connect with but can still talk to. Same thing. If you met dogs that you don't like, I would I will never say I don't like them. But there are ones that I click more with.
OK, that's very diplomatic. All right. She handled that well. How do you handle the question of skepticism towards what you do and the ability you claim to possess?
I really understand it because look, when we're kids in kindergarten, we are not taught to listen to our intuition. We're taught to sit down, shut up and follow the rules of someone else. If anything, we're taught against our intuition. So our religion, right, our homes of origin, like they don't support intuition in our culture.
So I completely understand why the skepticism. But if you look at Aboriginal cultures, Native cultures, the animal kingdom, they're all using intuition. So it's a part of us whether or not it's been dumbed out of us. And it's something that we can return to whenever we want.
OK, and I never lost it. So I feel really lucky. So let's talk about what you've done in the last 24 hours. Yeah, let's do this.
So we just took me honestly took me a couple of email exchanges before I fully internalized that you just assumed you needed to be in person with the animal or you needed a picture or you I thought we were going to zoom as insane as that sounds I thought we were going to zoom. But you we can just give if I told you, hey, connect with my dog. Obviously, I'm not going to ask you to do that right now. You don't know where my dog is or what my dog looks like, but you could find my dog.
No, I need a picture. OK. But it's animal communication works stronger and better when it's remote, because when I'm in front of an animal, my intuition is working, but so are my eyes and my brain. OK.
And then my brain gets involved with what my brain is seeing and my brain is perceiving and intuition has nothing to do with my brain. I want to do it at home when I know nothing about this animal. All I ask is a picture, the animal's name, the animal's gender, how long you've had the animal and who they live with. That's all I want to know.
And I literally like people try to give me more information. I'm like, please stop because I don't want my brain involved. I want my brain to shut up and I want the intuition and that animal to speak to me. I get it.
Yeah. All right. So with all that having been said, what did Rumbel say? Yeah.
So I spoke to Rumbel last night in the privacy of my own home with a picture of him. And you've got a lot of notes. I've got a lot of notes. So let's see.
First of all, when I connected with him, introduced myself and asked permission to speak with him, he came through very alive, very fun. He has a very sparkly kind of big personality. So then I always start with what are their favorite things to do to try to connect with them, get to know them, and then kind of we move on to more personal and intimate details afterwards. OK.
Now, when they show me their favorite things, they might show me things they do all the time or something that he literally only did once, but meant something to him. He might show me things that he does now or things that he did when he was younger. But everything that I'm about to tell you is his perspective, his point of view, his experience and the way he sees himself in the world. OK.
All right. So I asked him his favorite things so I can get to know him. He showed me just kind of walking around quietly and sweetly, kind of going around the house, finding things to do and things to play with. He showed me that he likes to use his pot to kind of swap the other cats tail playfully.
Yeah. He likes to do that with the other cat's tail. This is with a big tongue. He said he likes to curl up with you very snugly and sweetly.
Yeah. He said that he really likes to sleep with you and he's a little bit on the possessive side. Yeah. OK.
He showed me being at a window and kind of jumping up with both paws, playful and curious. He's got a big playful side. He does want to go outside, but he has been outside accidentally because he's white and hairless. So he'll burn.
And one time it was windy like it is today and it was another house and I had to work and I came back and the wind had blown the bedroom doors open and shut the bedroom door. So the only thing he was outside by himself and I would never let him outside by himself because I don't want to get lost or hurt or anything. And when I came home, he had come back in the bedroom. So he was outside long enough to get some burn.
He's back with some burn and he was back in the bedroom talking to me and I could. It's funny because he's like, I was out all day. I got burnt and I was like, I see what you're saying, but I remember thinking, but you came in. You came back in because it was, I just figured he'd be like, see you.
You know, like freedom, but he had enough and come back in the house. So it was kind of impressive. Yeah, I'm glad he ended up okay. Yeah, I think he loves being out there.
But if I take him out there too much, then he wants me to take him out there all the time. And I'm like, I can't, I don't feel comfortable him being out there for a long period of time. No, you're absolutely right. You're a good dad.
