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All right, let's get on with the show now. Waiting down upon the underworld to smash gangland comes a friend of the unfortunate enemy of criminal. An mysterious, all-powerful, callicarch, a problem to the police, but a crusade of a law. Hello everybody, welcome to Elseworlds Exchange.
I'm Sal. I'm Joel. Hey Joel, what's going on? Well, the Mac is a show, dude.
Oh, happy to be back. Damn right. Damn right. If you didn't catch last week's episode, we had to bump Joel.
Sorry, man. We had Dan Larson from ToyGalax to come by and chat about toys. You can watch it. It's a really fun episode.
It's just a good guest. I'm fine being bumped for good guests. That's the thing. Yeah, it's like, no, I bumped Joel.
We had Polyshore on, and he was just desperate for any opportunity. I don't know, man. If you got Polyshore on the show, I would be like, man, that's a good get. I mean, we could probably get him.
Oh, yeah. And he'd be like, what do you want to talk about, buddy? And I'd be like, nothing click. Hey, can we talk about your mockument?
I'm not sure. I'm sure you made a couple of years ago. Polyshore is dead. That was actually pretty fun.
That was a neat idea. And he's like, yeah, that was the best thing I ever did. It was. It really was.
It required me to be the friend from Goof Troop to do it. Because like, you know, I needed to do all my shitty movies before I could actually lead up to a movie about me being dead. And how much I love Sam Kennison in an interesting way. Yeah, right.
But anyway, I wanted to do a quick plug for that episode because it's a good episode, but it's not too much of you that it should be. And I think you guys should check it out. Most of you are fan out of me. Not a lot.
I'm not a lot of love for toys on Comic-Pop. I don't know why, but people, you know, there should be a lot of crossover. And I think there is, but not enough. In addition to that, we're going to take a quick minute.
Joel's going to headline this episode because Joel's got the list. And also, I talk so goddamn much. I want to take a backseat and let Joel kind of take the wheel. I'm going to be the Bruce Banner to his incredible Hulk.
I'm going to climb into the trunk of the car. I'm going to let Joel drive the car. You can be by sounding bored. Right, exactly.
I will respond in kind. But I'm going to let Joel take point. But before I do that, I'm going to take a big chunk of time and just complain or talk for a minute. Because this is nothing you do else or else another new comics, but you probably heard about it because if you go on Reddit or if you read the news or if you are plugged in anyway, you heard about Kevin Smith getting a heart attack, which most people thought was kind of inevitable and expected.
But the dude really did a lot of like personal work, dropped 85 pounds, changed his lifestyle, doesn't he? Thanksgiving dinners every day, like he did a couple years ago. Dude really changed his life, but it still doesn't, you know, you can make all the changes you want, but genetics, you know, they're within you. You can't change it.
Sometimes they have to fuck you. He is predisposed to having heart conditions. His father died of a heart attack. His mother was a couple of stints.
Like they, it's just you have that. You have crap, you have crappy hearts. And if you eat like you did, it's not going to make anything better. So as a result, Smith had a heart attack and thankfully the old Kevin Smith luck rang through.
The dude made full recovery, has a stint in his heart, but he's feeling better than ever and we're expecting to see him back in action pretty soon. I'm very excited about that. The reason why I want to talk about it is because when I woke up this morning, or not that morning, I looked at my phone because I needed to check if I slept in or not. And I'm like, and it says Kevin Smith heart attack.
Oh, no. And massive heart attack, 100% blockage. But they say, but it says like Kevin's with heart attack. I'm like, oh, well, he's fucking dead.
And then I click on it and it says like Kevin Smith makes full recovery of massive heart attack. And I was like, holy shit. Isn't it nice to have a nice ending to a story in 2018? Yeah, right?
Like, yeah, 2018's like the Grim Reaper is like, how about this one? And cause Ali was like, no, things are bad enough. So I was just, I was so relieved because Kevin Smith is, he's not a friend of the show. Like he is, we don't know him.
I don't know him personally, but he has been such an instrumental part of my life. Indeed. And I would be like losing an uncle. And it was really, really scary and shaky for me.
And it really like, it just hit me in the heart a little bit. And I was like, holy shit. And so I read through that and it was a complete wake up call. And so that morning, like I fucking read that and my Kevin Smith's dead.
