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I'm Joel. I'm gonna talk about superheroes that could save the world, or at least solve some problems. It's an exercise. We're gonna work together to build a team comprised of two different universes working together to solve a goal.
It's not gonna be, like, I think while we did say they're gonna save the world, maybe they'll save the world by doing something like more covert. I don't know, what's the, should we come up with a premise first before we come up with a solution? I guess so, I guess I did kind of put it together. My thing was, what's it like if we could pick people that we liked from both Marvel and DC to build, like, the ultimate super team to deal with any problem.
And the lens to which I looked at building this team and, you know, thinking of possible entrance is, you know, I kind of looked very much to like, heist movies, because, you know, you got your brains, your bra, your speed, your heart of the team and everything. And that's something I think a lot of writers look to when building a new super team. Right. So we're basically building, like, a kind of merged universe, Justice League, or maybe even Suicide Squad.
That dude. To solve a problem. Let's look at it this way. There's an alien ship floating above Earth.
They got a death ray because it's always a death ray. Yes, okay. And this alien ship is from some other place that neither of them have any experience with Aishun. There you go.
Yeah, let's go that way. No pre-existing alien race. This is the new crossover race of aliens that both companies won't stakes in. Okay, okay.
So let's put down some restrictions here. I think we need to have a set number of characters, and then we have to have a set number of characters for each universe that we can use. Right, okay. Here, I have a couple headings.
How many headings did I end up coming up with? One, two, three, four, five, six. I mean, the usual set is like a five man band, and then, like, two extra as is usually the go for when it comes to building a team like this. Okay, okay.
That's the usual number. But then again, this is like a huge crossover thing. This, I think, will be allowed a few extra as for this. All right.
All right. I mean, like, Justice League is always seven, or at least that's what people call them. But I don't want it to get too crowded. I don't want it to be like 10 or 11.
They're going to trip it over each other. Of course, yeah. Well, because it's like, here's the thing, too. Some of these jobs are like more like technical are the thing.
Like some of these would actually be more for like, canyos or side characters sitting back and running the computers. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
They're going to need to pair off a team up and. Yeah. Not everyone will be on the strike team for this mission. Let's look at it that way.
Okay. Alien, death ray orbiting space. So right away, we're going to need people who can fly out of space. Or at least people who can get you to space.
Right. She's got ships. She can fly out of space. And of course, she's got the energy, redirection protection aspect.
Always helpful. I would say too. Let's start from the staging on Earth and build our way up to the actual thing. Because when it comes to a team like this, you're going to need the brains of the operation.
You're going to need a mastermind. You're going to need someone to stage. And I had at least three people in mind that I thought would be really perfect for this. And again, I will let Sal be the ultimate decider here.
I will pick and then we'll work from there. Mr. Fantastic. Obviously, we're going to be able to do that.
I'm going to be able to do that. I'm going to be able to do that. I'm going to be able to do that. And again, I will let Sal be the ultimate decider here.
I will pick and then we'll work from there. Mr. Fantastic. Obviously a lot of experience with space and cosmic stuff.
Uber genius. Stretchy dude. Has led his own team for a long time as an elder statesman of his universe. Very looked up to true.
That's that's the more heroic angle I took. The other two, I picked two spies either Nick Fury or Amanda Waller. If you know you want some dirt getting done. I think Mr.
Fantastic would be like, well, let's try and save and learn from these people. Nick Fury and Amanda Waller would be like, let's kill these motherfucking aliens dead. Out of the gate. I'd like to see the waller and fury work together.
though I don't think they would, I think they would start to, and then they would betray each other. Of course they would. I was gonna offer another solution because I wanted to get him off of the table, put him behind the computer screen, and just to use Batman. Yeah, that was another one I thought too.
Well, I had another thing too. Usually in a heist movie, you have the backer or the bank roller, like who's the money for this mission? Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true.
I would somebody to bank roll it. Batman's got deep pockets. I would think he would be pretty perfect for that. Then you also got people where it's like, you know, like unexpected pics, like Black Panther and Aquaman, you're both kings, you both have treasuries and shit, and weird-ass technology we've never seen.
Would you like to bank roll this joint operation? I do like the idea of Wakanda providing the bank and the tech to get them wherever they need to go. They also have ships. Yeah, so ships exactly.
And that kind of like solves any problems about like, who they, you know, about where they're gonna get this stuff. I mean, you can also stretch the believability of like, okay, the back plane, it's not gonna really break out. You gotta explain how Batman's gonna be able to create a spaceship. I think that Tachala is the bank roller.
He's definitely gonna provide the financing. Mostly because he's like, Wakanda will be full of all of I don't protect blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm doing this for me, but I guess I'll also do it for the world, that kind of thing. So we'll both agree on that.
King Black Panther, he's right there. He's the bank roller on this one. He's a fishlil. And he's providing the rides.
Yeah, the sick-ass rides. Yeah, I mean, I definitely want a bad family member somewhere behind the screen. Oh, don't worry, there's other jobs they could possibly do. Very good, good.