He's not he is not equipped for the world at all. You're really good with words saying things nicely. I'm just mean. I'm like, I use all kinds of like he will die.
He's useless, but yes, not equipped. That's better. I asked him just to keep the conversation going. I asked him what was his favorite food.
He showed me eating crunchy kibble and kind of laying at the bowl, like laying over the bowl and just eating one piece at a time. He showed me eating soft cat food and kind of licking it and eating it very, very yummy. He refers to a soft food as a treat instead of food, which is interesting. Yeah, it is.
I mean, there was a time there where I was given it to him three times a day. It was very expensive. And then when I rescued these other two cats, I was like, I can't afford to just give everybody this kind of thing. So now it's more of a fancy feast.
Yeah, he gets it. Well, no, I don't give you fancy feasts because that's not good. I give him like it's expensive. It's like I need it.
Like I don't want to eat it because I don't it's like cat food, but the meat, it's meat, like good shredded chicken, where I'm like, if it didn't have whatever oil thing that cat people like, but it's like the protein side of it. I know what it is. And look, I see what's in there and that is chicken, all things chicken. So yeah, he he really does.
I know. Let's see. I asked him to show me his relationship with toys. Like if it does, you have a favorite toy or game and he's showing me using his pot to move things playfully and kind of basically turn everything into a toy.
He likes to knock things off the table. Yeah. Lighters, anything on the table that's movable. Yeah.
I love that. I asked him what was his favorite and he said he showed me the image of somebody. I don't know if it's you or someone else, but they have like something in their hands and they're playing with him and he's kind of playing and trying to catch it with them and he loves that interaction. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, I got to do that more now. There was a feather on a string. Oh, nice.
Yeah, he really likes that. So I asked him about his relationship with the other cats. He said he does not like the other cats with you on the bed at night. Oh, it's not like it.
Spacing. But he is okay with them in the house. And then I said, you know, show me more about your relationship. He's like, yeah, we're good.
I'm okay with them. And he showed me being very curious and kind of watching them following them around. Yeah. All right.
So then I asked him to show me his relationship with the dogs. He said they are very, very loud. He said that he's still figuring them out. He said, I'm still figuring out the dogs.
They're very loud. He said they're not as relaxed and Zen as he prefers. He did show that there are times where they settle down and sleep a lot. And he said, that's really good.
He likes it when they're sleeping. He does not like their noises. He does not like their noises. It hurts his ears.
Like, oh my God, why don't they shut up? Like he just really wants them to be quiet. We're both thinking the same thing. Yes.
Yeah. So then I asked his relationship with you and he loves to lay next to you. He loves to play with that toy with you. He loves to crawl up next to you on the couch.
He showed me being on the counter when you're in the kitchen. He says that you stay busy, but he's okay with it. Like he just being next to you is good enough for him, which is really cool. I want you to know because I have a fair amount of animals that do complain that their people are on the phone or they're at work or they're looking at the computer and they're like, look at me.
Just look at me. He's like, you do your thing. I just want to be with you. So he's very generous.
I feel like there might be something sort of self-selecting about the people who reach out to you. It seems to me that a lot of kids and a lot of animals take on a lot of characteristics. Like they're giving back what they're getting from their owner. And if you have a person that's like too obsessed with, is my cat happy?
The sort of person who might actually, you know, if it's their own money to reach out to a pet psychic, I could easily see where there'd be a lot of neurotic people who end up having some animals, some pets that have some neurotic traits in that. People wouldn't reach out to you because their dog is like, okay, fine. Pretty much a standard dog. They would reach out to you because it was something maybe a little off or concerning about that.
Well, so first of all, I do want to say yes, of course I talk to neurotic people, animals, because people, you know, just are different. Yes. But I do want to surprise you by saying you would be surprised by how many people just do readings as their animals birthday. Okay.
There's nothing wrong. They're just like, it's their birthday. And I want to hear what they have to say. Mm hmm.
Yeah. How do people find you out of people come to what you do? Well, I think a lot of people know about the General Barn. I'm the founder of an animal sanctuary where we save animals and I think a lot of people find me that way.
And then I don't know. I have my own social media that people follow and word of mouth. And a lot of people are like, oh my God, they just talk to my dog. You have to do that for your animal than they do.