And then it was like, oh, he's not dead. He's actually fine. But he had a massive heart attack. And he took this little selfie of himself in the hospital bed.
And it was so affecting to me because Kevin Smith's been inspired since ninth grade. Ever since ninth grade, I saw Clerks and I was like, oh, I can make a movie too. And his style talking and character really influenced me. It turned me on to being the my true self, who I wanted to be.
And so as a result, I started pursuing things that I would not have normally. When I was in high school, the freshman in high school, I didn't act. I was on the cross country and track team. I was not an English major.
I was probably going to go into history or math or science actually. And I moved all the way over to other things because of these influences. And one of them was Kevin Smith. And the dude not only did he influence me from ninth grade, but like every time I saw a movie, it was at the right time when I was in religious tumult because I was super religious in ninth grade.
I eventually saw what's called dogma. And that completely shook my complete perception of reality and religion. My never kept Smith movie still. It's one of the best, but that completely shook me chasing Amy, shook up my perceptions of people and love.
And then Jane Bob Strikeback was like the crescendo, like, hey, if you've been a fan, here's a little thank you. Something that doesn't normally happen without the nerds. Where it's like, hey, did you love Spider-Man for 25 years? Well, guess what?
Here's something that completely undoes all of that. And I was just on the heels of the clone saga and shit. I was used to fandom fucking me. But Kevin Smith was like, hey, you guys love my shit?
Here's a movie that says thank you. And it's a little letter to you. Exactly, but completely influenced me as a person. And then Jersey Girl came out and I was like, holy shit, when I was in Virginia, and I'm like, holy shit, I'm in my heart's new Jersey.
I want to be there. That's where my true self is. And so that changed things for me. Every time he does a movie, except for yoga, I was like, holy shit, this is the right time of my life.
And the Walrus movie and the sausage-gramly movie. But you know what? I think he could take something good away from that. She was like, you know what?
I don't want to stagnate creatively. I want to keep pushing boundaries and make movies for more than just me. Yeah, I'm going to try new things. It's like his decision to do a cop-out.
What I would do, not what I would want to watch, but I was like, more to power to you. And then very, very right around the cusp of comic-pop's formation. We were just about to change over. Not even change over.
We were right before we started shooting Back-A-Shit. We were like, how about? We go, Tiffany and I went to go see Kevin Smith Live at Montclair State University. He was doing a talk.
And the ticket price is like $5. And I'm like, I'll drive to Montclair. So I drove to Montclair, the two of us went, it was like a room with 80 people and he's talking about podcasting. And I knew his connection to Sir and Smock-A-Shit.
But once again, he's like, podcasting. I know that I'm all in on podcasting, but the reality is it doesn't have to be a podcasting. A YouTube channel or anything, blah, blah. He's like, but go tomorrow, like for today, start one.
And I was like, because I tried numerous times to start podcasts with no or little direction or encouragement from those who I sought to start them with. And then I'm like, yeah, YouTube, fuck. And it was thanks to him in DeFranco. I was like, what did I do this?
And this is where that came from. It was because primarily of that live talk from him, that I was like, son of a bitch. Another fucker's still taking me to school. It's worked out pretty good so far.
So yeah, exactly. So I screen-shot his picture. I made it my phone background. It's him in the hospital.
And it's a little moment for me to look. It's almost like a mirror where I'm like, this is you. If you don't change your shit. And so that morning, I went like, oh, thank God Kevin says, okay, I wrote a little tweet.
And then I went to the gym, joined it and started. And this is a day three of me being at the gym. You can see no change because it's been three days. And one of them was a rest day.
So it's really been like two days. But I have also been going to the gym every other day. I ironically started the same week, but for different reasons. It's Seattle Comic Con is coming up.
So we didn't get to go this year, but I looked at pictures of us from back then. I'm like, wow, I was way fucking speltier back then a year ago. What the hell happened? I completely agree with that assessment because I also like will go back and look at old videos and be like, oh, I'm getting fatter.
And like, I know that. Like, yeah, that's what they don't tell you about working online. You will only ever see yourself get fatter and fatter or skier and skier. Exactly.
And people are asking about sodas. Let me tell you, in college, I was in my in the best shape of my life and all my college friends were like, well, the first thing, the big thing you got to do is you got to drop sodas, man. So is the killer. You got to stop.
Just cut it out. Don't drink your calories. You will see a vast change. And it's like, okay, no more sodas.