So the bank roller is Tachala, but as far as like, this is the thing, somebody who's like in the ear of everybody around them, again, like, because you need a master strategist that also is like, knows everyone's powers, weaknesses and limitations. Yeah. So that's why I'm like, okay, that needs to be like, at the computer screen, I'm like, all right, I'm coordinating all the teams. Alpha Squadron, you go there, beta team, you go here, you got that kind of thing.
They definitely do respect him. So do we want to put Batman down as the brains of this operation? So because that also allows us, because like, you know, you want somebody who's stealthy and smoke bombs and hide and air ducts and stuff, you've got three or more characters that can all do that and can still look rad while doing it. And it also, it solves the bat god problem with him literally always breaking formation and then going in like the lynch pin of the ending.
This is true. It's a table that also makes him integral. So bat fans are like, yes, Batman's doing cool shit. But also you let somebody else who might not normally get the screen time.
Absolutely. I like that from a storytelling perspective. And also if he's running the computer, he can also have narration duty. How about that?
Batman can narrate these events and give amazing soliloquies and monologues about all the cool shit that's happening. Oh, totally. That's how staggering it is. I thought I had chronicled all the powers in the world, but apparently I was like 50% out of my depth and learning all kinds of shit.
I can see Reed bumping elbows with bats as well, keeping him honest. If you put your stuff on my desk, this is my part of the desk, Batman. He's like, yeah. I don't have to put up with this at home.
We'll go home to your invisible wife then. Yeah. If you exist. I will go home to my wife, Batman.
You'll go home to your nobody. Go home to your geriatric butler, you miserable pants wedding saddled man. I married Catwoman kind of sort of. I don't know.
I guess I'm engaged. It's kind of unclear. That story's still being told because I'm telling like a summer long flashback. Yeah, great.
All right, so we've got the financier and the kind of like strategist. What's next? OK, so muscle will be important for this team. And it's funny, as I'm thinking here for DC Marvel applicants for this thing, it's hard to think of DC guys whose powers are just strong.
Yeah, that's true. I mean, immediately you always assume Superman, but there are definitely some characters that are at least as strong as Superman. Yeah, I mean, you got your beans, your juggernauts, your colossus. I would like a weapon exude in this slot, honestly, because they can breathe in space.
I assume it least, they won't hurt them too bad if they get shot out there because they can heal. I would kind of like a crazy wild card in this. You know, throw fucking saber tooth in there. Why don't you?
Saber tooth as the muscle? Yeah, as the crazed muscle of the team. It's like, look, just throw him in there and he'll handle all the dirty shit. I was going to say, you need the other guy.
You need a character who's like the wild card, the character that's like, he's solid and he's cool. I vouch for him, he's cool, but he's not cool, is he? No, it's usually the anti-hero slot for the muscle. Yeah, yeah.
All right, I'll concede saber tooth. I don't normally give a crap about him, but I will concede that he's like, powerful in his own way. I mean, like. And here's the thing too.
With saber tooth, he got the fear factor. And also if you need someone to die, because in movies and TV shows and comics like this, you always need a red shirt or a full guy. I think if they killed off saber tooth, no one would be crying too hard. No, it's true.
Because I'm just thinking like, oh man, if you're thinking of like Power Houses, you could also do something like March and Manhunter or Lobo. That, I mean, also, you know, you think like the obvious one would be the Hulk, but the Hulk is also like, he could be just as much of a liability as he would be like to help you. Yes, exactly. You know, the Hulk is like a plan D dropped from space.
We've run out of options, released a first edition. I could also imagine how amazing that would be. I'd love to see it. It's never happened yet.
A scene between Marvel and DC where they're like, I guess we'll just unleash the Hulk. And they're like, unleash one of your comrades? What does that mean? Yeah, really.
Like the DC people being like, oh my god. We don't do that. We're from. That's horrifying.
You mean you have a comrade who is like so unpredictable and unstable, you just point him and then fire him like a cannon? And he's your friend, right? You like this guy, right? Oh, you're a good friend.
We're going back a long way. He's helped you out. He's not like a bad guy. I think well, he did try to take over Earth one time, but we deserved it.
Yeah, well, because we betrayed him. We had it coming. Oh, no. That's a long story.
We'll get into it later, Superman. What's up, you all about it? By the way, do you have a role for Wonder Woman? Because I want to definitely use her in some way.
Yeah, well, we'll hear you all. I'll keep reading down the ones here. We'll find a place where there are just some ideas I had. But please, by all means, substitute your own.
Obviously, with any good team, with any good heist movie, with any good men, women on a mission movie, you need your gadget person. You need your hacker is what you need. And I had a couple ideas here. What about Oracle?
Or the Vision? Or Blue Beetle, or even Cyborg? Some of them are even robotic in their own way. No, it's true.