Yeah. We'll talk more about the gentle barn anyway, back to the reading. Okay. Let's see.
I, when I'm doing a reading for an animal, I always at some point during the reading give them the floor because I'm asking questions and they're answering, but there might be something that they want to say that I would never seem to ask. Like remember, we were talking about the cat that was murdered? Yeah. I would never think to ask that.
Right? Yeah. Right. So, um, right now in the reading when I was talking to rumble, I asked him, give me three more things I can know about you and it could be anything.
He said that he is not a big fan of grooming himself because his tongue feels rough on his own skin. Yeah. He's got a rougher tongue than your average cat. For sure.
He can, when I first got him, I fell asleep and he licked the side of my hand and I didn't realize I got up and I had to go get on a plane. And I was like, how did I burn myself? And then it's scapped up. And then I got another one on the other side and I was telling my friend, I was like, I think I have, um, stigmata, stigmata, because I didn't understand how I had burns on my hand.
So he, if he licks a spot for too long, it will be a hole. Wow. And, and the other two cats, they've had one bath. He's had, at one point, he's clean or nail since they've been here.
I don't know what that is all about, but he at one point needed a bath every second day. Wow. Yeah. And he was not a fan, but he also understands that it's got to be done.
So he lets me do it. But the other two, man, that's another reason why they haven't been watched that much. That is not an easy task to get there in the bath. Yeah.
Right. They're sort of notorious for that. They're sort of notorious for that. Yeah.
They're talking about something with the cat and the bathtub. Yeah, let's not do that. He's just one of many people who have noted it's very hard to put a cat in a bathtub. That's all.
Yeah. But yes, he does have an exceptionally rough tongue. Many people who have been buying her a good batch for that. Yeah.
If you let him lick it, he'll open you up. He'll drop it. Yeah. Yeah.
He literally said like my tongue feels like a good reason for being dirty because he's a dirty guy because he can cleanse up from the makes told us. The second thing that he told me that he likes it when it's warm, he does not like the cold. Yep. And then the third thing that he says is he likes to rub his face on you.
Yep. I like it. We do it to each other all the time. That's so cool.
I asked him to show me his body and my body so that I could feel in my body what he feels in his. His body feels great. But oh, he has bionic eyes. I love looking through cat eyes because they have vision that is not like ours.
He like it's like X-ray bionic vision. It's really cool. And he says he has very sensitive hearing. And that's why the dogs like it just like it hurts his ears from the dog's bark.
I asked him what he wants. He says he wants kisses on his head. You kiss him on head? Yeah.
He wants more. He says he wants more. You know, just keep it coming with the play time and cuddle time with you. He wants the dogs to be quiet.
He wants the lay next to you on the bed. He wants more wet food. I bet he does. He wants to rub his face against you to itch it.
It's funny. The wet food thing is super like when I go in the kitchen, he gets up on the counter and it's I know what he's saying. Like I know what he means. It doesn't mean anything else but I want more wet food or the yogurt.
I got these yogurt treats, but I can tell I give him a yogurt treat. He's like that'll do. But I prefer if it was wet food. See, so you're intuitive.
You just have an oldie. Here's one for you. When I get out of the shower and this is the thing that my other little magic cat used to do, they come in and they get the little, I call it a bar and a tail. He's tail does this weird little twitchy thing.
And he just, I think he just wants me to pick him up and hug him before I leave the shower. That's like a thing that he, every show, he comes in for me to greet him. I've got to say some stuff to him. I don't know what that is.
And then it wants to be, when I get out of the shower, he wants to play on the bed. That's like a thing that he wants. He wants you to pick him up while you're wet. Yeah.
Because that would seem to be the big difference. Other than you've been away from it, where did you go behind the curtain? Nah, because he knows I'm in there. He'll like look at me in there, but then he'll go away.
Then when I come out, he immediately comes in, does this tail thing and won't stop. He meows at me. He's like yelling at me until I pick him up and just hold him for a little bit. Yeah.
Maybe it just gins a little extra warm from the water. Maybe he does drink the water off my ankles and I'll dry myself. I don't know what that is either. Yeah.