And I cut out sodas for eight months. And there was no change in any way at all. And I went to my doctor and I was like, yo, man, I'm not doing sodas. And he goes, oh, who gives a shit?
And I go, he goes, is it full of calorie sodas? And I'm like, no, it's, you know, like, oh, it's not dry. I stop drinking Coke and now I'm drinking water. And he's like, yeah, I mean, like, anti-calorie is anti-calorie.
So like, that's bad for you. But like, you know, don't, it's fine. Like, you know, if you work out, you're fine. You're young, who cares.
And like, and then I looked up all those ridiculous reports about how like, like, I soda causes like autism and like, in the eye. Yeah. The doctor again, I'm like, yo, man, like, is this true? He's like, no, it's bullshit.
Like everything you read online. Yeah, I don't, he's like, that would not be the first priority. So I am still drinking Coke Zero, but like, I am also changing a lot of things about my diet and about my worldview. I moved soda to being like a special treat when I go out to the movies or to a restaurant.
What I really need to do is throw out the fryer, which is tough for me. Because if you've ever seen my Instagram name, what I fry today, I know you love that. You love that fryer. Oh, man, it's not even deep fryer to them all about the pan fryer because it makes it crispier and soaks in more juices.
Oh, yes, that's true. You'll find other ways to make your food taste as I know from me. Oh, I'm sure I will. The red samurai throws out a tip where he's like, find a buddy to go with you.
After a month, he gets tired, you don't care, but the buddy helps you out. It's very true. That's how I got in the best of my life in college. I was like, I am going to go with my friend and Sam and I would go to the gym every single day.
And some days I'd be like, dude, no. He's like, all right, well, if you want to give up on your dreams, fuck you. And he's like, I'm like, God damn it. And I go.
And like, that's all a personal trainer is. You just pay someone to guilt trip you into working out. And I'm like, no, I'm not going to pay for personal trainer. My personal trainer is Kevin Smith.
And it's just every morning I turn on my phone, I unlock my screen. And if there he is sitting and going, fuck up. And I'm like, right on. Island Steve's survivor wants to know, will there be more or less wings?
Ooh, that's rough, man. I made some delicious wings last night as we talk about this. But hey, some of the chat said switch to coconut oil. I might just switch to coconut oil.
That's an easy switch and you won't even notice the difference. Sure, I won't. It'll actually be kind of a refresher. I also, back a year ago when I was in a better shape, I was having salad with every meal.
I should go back to having salad with every meal. Completely. Exactly right. I will be reducing the amount of cozier as I do drink, just to like, mostly you encourage me to drink water, because I passed out today.
And that was really bad. Yikes. And I was like, what the fuck. And I was like, for a second, I was like, am I having a heart attack?
And I checked all the shit. And I'm like, no, I literally just didn't drink any water today. Like a dump. Like a big pile of shit.
And so I drank a bunch of water. And I'm like, and it was like, pop-eye. I'm like, oh, well, I won't do that again. So I got to buy a bottle and I got to drink that.
Oops. That was almost embarrassing, but thankfully not. I finished all my workout. And then I went to the locker room and I'm like, I got to lie down.
I'm like, I don't have to go anywhere to work out. There's a small gym in the condo where I live because I live with fucking old people and the youngest person here. I know, but that's great because the rent is controlled and also you don't have to deal with any wild parties. That's also enjoyable.
And here's the thing. Do you love bread as much as I do? I'm like Oprah in that regard. I cannot slay my love for bread whenever I go to cook something.
It's obviously like, oh, well, I need a nice base of bread. I'm Italian. My life is bread. And I just believe that as long as I eat less and exercise more and eat more good things, I can keep eating bread.
I'm not I don't believe in cutting out the things that you love so that you can get to the things you want. I'm an all or nothing kind of person. And I really do feel like if I cut out, like, let's say I'm like, you know, okay, I'm going to start one of these diets and I'm going to like only eat this one thing or these only few things and it will get me to where I am. Then I'll be thin and like, I won't be able to enjoy the things I enjoy.
I'll be like, well, if I eat that once, I'm going to balloon out and explode and eat. I'm like, no, I'm not going to like basically it's if I were to decide to start like a weird diet or like even just a regular big diet, I'd be like, oh, well, so the solution is I had to stop eating the things I like. And replace it with being thin. I'm not going to do that.