I mean, honestly, Cyborg seems like the go-to because he interface with MotherBlox. If he can interface with New Genesis technology, then he can hack Stark systems and he can interface with Go-Hactus' ship. He's definitely useful on that regard. He's probably pretty good.
Yeah. I mean, that's a great way to use. use cyborg also because like I always feel bad for him because I never find anything good for him to do it's true He's always the guy like okay, you guard the base and you keep our drinks cold for us exactly But I do like the idea of using I recommend a victory that one there you go He'll be our gadget guy I mean you could also easily put like Tony Stark in there too But like you said able to hack alien technology and plus Batman already has to stay behind and I'm sure Batman wouldn't let iron Man go in him stay. Yeah, that's true.
Well, that would lead to a massive dick measuring contest any nose like all the limitations of Cyborg and he knows like what to you what to aim him at by the way I'm also gonna toss out an alternate for for saber to just for those of you at home We're like no saber to I think Orion. Oh, that's fucking good Yeah, cuz he's strong as shit and he's got like a background for you know fighting alien threats and everything and if you killed him It just be cool and he can fly enough to help. You know what? Let us also in that situation mention Orion's Marvel equivalent, which is just racks right?
Yeah, you can use tracks too. There you go. There you go. You're the one that's those are good choices You know I I will concede swapping saber to without for Orion just because I think that's really cool Just because I want to see that visual of Orion being in a Marvel DC crossover.
Yeah, and I want to see him ride his little bike thing Yeah, it's like he's got his own way out there shit in that regard Orion could like double as both the muscle and the getaway driver Which is another one I have here as well. Yes Don't worry. I got some cool cool. I got some good ones.
Okay, so from there you need your con man You need like your slickster You need the person who in many times and in many of these things ends up sort of being something like comedy relief But he's the person who can get you in places, you know I thought you know wonder man would be fun because again He's a bit of a powerhouse and he's an actor and you know He's a good face of the human struggle clay face to another interesting dark horse pick because it's like I can basically make myself look Like anybody and I can split myself off and I can do a bunch of other shit. Yeah, yeah That was gonna say then you also like build it up to even more shape changes This could also be a great place for mystique or Martian hunter. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay con man I do like the idea of using somebody like mystique a marsh manager because when you said con man and like somebody's like slick and Hupster immediately went to like Tony Stark Deadpool or Constantine.
Oh, don't worry We've got room for them later, so we'll put a pin in those characters Because here's the thing like you know There's the standard five-man band of your heist movie super team and then there's the sub genres that build around them Yeah, I think between mystique and Martian under I would have to go with John just because like I trust him more mystique is like Mystique would be cool because I have ruthless she is but also I don't like she would be like oh like oh the aliens Okay, well now I live like them and now I live with them if they win well cuz I think there's another shoved sub genre to that too When it comes to the wild card when it comes to the double agent and man on the inside I think mystique would be much better suited for those sub genres. I agree. I agree. She could even fit in the femme fatale mode mold Which is another one in here?
Okay, cool You need that cuz obviously like the next one under the con man is you have the one that is normally referred to as the distraction But the distractions goes off into the sub classes of the munitions expert obviously like the dude who blows stuff up And oceans 11 the dude who blow stuff up in the Italian job and then the female equivalent of that which is the femme fatale Okay, so that one you could actually go a couple ways for it I figure for distraction obviously the first one that comes to mind is Deadpool who's more distracting than Deadpool Yes, Deadpool is the most if you need a distraction. I'd recommend that booster gold to also fits quite well into that mole Yeah, I fly plus he has laser blasts. It's true, but I don't I would not trust him. She's a goof.
He's a goof in a doofus That's for sure and I need we gotta sell these books man. We gotta sell a couple of kid We gotta make a couple of shiggles on this damn thing and that I think you know I think we don't have a woman on the team yet So I think a femme fatale would be quite add obviously you got your black widows you got your electress wonder woman Well, I don't think she's a femme fatale. She is pretty sexy most of the time and strong as shit who wouldn't want Wonder Woman on their team True. Oh, I'd also submit rogue.
Ah, there's another good one also lots of experience out in space. Yeah, and can fly in level Like I yeah, I mean if we were gonna go with like somebody we're gonna go with somebody that's sexy and also Like I can trust that she'll handle herself or they like they'll handle themselves by like over there Maybe rogue you sold me on it plus rogue is just good from a storytelling point of view like maybe she touches one of these aliens and learn something About their plan exactly she gets she gets some crucial bit of information like oh you don't understand like they have this Major weapon but like it's all a show is really this side weapon and that's the true the horrors of what's like hey These guys aren't even the bad aliens these guys are running from the bad aliens right right exactly like it was Batman after rethink the entire plan Yeah, this is a fucking scout party. Yeah Is what this is okay, so yeah, rogue you sold me on rogue rogue is right up in there Right. Thank you.