He's so awesome. Okay. This is my favorite sentence that he said last night. Oh, he likes to follow you around when you come home.
He does. Yeah. But then I said, okay, what do you want to say to dad? And this is my favorite thing that he said, he said, boys rule the world.
I say that shit to him. You say that to him? Oh my God. He literally.
That's hilarious. Yeah, we say that. What do you say to him? I'm just like, it's the dudes man.
It's dad's dad's dad's dad's dad's rule. No, that's literally what he said to me. Yeah. And now even more so, I've checked his other two cats and girls and I'm like, they don't get it.
I mean, like the dudes, we run this shit. That's literally what he said. He was like, boys run the world. I got you.
We're homies. Nobody else matters. Like that's literally what he said to me. You're my best friend.
We're the coolest people here. We're way more attractive than everybody else in this house. But I'm like, don't tell anybody else in here because they'll get their feelings out. But we rule.
Yeah. Oh my God. I love that he said that. That is so cool.
And he like, because some animals in a very large family like this one would be like, oh, you know, we're such a great family. He's okay with everybody, but he is like, we're best friends. We're pals. We're the dudes.
We're the dudes that rule the world. Yeah. 100%. Yeah, we run this place.
Yeah. No, and he knows it. He said we're a great family. He loves you.
He loves his life. He feels very well. He feels like you're partners. He feels like it's the two of you against the world.
Yeah. Yeah, we're pretty gay. Wow. Oh my God, that is so adorable.
Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing. He's definitely it's funny like when you were going to come on the show.
It's like which animal do you wanna talk to? I'm like, you know, some of them have issues and in my mind. I know, but they are you know. Like some of them are getting older and I know them.
I know what they want. And I knew that Rumble, it wasn't more like you were gonna talk to. people were going to talk to him and I was going to be like, oh, I should do more of this or I should do more of that. Like I didn't think that he was going to say that.
I just thought, I just want to know how happy is because I know he's happy. Like I know he has such a good life and he's such a weird guy. He's not like a normal cat. Like he's, he's involved in everything.
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It's just like a he's like such a dude. Yeah. And it's I just wanted to I guess make sure that he was happy, but I always thought it would just be funny to me. And it is because what I thought he thinks is what he thinks.
Yeah. Yeah, you're very intuitive. So the thing is like, so yeah, I mean, animal communication can help health problems, right? There are sometimes where the vet can't figure out what's wrong, right?
So animal communication, the animal can tell me if they're in pain or where it is. The other thing is sometimes the vets get the diagnosis wrong. So talking to the animal, I had this one dog. They were going to go in for back surgery and think goodness, they thought to talk to the dog and me before the surgery and the dog was like, it's not my back.
It's my spleen. And so I told the people that and they told the vet and the vet's like, no, that's wrong. It's the back. They called me.
They were like, what do I do? I said, get a second opinion, got a second opinion. It was the spleen. And that dog almost had open back surgery for no reason.
Behavioral issues, you know, sometimes people have a couple of animals. They're not getting along. I can hear both of their perspectives. They don't negotiate.
But the best thing about animal communication is validating what you already know, because we have these relationships with these animals, but they don't speak human. So being able to really, oh my God, I was right. Like what I thought was right. That's the best part of animal communication.
And so it's not just for neurotic people. It's just for anyone that loves their animals and wants to really hear for real, what they think they know already, which they do. In general, do you think there are insights that you can share with like every pet owner? Here's the thing that people misunderstand or don't always get about just having a dog, having a cat, having a chicken?
Yes. Yes. The common theme of every single animal that I've ever spoken to and the one thing that I would love to tell all of humanity is these animals literally understand everything. Because they don't speak human, we tend to treat them like, oh, they don't really know that I'm getting divorced or they don't know that I'm sick or they don't know why I'm sad.
They know everything. I have had animals say, tell them I'm not to leave them. He's trying. And that animal communication saves their marriage.
I talked to an animal that had passed away. She showed me a pill bottle and kept saying the words don't do it. Don't do it. I was like, oh, I'm not going to deal with the animals shame.