It's true. Do you hear this other thing? They say, hey, if you want a snack instead of eating a snack, eat a minge because you know, that'll give you the oral fixation covered and then it'll coat your mouth in mint so you won't want to eat or drink anything sweet. Yes, two tips.
Just have celery sticks because it's just water and after a two of them, you're going to be like, I don't want to eat more than shit. It's true. You're a street. You are done.
But I put a little peanut butter and some raisins on it. Yeah, I guess if I cover a little sugar and I start like this, if I put a little bacon on it, I guess that'll be worth. I mean, help me. A buddy of mine who like dropped 100 pounds over the summer when he was in his late 20s, he only drank grapefruit juice.
And I think it's only because grapefruit juice tastes like liquid vomit. And so it's basically just a deterrent to keep you from hungry. Yeah. We're like, oh, I have to finish this.
And then by the time you're done, you're not thinking about putting anything else in your body again. No, no. Anyway, so yeah, making some changes, but like I'm not going to be that guy. This is like a most health related episode of the Ultimate Exchange Over to Here because like, I know.
I don't care about that shit. I don't care about myself and like, not care about myself. I love myself. I'm off it.
But like, no, I care about like taking care of myself, but I also don't like, I don't care about talking. I don't want to talk about exercise. No, neither do I. My big helping is like, I don't want to tip the scales at 300.
So long as I stay under 300, I'll be good. Yes. The funny thing is I still perceive myself as my ideal self. So like, I'm like, yo, I'm 165.
I'm like, oh, no, I'm not. I am very much not that. So I need to get like, I'll never get that level again because I'm just bigger than I was. Like, I just have more of me, but like, if I drop it down, I should find like, I can still be.
And we're both tall too. So we both have the excuse of being like, yeah, but for my height though. Oh, yeah. No, I've always been tall.
And when I was all the way up until about 29, I was now, no, that's not true. I've been 29 very, very shortly ago. So like, no, in reality, it's more like when I was 25. I was very thin.
Yeah. Like, I was thin all the way up until I think when I hit 20, my body, my metabolism finally started slow down. And I was like, oh, this is what I was supposed to look like because I was really thin. Yeah.
But anyway, yeah, so Joel's going to take things away and talk about some events that are happening or have happened very recently. And we're going to like react to them and push them against the lens of Marvel's Fresh Start and see if they're well, we'll see where that goes. So yeah, I have a list of Fresh Start titles. I have a list of events that are going on right now.
So yeah, let's go with the events because that's more recent. Yeah, let's let last week we had both damnation and infinity war countdown start in a big way. Let's let's start with damnation first man. It's been like forever since we've had a Doctor Strange centric events.
I don't think like he lends himself to events really like the last major Doctor Strange event I could think of is Midnight Suns, which was so complicated sprawling and involved like 27 titles. It was so incomprehensible and Doctor Strange looked like Swan. Just weird. I could not and I was like, man, when Tiffany started getting into Doctor Strange, I'm like, Oh, you need to do Midnight Suns.
Like you need to re-atch it. And I'm like, is that even collected? We got all that up. I got to know because if it is collected, I'm going to buy it during the show and then we'll get Tiffany fucking episode of the coming soon.
Yeah. Anyway, which it's funny you mentioned Midnight Suns. This one has a very midnight Sun-like feel to it with Wong essentially saying, no, no, no, no, no, big world shaping events. Steven is totally out of his depth on this one.
I must assemble a team of Magic Fighters. Yeah. She has a game reaction where she was like, Oh, she hates it. I got to tell you, she was reading, but she was like, no, this is not.
This is not feel good. It's not. It's not hopeless bad, but it's like she's not feeling this event. Also, if it looks like the Joker, okay, I was glad you guys, I posted that picture on an Instagram there and you comment saying, man, the new Joker looks great.
I did not see it before. Now that you have said it, I cannot unsee it that Mephisto looks like the Joker. It's so weird. Like and maybe it's Marbles response to the terrific being a fantastic fork up in some way, but I don't know.
It's a weird choice. It is a weird choice. Although I do kind of like this idea again because it's co-written by Donny Cates and Nick Spencer. It's like meta text that is popped up because a lot of Spencer's work is covered in meta text.