Oh, by the way get mr. Giggles in the super chances you guys are on everything is right with the world. Oh, thank you Giggles, I appreciate yeah, we're here So so now we move to my favorite team member of any heist movie and that is the grease man the pickpocket You know the the rogue or the thief if we wanted to use D&D terms This is again like the acrobat from a Motion's 11, you know the contortionist and all that other stuff some really good offerings I think for this one in the world of superheroes obviously if we're thinking thief I mean Catwoman maybe one of the most famous thieves in all of fiction Yeah, she's a good grifter Scott Lang Antman dude can shrink down dude also can serve as comedy relief and heart of the team That's good with that with either as well. Yes, mr.
Miracle who's getting a hell of a push right now also experience with aliens Also a new god can also escape pretty much everything. He's the master escape artist It's true and then hey, what about like gambit because he's also a thief professionally and can also blow shit up right and also like if you throw gambit in there Now all of a sudden there's a little bit of concern for each other Rogan I mean like they're not together anymore. They've been together for a long time, but it's like who cares It's a say the one story Somebody's a grifter from Wildcats again if we need another red shirt. There you go.
There's your red shirt Oh, man, I think I mean I love the idea of using Catwoman because she's so ruthless and so like Like she always lands at her feet. She sure does I have a soft spot in my heart for Scott, but that's just me. I hear you I do like it using it man Hmm. Yeah, what do you what I think it's between cat one and an ant man I mean, I think it comes down to who fills more roles I mean Catwoman would definitely be a femme fatale could definitely be the grease man of this superhero picture that we're painting right now Scott Combie relief a heart of the team as we've seen in secret empire He can actually make you feel quite a bit and also kind of almost almost fills the every man shoes in a way Yeah, though.
He does actually have like some abilities that are outside of acrobatics. He does you know? We're gonna say hey, I can steal most things guys. Yeah a lot of people in China.
So you got some plastic man Oh, that's a good one too. I don't know if plus experience thievery plus he's super powerful and again also, you know Can elicit an odd bit of sympathy in a way. Yeah. Yeah, I think I gotta give this one to the chat I think plastic man's a good pull.
All right, good culture nice. So there you go. You look like it's gonna jump in Yeah, who's uh who's who's uh is also on the rise currently thanks to metal. He's hanging out there somewhere Yeah, he's still an egg over there.
He sure is. Okay now we get to the driver We get our getaway person who who's gonna help us here Obviously, you know when you think vehicle specialists in comics your mind instantly jumps to ghost rider I'm actually a ghost rider came by in a fucking spaceship that he held out because everything he tries gets held out Yeah, I'd like to see space fire Night crawler is another interesting one. You just teleport you. Yeah, that's true I was thinking I immediately went to Iron Man 3 with Iron Man just being the mechanic That's true.
That's like he could pin about a whole score of iron suits for everybody. Oh shit Hey guys guess what I'm sending into you custom-made iron man suits for everybody He gave them all of them already like they just had like they all have like a uniform You know like how like remember in secret war when all of them had like really cool uniform like team outfits They were like areas on the world costumes. Everybody's got like it's a uniform that looks pretty much like their regular costume But it's a little different. It's got this cool like like circle on their backs I remember yeah, okay time to go hit the button and then they all turn on and they all get like iron suits that are tailored to their outfits Or have it be like one of those hey guys remember those celebratory drinks I gave you before we shot you have to stay in the window box the turkey with iron character Yeah, they were filled with nanobots and I can activate whenever I want and I'm activating them now Yeah, I think that that'd be kind of cool And then I'm gonna be like let's go and then you know Plus you get a chance that you get a chance to have that like fourth issue or like if it's a 12 issue story or you're if you've It's like a four issue story you like second issues second or third issue story where it's like oh Fuck just you turn everything on it's here and everybody gets a cool new upgrade.
I like that I like that a lot actually you've sold me on that one iron man will be our driver mechanic whoo Again to it's like Iron Man's like what you think you were gonna do this without me exactly yeah You took the you took the back guy It's like among guys Jesus yeah now we head into like kind of the what is it like the guest starring roles or like the bit parts But that are still pretty important most good high smoothies and most good teams have a grizzled old vet in there somewhere Okay, okay, I think I know we're going with this guy a lot of the time the grizzled old vet doesn't even make it out of the opening Like again, I'm thinking of the Italian job and shit. Yeah, oh Poor guy doesn't make it out of it There's a lot of good grizzled old guys from both DC and Marvel that we could pick up from here I'm kind of a dark horse pick this one came to me wild cat what a wild cat offered his expertise in punching shit He could also end up kind of being the red shirt too because it's like oh no wild cat died No, I died doing what I love punching things right Punch the things and dressin like a cat he could also be the go on without me guy And then he's just like throwing down with aliens just punching them all over rock I mean it's a great way to get rid of wild cat. Okay rid of wild cat. I love he's probably gonna come back in metal He's due for a comeback.