Told the person and the person was like, yeah, I was plotting my suicide. Really? And the animal was like, don't do it. These animals understand why we're sad, what's going on, what we're struggling with.
They understand your entire household knows that obviously there's a breakup happening. Like they know what is happening and they haven't understanding about it. They want us to turn to them. They want us to confide in them.
They want to be our rock. They want to make us laugh or feel better. They're just, what are the dumb ones? Animals are so, so smart.
Well, I can tell that Rumba wanted to come in here. But now I sense that Rumba regrets it. Got a bit of a stare down. I think Rumba is furious that there's a dog in his room.
Because this is his studio. Yeah. So he's not wanting to meet my dog. He wants my dog to leave his room.
I'm sorry, Rumba. We'll leave as soon as this is done. I promise. I'm sorry.
You wanted to come in. Now you want to leave. He's like, what do you want to do? He's stuck in limbo.
He wants to glare at my dog. So let's talk about cowhugs. Best things ever. Are they?
Yeah. It's so great about a cowhog. Oh my God. That must be very high maintenance because I don't know how people live life without cowhugs.
I have to hug cows every day. Do you have them at your disposal? Yeah. Okay.
Well, they help. Yeah, I live at the general of our California location and I get to hug cows whenever I need to. Whenever I'm having a bad day, I go straight to the cows. Like cows.
You know, I'll tell you why. Every animal in our life, like dogs, cats, we're bigger than them. So we're the one walking the dog or riding the horse. So as much as they love us and they do love us and they do heal us.
But at the end of the day, we're in the power position. With a cow who weighs 3,000 pounds, we can't make them do anything. So we become the vulnerable child, if you will, and they become the parent, if you will. And they're the ones that are holding still for us, wrapping their necks around us to heal us, they understand what we're going through, they hold space for us, they help us get rounded and centered.
It's like a giant mom hug and it makes us feel like a kid again. So you're obviously saying cows will reciprocate affection. They're not just idle bystanders. They know that they're exchanging love and warmth.
Yeah. They're choosing the interaction. The other thing that's really, really cool about the cows at the general barn when they do cowhog therapy sessions for hurting humans is they are very intuitive also. And so they know what's going on with that person.
So if it's somebody that has the weight of the world on their shoulders, they do something silly and make them laugh. If it's somebody that's really flighty and distracted, they meditate with them and help them get grounded and centered. And when it's someone that's in real trauma or grief and in real crisis, they will literally of their own volition wrap their necks around them and hold them. So you have a whole book about cowhog therapy.
What do you go, is it a bunch of individual stories? Like how much ground is there to cover in regard to that subject? So my book cowhog therapy is, yes, overall, different stories of some of our most resilient animals, how they literally saved human beings and all the wisdom they have to teach us all, literally. But it's also my journey in animal communication, my journey in discovering self care, how they taught me meditation and gratitude, how they taught me leadership skills, really all the best traits that I have as human being.
I've learned from my cows and other animals. You're vegetarian? I'm vegan, yeah. Yeah.
That would try. Yeah. What about horses? What about them?
Do you hang up with horses? Oh my God, yeah. Horses are amazing. I think every single animal on this planet has something to teach us and ways to heal us.
It's just different. So with a cow, they're going to nurture us like a mother, with a horse, they're going to give us opportunities to practice leadership skills and confidence. And with smaller animals, we have opportunities to practice empathy and compassion. So everyone has something to contribute to us.
It's just different. Not to say that a horse or even a bunny rabbit can't be nurturing. I'm not saying that. Yeah.
Yeah. I never, I have a horse or a patter on a horse, but I've always, I don't hate horses. I've ridden them before in the past, but more like some farmer, like do you want to go for a horse ride? I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm not going, I'm not telling this horse to do anything. He's taking me for a ride. And then recently I've hung out with horses regularly and befriended a horse and like cleaned him and watched him and fed him and became a friend of his. And it was like a big shift on my opinion of horses completely.
Like I really enjoy being around them. It's like there's definitely some sort of therapeutic thing with it where I, it doesn't matter how my day's going. If I'm around that horse, it's out the window. It's gone.