This idea where the heroes are like, man, the secret empire. We sure are sorry about that. Let's move on and never talk about it again. Only for Doctor Strange to come and be like, no, no, no.
I can fix the secret empire. No, don't try and fix it. If you try and fix it, you only make it where I crap. Now the devil's walking around.
That's true. It's no. Like it's weird. It's a weird decision.
It very much is. I hope the moral of the story is, hey, ignoring the secret empire was wrong, trying to fix it was wrong. Let's just live with it. Right.
Let's move on. Let's admit it happened and then just move on with our lives. Yeah. Because like if you can have Doctor Strange raised the dead, then why does he do that all the time?
Like, you know, it's just weird. It's just a weird decision and also like it kind of undoes the oath, you know, because like the whole thing is predicated on Doctor Strange being able to save people who were dying. Like it's, eh, I don't know. I'm never been a magic guy.
Yeah. I mean, magic's always been up and down at both companies. Big time. I still like Marvel's magic mostly because of the characters.
DC's magic I can't even make out of the salesman. And there's more rules in Marvel to the whole thing where in DC, hey, what are the rules of magic? We don't fucking know. Yeah.
What? Who cares? Is it Lanting Magic the same as like, what is it, Doctor Faith magic? Yeah.
Like, yeah, no, I completely agree. It's whatever you want it to be. Yeah. Weird.
I'll stick with it just because it's been so long since I've read a Doctor Strange centric story. I'm like, OK, I kind of like this. You know, a Vegas type game of chance to save the souls of an entire city. All right.
I'll see where this goes. Yeah. OK. I'm not reading it.
I'm not reading any of the tie-ins though. And they've already said there'll be times but for books that like no one is reading like starlet spider is going to get a tie-in to damnation. Woof. Yeah.
What what's been Riley doing in Vegas? Mm. I couldn't care less. No, you're not.
Like you you Marvel man, you made me care about Kane and then you made him irrelevant. Yeah, fuck you. We surely surely did. It sucks.
What's another one we got? Oh, so we got the second part of I guess we're still in prologue for infinity countdown, but it was infinity countdown prime number one in man. This issue had a lot going on. Yeah.
Yeah, I loved it. Me too. So tell us why. For one, it actually goes out of its way with a bunch of supplemental material both in the beginning and in the back to be like, hey, have you never been able to do it?
Never read a Marvel cosmic story before. Do you not know the rich history of the infinity gems turnstones? Well, let us tell you all about it and let us also give you visual confirmation that yes, the gems have turned into stones. This is what they look like now.
Right. That's one of the best recent Marvel decisions I have seen in a few years. Oh, yeah. It's like they remembered how to do it.
It was so good. I bet it was Doug and Zaidi and editorial fought against it. Right. It's yeah.
So good. They must have fought against it because that's what Marvel comics used to do. I mean, the whole goddamn thing is predicated on Stanley. By the way, like may he get better soon.
We need him around for a little while longer, at least. I'm like, I'm at least reach 100. Yes, but Stanley's well, believe of every comic of somebody's first comic. Like, and that's why there's always like an obnoxious while it wasn't always this way, like style, mental breakdown of what's going on and a little like summary of the character above.
Like it's, I don't know, like this, this felt like an annual like a Marvel comics handbook kind of it. It really, really did and it covered so much ground in such a short amount of time and it did all all the different levels. Hey, here's Marvel street level. Here's Avengers level.
Here's cosmic level. Yeah. And I really appreciate them. Explain being like, no, the stone, we're calling them stones, but they really are the gems.
And by the way, I would just as quick aside, I said this on Twitter, I hope that once Thanos gets them in the movie, he constantly refers to them as infinity gems just to just a fuck over Marvel for their like preemptive movie decision change. There's no goddamn way that somebody at Marvel decided start calling them stones because they sound better, not because it's directly connected to the movie. But anyway, it was great. By the way, people are wondering what the hell this issue was called.
Was an infinity countdown? Infinity countdown prime number one. Um, okay. Which they also have a whole list of titles there and it's funny in the list of titles when they talked about everyone who was going to get a thing like, Daredevil is going to get an issue.
And I remember before I read this one, like how the fuck is Daredevil going to get involved in all this cosmic stone business? Oh, Turk has one. Okay. Oh, okay.
That's cool. I like that because Turk is like the punching bag of the Marvel street level set. So for Turk to be like, no, I have a stone. I am untouchable now.