They've been bringing back everyone from Earth to That's true. That's true a lot of people suggesting other members the JSA like J. Gary I mean, I immediately went to cable or oh, that's a good what about old man Logan. He's old as shit I think old man Logan would be cool because it also it it's shades of wild cat in that he's has like a feral type creature The thief but I so you get Wolverine your book you could say that Wolverine is technically in the I mean that just that just puts Butts and seats that puts books in hands.
I also had Captain America on here. I'm like well because technically he's an old man in a young man's Body, right? Yeah, it's hard to not say old man Logan. You're right.
Yeah, especially if you're going with a grizzled old man Go with the guy's got old in the name. Yeah, who literally I am such an old man old is in my fucking name So I'm such old man. That's my name old man. That's my code name old man Logan quick get old man Logan on the phone Look we have to call you old man Logan is going to differentiate that you're a different Logan than the one who died Yes, exactly.
Literally your code your code name is what you are because we don't want to get confused It's like do you call Jean Grey young woman Jean great sometimes? Yeah, yeah, yeah Sometimes we do because it's confusing actually It's rolls off the tongue much easier than time displace Jean Grey or universe displaced Logan People do say that like they will they say time displaced whoever but that's mostly fans Because we have to keep it straight exactly like Jean great doesn't think oh Jean Grey back. No time displace Jean Grey. Ah, okay Oh Jack Barker suggested Magneto as well.
That's also good. He's also old and grizzled as fuck is he? And it would be a great way to get like a powerhouse kind of off the table where it's like he does this one thing and then he leaves And he breaks shit. Yeah, and he breaks shit.
I like me. You know as we've seen in secret Empire man when you turn him lose He'll fucking break all your shit. Now be a cool man. Where he's like go pull down one of the alien ships or something I don't know yeah go on without me and then he can have like an amazing soliloquy where he's like dying and looking at earth and being like You know I always hated my time on here.
I thought it was just filled with tragedy and death But as I look at it now, it's kind of beautiful, isn't it? Yes, the curtain falls and the play is finished. Oh his eyes closed again like you said mimicking like curtains closing on a play And that's making you know his final shot. He doesn't die, but it looks like he does You know he gives it for a few months.
He's like oh you make him die now. He comes back dressed as Zor He's like yes, you see as I was dying I managed to wrangle a comet that was going through space and I pulled myself out just at the explosion And I hung out with some friendly aliens for a little bit cool. Whatever Magnus I'm back Continuing on here on like you know the bit parts you usually get in like a heist team movie He's often get like an inside man or a double agent This is a person who could be a traitor or a person who's like royalties are never fully like you know you never know Who's side they're on and there's so many great ones to pick from yeah, yeah This this could be like the Loki role or the Sinestro role. Yeah, yeah, I like you know one of those Then of course you can have like your death strokes or your task master hell task master just this week embodied this fucking role in Secret I do like the idea of somebody suggests the super scroll.
That's also a pretty good one though What super scroll help earth though, or would he just be hanging out wherever he's at right? He's kind of a dick. I also put like deathstroke on here too. It's like I'll save the earth if you pay me right he's good Doom oh, dude.
There's another great one. It's like really frustrating though exactly like when when will he try to betray us and take What we're doing and take over the world. I have no take it over the death right it is mine. Yes Ha ha be a great woman too, because then they're like oh crap.
I gotta go be doctor Do now, but they couldn't feel really bad about they're like yeah, yeah, he makes a habit of this actually we really shouldn't have brought him along We were pretty we were prepared. We knew he was gonna do this because yeah, that's when the other team members like no No, it's okay re-richards took us aside down earth and said look he will betray you at some point be ready to like throw a sack over his head and beat him with sticks Yeah So yeah, I like I like Sinestro I like doom. I like I like deathstroke, so I'll let you pick it man I've been picking up all these this is right here. Let me look and see how many marbles versus how many DCs Let's go.
Let's go. Let's let's get mixed. Yeah, we want to try and keep it next okay, so we got marble black panther for our money tech and backing That man is our brain strategist. Orion is our muscle, so that's two DCs to one marble cyborg is our gadget guy So that's three DC Martian man hunter is our con man chameleon dude So that's actually four four DC rogues are distraction plastic man is our thief So that's five iron man is our driver mechanic So that's three and old man Logan is our grizzled vet so that's so that's four to five So it's actually pretty balanced so far.
It's not good in attention So it looks like we got to pick someone marble to be a to be our dude there So hmm you could have Loki people love Loki don't they that's true. That'd be fun I was you could have Loki like kind of chat up with Orion like oh, you're a new god, huh? I'm a god god Right the thing is does with his power set like kind of displays his amis usefulness like mmm I mean like it's kind of it's kind of nebulous to actually how powerful Loki is at this point It's true his powers always go like back and forth where sometimes like well I'm I'm tricks and mischief, but I can change myself and everything and then sometimes it's like no I'm literally as powerful as Thor and any of the others right mr. Giggles against a fanos as well Oh fuck yeah another dude who goes to space all the goddamn time and he knows it He'd like you knew aliens can't destroy earth.