And I don't say when you come to see your horse, empty your mind of all your worries. I just don't have any worries on him around my horse. Yeah. It's a weird thing where I don't realize until I get in my car and I drive home and then as I'm leaving him, I'm like, holy shit.
It just cleared me of all my worries. Just hanging out with him. It's crazy. They're very powerful, like not just physically, but I feel like in your soul.
Yeah. I don't know what it's like to hang out with a horse that doesn't like me or is frustrated or scared or, you know, like, because I know that people say that what is it? They're stelly in or whatever that they haven't broken them in or they're wild and they'll just run off on you and you can be online and they can be like, I'm going and use, there's nothing you can do about it. That sounds terrifying to me.
And I don't think I have the, because I got some cowboy friends that they know what they're doing. For me, that sounds absolutely terrifying. I'm like, if this horse wants to go somewhere and I kind of don't think about it, I'm going to die. Yes.
And I don't think you would ever be in a position to be on a horse like that because you're very intuitive. And if that horse is angry or scared or distrustful or doesn't want you to be on them, you're not going to be on them. So people that get in trouble with horses are people that are not listening. Right.
Right. Because that is, yeah, I feel like that because I have ridden some other people's horses and somebody, because I was there a lot and someone was like, can you walk these horses? And my girlfriend at the time was like, why don't you jump on him and it was just bareback. I jumped on him and he didn't really want me on him.
And I got off straight away. There you go. I wonder if you, I wonder how bad it would have got if I had to kept going. Well, you would have that horse would have made it known that he doesn't want them.
He would have gotten hurt. Animals are talking to us all the time. It's just most of us are not listening. And that's how we get bit or kicked or in trouble because we're not listening.
We're just doing what we want. I mean, that's the people too though, right? Absolutely. I feel like I've always been a good judge of like whether somebody's going to do something bad or not.
Yeah. I was actually just talking to my boxing coach today. We were at the gym yesterday and there was a guy at the gym. I didn't think he noticed it, but we were lifting some stupid thing next to each other.
And this guy walked sort of in between us. And I was like, I didn't say anything to him, but I was like, that was weird. And I really sensed a really bad vibe from this guy, like very negative. And I told him, I told my friend, I was like, I'm not, I'm not, I know I look violent, but I'm not a violent guy.
I do train to fight, but not to hurt people. But I had this feeling where I was like, this dude needs an ass woman and I wouldn't feel bad about it after I did it because he's a bad guy. I know he is. And then I told, and then my friend today was like, yeah, I saw that guy that walked in between us and you were like, what's up with that guy?
And I didn't even know he noticed. And I was like, yeah, that guy gave me a really bad feeling. He seemed like a really bad guy. He's like, yeah, I thought the same thing.
And we, and he's like, I've seen that guy there a lot. He's got the same look on his face every time he's there. And I was like, wow, we both picked up on it and he didn't say anything to us. He just had this bad intention face.
It seemed like that's intuition. That's animal communication. That's all it is. We all have it.
And you listen to it. That's really impressive. Do you think it could be something from your childhood where your intuitions, you use them because it was like a, because I feel like some of these things can can you can mold and get better at because it was a thing that you needed to survive? Yes.
A hundred percent, a hundred thousand percent when you're and I know what that's like when when we're in an unsafe situation, you can't just rely on your ears and your eyes and your brain. You have to use every single cell in your body, every ounce of intuition to keep yourself safe and alive, a hundred percent. And so, but then later in life, it becomes a superpower that can help you because you're using it all the time. You just haven't probably cleaned it out loud before.
Yeah, I feel like it's funny. My job, like being in radio and now being a stand up comedian, I can read people before they talk. I know I know what they're not completely, but I have a pretty good idea what they're about. And I think I got it from my childhood because it was a time where I needed it to know where to go because it was there were dangerous people around me.
And if I didn't know and I didn't make the right decision, I was going to get in real trouble. Right. So you had to make an assessment in a nanosecond to keep yourself alive. Yeah.
And it's never like you say, like when you're saying before, you don't want to use your brain because it's not a thought. It's just yeah. Yeah, I know things will come out of my mouth around my really, I didn't say that. You know, but I'm already I'm already on the case.