Yeah, that's a cool idea. Um, and so explain to me like, because this is a neat idea. This infinity countdown, basically the idea is it's basically a couched annual where they're like, here's what happened. Here's the history of the infinity gems.
Here's where they are now. Here's your has them. Is this what the event is or is this a prelude to like what the fresh start Marvel like will be? It could be both.
If you read the Adam Warlock special that they did before this, Adam Warlock goes to the end of time to visit Kang and Kang tells him, Look, someone destroys time and space as we know it. This is why I'm at the end of time. It's the only place that's safe. I need to send you back to 2018.
But that's going to be difficult because whoever this mystery villain is, we don't know who it is. Someone has united all the stones and now they are god-like and they are untouchable. So I have to send you back the old fashioned way. We don't know who the villain is.
And what's cool about this issue is it says anyone could be the villain. Anyone who has one stone now and wants to collect the others could easily be the big villain who brings about the infinity apocalypse. They call it. Well, good catchy name.
I know, right. I'm guessing that like, I mean, the fact that Wolverine was so covetous of it makes me think like maybe he is going to like be a problem. Like it's true. It's cool.
It's like, I'm excited. Like, I really dug it. It felt like the most Marvel comic in a long time. Absolutely.
They make a good argument for everyone. Two words like, yeah, obviously it could be Loki and it could be Ultron, but it could also be Super Stroll. And yeah, wouldn't Wolverine be unexpected and wouldn't be, you know, wouldn't Turk being the big villain wouldn't have to be unexpected. Yeah, it's true.
I mean, like, I don't think they're going to make Turk the big magic. No, I sincerely doubt Turk will bring about the infinity apocalypse. Yeah, although wouldn't that be a fun little like twist? You know, like, oh, it's the Bilbo Baggins thing.
Like, even only the smallest and loneliest of us can affect the most change or some god. And he'd have a good reason to do it to be like, you heroes were always kicking my ass for years and breaking my bones. And now I'm going to give it all back to you. Yeah, well, it's Turk's time to shine now.
Turk God of whatever, which they've done that once or twice, like in the old Daredevil. I have the Stiltman suit now. You can't stop me, Daredevil. Oh, yeah.
Hey, you know, when the old Stiltman went to jail, he gave me the special shutoff code for your suit. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, a little word of the wise.
Don't rip off Stiltman. Mm-hmm. Aim a little higher. Exactly.
Must be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling. Uh-huh. It is cool to have Super Scrollback and for them to also explain some shit being like, Hey, how did Planet Sakaar come back in the Hulk book time? Jim?
Oh, right now? Yeah. Cool. Excellent answer.
Yeah. And also, like, it's exciting to have Super Scrollback. It is kind of a way for them to say like, no, no, it's, it's, uh, it's Super Scroll. Like, I assume they weren't using him because he was fantastic for power, but like, it's a way of them being once again being like, we're coming back, we're doing a thing.
Exactly. And also too, I even like his motivation. It's like, I will use the time, Jim, to return honor and glory to the Scroll Empire. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I would like that.
I'd like to see the scrolls take a bigger part in Marvel cosmic. Oh, yeah. They're also going to be the villains for Captain Marvel, the movie. So I guess they should be made a threat again.
Yeah. Yeah. There's no way they're not going to do that. Um, so, uh, Silverie Cricket asks, thoughts about the fact that Gwenpool got canceled even though it sells better than Scarlet Spider, but it's getting shuffled off because she's not legacy.
Dude, your guess is good as mine. Uh, my guess is Hastings. I think Hastings is right again. Yeah.
Is just, he's like, that's all the story I have. For whom I'm surprised it went on this long. Yeah. Um, literally it's just, I think it's just, he was like, I don't know, I got this is all I got.
And he'd rather than being like, okay, and I'm going to pass the baton and let some, and Dennis Hope was ruined Gwenpool. I'm going to end it and be like, you know what? Like, I don't have a plan. It's like, if you need to cancel something, cancel my book.
And that makes sense. I mean, because it has the most natural conclusion. It would work. Um, and it's a great book too.
So it's sad. I'm sad that it's, that it's going to man. It had a run to be proud of it. Maybe now I'll actually go back and finish it.
Yeah. And no, but tell also says I don't know what to write. Your $5 buy. Thank you.