I've been trying to destroy earth since you were in short pants Yet another guy who much like doom is like dude you totally run the risk of fucking us over. Yeah I like that is to cuz then I was gonna even like look at this team like what a loser motley crew you all are yeah Yeah, he's like I'm so debasing myself bringing like getting involved by hanging out with any of you losers Also, it would be funny too because then you have Orion hanging out next to fanos and being like wow You're a bigger dick than dark side. I should call my dad and tell him he's all right I'm at a bigger asshole than him. Oh my god.
Yeah, Orion dealing with Thanos be kind of cool You know I try and kill my dad all the time right he reminds me a lot of you So there you go. Yep, you talk me into it Thanos is our double agent guy is our double agent man on the inside Hello the team effort so our final team is black panther Batman Orion cyborg Martian man hunter rogue plastic man iron man old man Logan and Thanos Yeah, really though the one woman in the team yeah The one should should we attack plastic man out for catwoman then is the thing just try bouncing out a little bit about that I mean like yeah, I think the catwoman is I think I was cool store potential even regardless and I was pushing for Before that anyway, I that's right. Yeah, I like plastic man. I think it makes sense.
I like catwoman more I think that like I think I'd like to see catwoman dealing with that problem It's true and also it gives Batman more skin in the game was like oh, I hope Selena will be okay Also, I can see him being like you work part of the plan. Mm-hmm Like my world to I gotta get involved let's do it Also, I don't think we need like a straight-up comedy character like plastic man cuz as we mentioned just a lot of these dynamics will be funny on their own Yes is what we'll be like Orion talk to Thanos. That'll be funny. Yeah Batman dealing with catwoman That's fun too iron man dealing with anybody will be great.
We'll be very funny. Yeah again I can only imagine iron man and cyber but like hey kid you got some fun cybernetic enhancements is that a suit? Oh, oh, that's your body Oh, oh shit. Hey, you know, I remember when I had an extremist problem.
We should do we should talk yeah We should totally compare notes. I'll bring your both down. You look like a regular person if you can Would you like that son? Would you like like little nano machines that come in and out to make you so you don't look so robotic?
Cool extra miss us extra miss I work I buy that for a dollar. I think they kind of tried that actually I think in one of the last runs yet so many runs close together. I think they might have done something similar to that Poor poor poor Victor man. Yeah, dude.
Just can't catch a boring. I like him in other things Can he please just join the Titans again either of the Titans team? He would be perfect. You can't do it.
It'll look like a demotion. I know I still think that Our Justice League vs. Teen Titans movie did it best where literally the Justice League gets taken out and cyborg has to team up with them And they all agree at the end. Wow, you're a way better fit for us than you are their team.
Yes Yeah, which was Tony the writers just taking time out to be like eh right come on So who's next I think that's it. Let's be wanted to side who the fall guy is I think we've cast this whole thing. Oh cool How many is that? Yes, that is one two three four five six seven eight nine.
That's about ten. Okay, okay? That's ten only some staying on earth though some getting ready for the getaway Yeah, at least two of them aren't leaving earth So that's about nine and then some who come in later. Yeah, okay cool And then the fall guy now what does the fog I do in this situation the fall guy is usually the red shirt?
He's the one who dies. He's the one who gets left hold in the bag Now is that Have we already cast them we haven't figured who it is yet or do we need to have another character? He's we could have another character although I think thematically it works better if we pick one from who we already have Yeah, all right cool. We'll do that then right?
I mean I guess right off the bat again Orion could have like one of those cool last stand moments of like go on without me Yes, absolutely Yeah him facing off against a horde of alien invaders is a cool visual anyway, and he holds his holds on for a long time He's just ripping thoraxes out in his face is getting all more messed up and more dark side as he does I'll be pretty okay. Yeah, that's awesome as he gives into his primal dark side rage, but for a good cause Yeah, I just I just occurred to me. I was like have we ever seen Orion use anything like Omega beams I think they played with that in Wonder Woman near the end. I was gonna say like wouldn't that be cool?
Like if this one's he's getting ripped apart. He's getting his ass kicked his helmet's taken off He looks like dark side his last mom. He's just enveloped in thousands of aliens and then just it all get and then they all die You know like just Omega sanctions all over the place Just like everything explodes and you're just like what happened to use the omegs actual something else Well, I like and then you just don't deal with it by the way getting our to the last year in the super chat Thank you, man. Welcome to the super chat.
You rock. It's nothing. It's just participating in super chat. He's just like But yeah, I mean that totally leaves it open to words like man.
He had a cool ass death Yeah, you know, so have you also have a bit with cyborg again to try and give him more important What's like oh I've interacted with the alien ship, you know by God? I see it's full of stars Which cyborg has done before and then you have like the thing that's like you know Will he ever be back and then you kind of do the thing for Teen Titans Justice League in the comics where like cyborg does come back But he's the size of a planet and shit now and it's messed with his head interacting with all this alien tech That'd be cool. I'm that bad too. You make him the villain for the sequel that will be doing in a couple years Yes, I work merges with the ultra under something.
Oh, man. That's a bitch. Yeah, it's just pimtron But it's I work out it's cyber. I fused with the alien God machine What's uh, who is his closest confidant on the Titans?
Now nobody like before like who's is who's the person that tethers into reality like throughout his his career? That's okay, then you use that character is kind of like the holy shit surprise like like, you know, it's it's weird Like in the cartoon it was always like oh him and Beast Boy were kind of like dude bro buddies and everything but like in the comics But ironically after the story after he became like the Technus imperative and everything he lost all the cyborgness out of him and came back to being human He went over to like Wally's flash book and became like his human buddy for a bit who just hung out in the flash book Yeah, okay, a lot of people are suggesting Beast Boy because I just think I'm like man Beast Boy will be cool like on some like oh shit like you know he fuck a dove flies through the fucking crowd Like what are you doing? No Beast Boy? He's like no I gotta do this and he just like he reaches him in some way like shit Beast Boy would have been a good pitch to for the thief or something because he can turn into anything even alien creatures Yeah, yeah, by the way alternate suggestion of cyborg merge with the phalanx.
Oh fuck That's strong. That's pretty strong right there But yeah, so okay, that's is that it is that where we are? I think that's it. I think that's where we have we've cast our whole team for our hypothetical definition cool cool So it's a motley crew of Marvel and DC characters.
They all get together. It's basically a lotion's 11 Only there's 10 of them. So we got the opportunity we can we can use the X in it You know because it's a numerical like stand in for 10. So I think that's where you're gonna title it I use ten it's a layer of course.
There's only one X man. I know this is that bull So you got two X men kind of it did because they pull in something. Oh, yeah, no, we didn't But we got roaks. She's our one X It's not enough to call it an X event.
So you gotta use the X in some way. I do like maybe like universe X or something I think that's already a sequel to Earth X damn it probably is apocalypse X has to be a thing to yeah Yeah, yeah, goddamn it. I mean you've taken all the good X names shit What's also our team name for this to because like every good team needs to have a name even if they only got together once yeah We need a word that means like last hope or like last-ish effort. What's up?
What should it be Latin? Who's good with Latin? Make it nice and fancy. Yeah, like the box Machina It's not the dirty dozen.
It's only ten Yeah, that's that's a no-be-is-spem is last hope in a Latin not great. No, no, no, let's see here The super 10 is too obvious No, no, no, I call something like I think I call the books and I'm like Armageddon X or something like that I like that. What about the pantheon is that taken like a team? Yeah, that's got to be taken, right?
Yeah, there is a team called the Pantheon They were in there. They were debuted in Incredible Hulk. It's a Hulk team. No shit.
Yeah The bulwarks the impossible 10 Delta Force ultimate is there an ultimate X. I think there's an ultimate X. There's gotta be I Like the impossible 10 that's pretty good though. Hopefuls.
That's funny Equality protectors Yeah, it's circa X. Yeah, I know it's a word. I'm trying to think of Final fighters nice one You know like you call the team something like resilience or something like that something that means like that we don't back down They have resilience that's Deathstroke's new team. Oh, god damn it Oh, Brian's got else world's X.
Mmm. You fucking nailed it Brian. That's why you're an idea man The else will act there you go works with us because it's the name of our show and it's the name of our event. Holy shit And by the way like the it's one of those like new comics things where it like uses a term that meant something before but we're using it For something else like it's about other worlds that are invading earth So it's else worlds like it's not about like the world like it's not about like an alternate reality It's about like worlds that are attacking here.
So it's else worlds. Mm-hmm else world X And yet you think it's means for X men, but it actually stands for the number of people in the chat Yeah, the chat saying wow that's meta as fuck. Yeah, it is. Let's do it.
All right. That's our team's I Love it. I love it to bits. Let's let's take this to the printers How many holographic covers will this event have so issues is it you can't like I mentioned earlier I think secret empire would have an awesome in four episodes or four issues I think maybe six issues and you've gotten yourself a fully rounded episode or event good solid mini series Yes, six issues for 99 pop maybe you know, I think that's good It's some good artists on the variant covers every every member of was it else world X will get a cool variant cover devoted to them And we'll get like a great artist from their run.
That's like definitive with that character. There you go. No tie-ins obviously Because I hate those It's too lean an event to have tie-ins, you know, we're just sending them up into space There's no side stuff happening. I mean you could do tie-ins words like what are the like what spider-man doing during the invasion?
He's looking up right exactly like they're in it. They're not like They're there were you know, you'll see him maybe but like you don't need to be it Spider-man will look up and be like man. Hope they're okay up there. Hope they do the thing wish they called me Why aren't I in this?
I'm good at so many things. I'm art and I'm a grease man and I'm comedy relief I'm always on the cover of every event. I don't understand regardless of my level of my involvement So you have surprisingly absent from secret empire for a huge chunk of it literally this issue is finally when Peter Parker shows up It's a hey guys. I was in Asia and Europe, you know getting guys to come and help us.