Oh, thank you sweetheart. Thank you, man. But yeah. Uh, so that's an infinity countdown.
That one for me out of all the announcements is one of the most exciting because it has the potential to be like a Jim Starlin. Ask, even though ironically Jim Starlin was fucked by Marvel recently, Jim Starlin asked kind of like board wiping of the Marvel universe, not like a real deal. They're going for I don't feel like it's going to be like an infinity. Oh, no, I do feel like it's going to be a crisis of a neurosica thing where they're like, and everyone's younger and the origins are reading rewritten by no one.
Come on, but we'll write all the origins. You know, I think it's going to be more like, no, no, no, everyone's going to get like we're going to put people pull all the toys back on the shelves, where they came from. And then we can and then we can fuck it all up again. Yeah.
Yeah. Was that I'm looking here at the checklist of titles we have Adam Warlock got one black widow is going to get one. So yeah, I guess she's back alive now in that other. Never died.
No, I was waiting for it to be done so I could read the whole thing, but it's like, Oh, but is it really hers? It's an imposter? No, I guess it's actually really. That's really her though.
Okay. So yeah, black widow is getting one Captain Marvel is getting one, which makes sense. They actually do a lot of interesting stuff with multiversal marbles in this one. Yeah.
That was any idea like look at all these cat novels. Did you catch the joke that I'm sure made me laugh out loud. We see one just out of the corner where it's like, yeah, Captain Marvel's from across the multiverse. Here's one who looks like Shazam who gets more panel time here in this issue than he hasn't DC in like five years.
I agree. I loved that. I was like, Hey, nice little joke. Like good call, man.
I love that. And it it there's no DC marble crossover. They're not being friends, but it is a nice little way for them to be like, we acknowledge that there is a thing like we are part of this whole company. Like we are all part of this industry.
Yeah. It's a little joke. I like it. I'm glad that I'm afraid to do it.
Mm hmm. It's really nice. Champions is getting a story. Daredevil is getting a story.
Dark Hawk is getting a four part miniseries. One parts for dark Hawk. Justice for dark Hawk. Cash.
We may we are we are really feeling dark. Hocking by the end of this. We think you will agree dark. Hockey is where it's at.
Right. I doubt it. But good luck to him. Oh, grievous.
Just asks. So do we have an indication of countdown is the main event or some sort of build up to something bigger? I think we were talking about that and how like it is building towards something bigger. They reference the the celestial.
Yes, the dark celestial who apparently that's what Jason errands Avengers is going to be about. Yeah, that's fine. I like that. I'm actually excited because I don't think it's building I think it's building towards the next step in marble.
But I don't think it'll build it'll it'll crescendo into an event, but maybe or dovetail into one. Maybe maybe it'll just be what's happening at Marvel and it'll just not be a thing that they had that they can quantify and it'll just be how Marvel used to be. We're just just doing things just trying this now. You know, like, hey, did you know that one time hell invaded the Marvel universe and like whoever wanted to be involved had a tie in?
Yes. And it didn't it wasn't called it was called it wasn't called like it all the more collected although I think they were but you know, they weren't beating us over the head with it was just kind of like it happened. Yeah, whatever it didn't blow up the Internet of crack and half or make it out freak out because the pants. Just whatever.
Oh DJ Tuscano says here you go kiddos now run by yourself some baseball cards. Thank you for phonetically spilling my accent by the way. I'm gonna buy some dual monsters. I'm way into that dueling thing since I've started working out.
It's great to take that to the gym. No idea what you're talking about. It is a collectible children's card game. The one I learned to play.
It's like a Digimon kind of a. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it's not quite magic the gathering. It's closer to the Digi Man's than it is anything else.
Gotcha. Gotcha. But that's fun. Now another fun thing that they seem to really be pushing a pintron in this story, which I am so totally stoked about.
Yes. Great idea for a villain. Hopefully you know what like Marvel's shown that their ideas for pimchron are few. And so maybe they're like, yeah, this will be the big thing that he does and then we're gonna separate them.
I like that it's Dougins pet project. It's like, yeah, he was the villain of probably my best uncanny Avengers arc. And now I want to write him here. Yeah.
He was also the best part in secret empire. He had the best issue in secret empire hands dad. Do you like this idea that they see to imply that it's like, oh, yeah, this great new villain is taking center stage, but we might also defuse him. Oh, yeah.