Sorry What's it called? So yeah, so you got very covers and stuff like that. That was where you get your multiple artists who's drawing it Mmm, man. I love Marquez right now, and I think he needs some redemption for the last event he drew Right, I'm a defenders guy I draw defenders now and who drew Civil War II.
Oh, no David Marquez drew Civil War II. Yeah, that's what I said I say his name wrong. I thought you said something else. I was like who's that?
Yeah, I'd be awesome. I'd love to see Unless he Jason Favek draw it. Mmm. That's nice.
Yeah, Jorge Jimenez You're a big fan of bands guy for him, too Yeah, he's okay. I would go over I would go with Babak him and his or or even Marquez over them Everyone's saying Capullo man. Imagine getting to see Capullo draw some Marvel characters. I would be that's like imagine Capullo spanos Yeah, I love Mike Del Mundo.
I don't know if you'll be a good fit for this I think Mike Del Mundo doing covers be freaking awesome. Yes I just like Del Mundo doing the standard covers like a main original covers would be awesome. That'd be nice Yeah, yeah, I would go with Marquez He needs another event that actually really fucking rocked and you know you'll get to just draw some cool-ass pictures of everybody Exactly like imagine Marquez's Batman. Yeah.
Yeah Marquez. That's it. Okay. I want to see Marquez draw Batman and stuff So yeah, yeah, and Del Mundo to the covers.
It'll look awesome. There you go. Who's the green arrow guy right now? Juan Fiera Fiera Ferrera.
I don't know he's really good. He's very stylized See it's Juan Ferrera I keep wanting to call him Ferara like a Ferrari. Yeah, he's good It's very stylized very very pretty. Yeah, it's pretty reminded shades of Gabriel Delano Yeah, I see that there's a great one in the new green arrow where he teamed up with Batman Which means we get to see him draw Batman for like the first time Yeah, and it's a great bit where it's like it's a blood red moon up in the sky and you see Batman reflected And then you turn the page and you see like Oliver Queen's face like reflected in a glass of red wine and like woo They're two sides of the same coin.
I like this. Yeah, that would be very yeah. It's very good looking I don't argue with that. It's pretty so yeah, that's our story everybody.
So you have it Elseworlds X it's an epic story that we just cranked out in in less than an hour less than an hour you got yourself an epic story We're both companies can make some scratch We didn't even need a writer's retreat for this one we kick this out By the way really quick alternate suggestion about this whole thing because everybody's got to make a couple dollars There are DC covers and Marvel covers fucking genius So DC gets their own you know they can do whatever they want for the covers and Marvel do anything They want to go and they always got to collect them both and like DC can collect the proceeds of the DC covers and Marvel can collect blah blah everyone stays nice and happy everyone gets to give some work and spread it out to all the guys in their company Mm-hmm. Exactly. So no one feels like they're getting left out on this one everyone gets to draw something I imagine for something as big as this everyone will want to get involved and draw something Completely there you go else world's X a Marvel DC co-production that'll never happen that it knows like a kind of dirty dozen epic story I can imagine also you could do like you could have Batman create the team that everybody would expect to see where he's like This is the like the front loaded team like Superman's century Superman's century Hyperion Phoenix like you know Like everybody in the sky like head-to-head shoulders All the omegas Yeah being like if the if my you like if the Batman strategy doesn't work I'm gonna need you guys up in the front to show the world that we're that we've got their back Someone's asking the chat and who and who would write this story well us obviously we wrote it right now I'll write again. We got this trust me.
You I just wrote that awesome Orion death scene trust me. We got it covered written by Cravelli and daily What concept yeah characters belong to their individual, you know, whatever Thank you. Yeah, yeah special. Thanks to the chat for helping sound is what we would put just special thanks But Chad by the way, I'll also throw in somebody suggest somebody Matthew mentioned Deadpool rides into the group of the nuke I'm gonna play I'm gonna play with that idea and make him the gala of the episode of the comic where he finds out about it Is invited and is like you're gonna need my help and like quietly and under like the like beyond behind everyone else's backs under the scenes He's doing things and like getting involved until finally like there's one last thing and like someone gets taken out He saves them or rescue you know you rescue somebody who would sacrifice themselves to like detonate a bomb or something brings him through And I don't know how I survived like I just I have the blast was to blow me out of the blah blah blah like I like it Like there were you that way you got your dead fool everybody, but yeah Hey, hi everybody.
Thanks a lot for hanging out with us. I like doing these we should do these every couple of episodes These are fun. We just write these things if you haven't by the way checked out We've done this before tip and I did an epic Marvel DC crossover as well check out Well, though I'm cuz damn actually the pitch likes 12 of them or something like that. Mm-hmm.
It's hard to get started. It's hard to stop It's true. It's true. So thanks for bringing out everybody.
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