And I'm like, I'm like, don't defuse him. This is more interesting than Ultron or Pim have been on their own in years. That's fair. I mean, they really need to help.
They need to fix Pank Pim. Like, and they easily could right now. By just having to be like, they're, I think this is their backdoor to it. Because it's like, look, I have the soul stone.
I locked away the good half of him in this stone, but the evil white painting parts are still hearing me pimchron. Literally, like you just need because you could do a thing where like Ultron gets the infinity gauntlet, basically. And then he used the time jump to go back in time and not hit Janet in the end. Like that's you just you could have made him a scroll the entire time during certain invasion.
Wasted it. You could have had it be like they fixed in house of M. Scarlet Witch made it so that he never hit her in the new rebuild timeline. 2015 Sigurd Wars could have redone it then.
But no, every time like go back in time, Wolverine could have stopped him from hitting her in Ultron. Yeah, multiple times you get it. You just speared him through a table like stopped him. Fix Hank Pim so that it's not doesn't feel yucky to like him.
Yes. And then just do what you did with Earth Might's Hero of the Cartoon because he's a great character in there and he's like a frustrating bastard there. But he also is in the white leader. So it works out like just just fix it.
Just clean it up and and then you get Ultron back and he's a really fun villain. When you know what to do. And I say all this and I like Scott Lang more as that man. Right.
Oh, yeah. No, well, thankfully Hank then has a thousand different personas he can try. It's true. He can hop into any of them.
Hey, be Yellow Jacket again. Hey, any of these other things yellow jackets cool hell like there's so many wasps. You guys could be the Hornets. Nestor.
Oh, that's a good one. That's another thing that's coming out just in time for the movie Mark Wade is going to be riding an Ant Man Scott Lang and wasp. Noggy Pim mini series. Okay.
Should be fun. Will I am building the super chances? Fuck you for being awesome. Fuck you too for being a good man.
Thanks. Will I am you son of it. No, but thank you. We have a fun relationship with our fans.
You know, really cool. Just as a quick aside regarding the hornets nest of the L jackets and shit like Hank being like himself again. And he's like, you know, he has no money and no prospects and nobody wants to. Well, who cares.
And he goes like, I don't know who I am anymore. I don't know what I should be. And someone's like, you can be the lost. Real Jackie was no, I don't want to be those things.
Like I was those things and I failed and all of them. And then Peter Parker. He giant man because there's a new giant man right now. You know, and then Peter Parker goes, you know, not for nothing, but I have all these old costumes from when I was in this identity crisis thing.
And I was the hornet once. And this looks like you could probably fit in it. And he could be the hornet and then you could use that fun design again. And then you have like Hank, and Peter Parker, like the in friends and they're like, you know, they're like, Richard's won't hang out with us.
You know, like that's a fun little dynamic with them. You can be my science dad, Hank, Pam. Now, fuck that. Like we're peers like Tony Stark and Reed Richards go off in a secret little meetings with Peter Parker and Hank, are going to hang out and talk like.
We're scientists of the people. That'd be cool. I'm down. Like, you know, anyway, that's just a little like, yeah, I think this would be fun.
Anyway, I think it could go on Rick and Morty style adventures. Oh geez, I don't know Hank. I don't know Hank. It's hornet.
I've already now. Look, I had the ricochet costume. You could have been ricochet. Oh, ricochet is done.
Ricochet sucks. And that's the girl. That's a problem with that. I think the best moment for Hank, then in the last 20 years was when he became wasp when Janet died.
And then what's it called Iron Man says, I don't have time to deal with you and your and your goddamn mental breakdowns like Yellow Jacket. And he says, I'm not yellow jacket. I'm lost now. And he says, oh my God, thank you for perfectly illustrating my exact point.
And also, man, what a great dick moment for Tony. Look guy who is my friend and my teammate. I have no time for your breakdown, but if I'm having a breakdown, everyone needs to make time for me. Oh, and if they don't, then I'm going to ruin everything.
Yeah, I'll make a registry or, you know, or I'll do something with extremist. You'll see, even in Iron Man right now, he's having like a mental breakdown. Everyone's like, but where's Tony? We need to find Tony.
Tony's so important. Yeah, he sure is apparently Tony Tony. Now, this one isn't technically like an event, but it is a story that's going on. It might be going somewhere.