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Alright, let's get on with the show. Weeding down upon the underworld to smash gangland, come a friend of the unfortunate enemy of criminal. In a serious, powerful character, a problem to the police, but a good state of law. Hello, everybody, welcome to Elsewhere's Exchange, I am Sal.
And I'm Tiffany. Hey, welcome to the show, Tiffany. Thanks for joining us today. Under problem.
Yeah, what a weird situation. Normally, you're here in the studio, but today you're in your own studio. Yeah, we could call that. Yes, we could call that.
Tiffany, why don't you explain everybody who you are, what you do, and what you're all about. On Tiffany, I am one of the co-hosts on Comic-Pop. You may have may not have seen me over on the rack, back issues, and I'm also over on our Twitch, which I'm actually going to be doing after this, which is why I'm over here and not in studio because it just saves time. Alright, what's the URL for that?
Twitch.tv slash Comic-Pop TV. Nice. Yeah, so it's a little, like I mentioned in the chat that we had a special guest, Tiffany. Thanks a lot.
It is me. Yay. It's like, yes or no. Like, sorry guys, but happy to be here.
Right, we're lucky to have you. So before we jump into it, I just wanted to say that we had a huge weekend. It was a lot of fun, a lot of work, and so I'm really excited to talk about it before we do. I wanted to mention the show sponsored by viewers like you.
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Thank you very much, man. I do appreciate it. That was very kind of z-burn. So Sal, what do you thoughts on the DC timeline?
This was another thing that came out of some rumors that predated New York on, but eventually came out at New York on that to do and the gang were working on a comprehensive DC timeline to kind of like make it all make sense because like it's about time they did that. My thoughts are I think it's a great idea. I think it's a horrible idea from the current guard who have no business making a DC timeline. I don't trust history book writers who have agendas and I don't trust timeline makers who want to muck with the timeline.
So, you know, those folks writing the timeline is kind of like asking like Germany to write like history on the Nazi party. Like I just wouldn't trust them to do it. No, I'm not liking the current editors at DC to not simply making a hyperbolic analysis. Okay.
Mr. Smart versus Punisher versus Emmonon on back issues. When that's right, Eminem was on was an episode or an issue of the Punisher. We will do it never.
So you can hang out. Don't worry about that. Yes, we don't worry about that. It's never going to happen.
But I know you know that which is why you asked it. So yeah jumping into it. So New York Comic Con. We went there normally when Comic Con goes Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Eventually we are going to see them go to Wednesday, I feel like. Yeah, because originally Thursday was just for press. Yep. That was a professional day.
It was professional day, exhibitor day, that kind of thing. And then I think they recognized they're like, Oh, wait, I could make money. And so they switched it over. I mean, again, they're in industry.
It makes sense for them to do that. But you know, I mean, I think it always feels super busy there because right now the jabbits is under construction. Yeah, they have like what they're losing. They're missing like a third of the building.
So yeah, easily. So yeah, it might be that like we feel like they need another day just because of how bad the crowds are. But maybe when they're finished with the building, we want to worry about that. Yeah, I agree.
Hey, Carter and super chances. Sorry, Mr. Guys, and your comic-con is here some love. Thank you very much, Carter.
Yeah, no, we we actually had a big old appearance at your comic-con. We did that was crazy. Yeah. Yeah, we always apply for a press, or I should say we always apply for a panel space.
We never get one, but we do a friends who exhibit at the show. And so we do our best to try and like provide some measure of appearance there. Because I find that if we were to like spring for a booth, it wouldn't be nearly it. It wouldn't pay.
It wouldn't be a smart idea because like so much money and time would be spent in and on the booth. We would lose out on a lot of interactions and a lot of just business opportunities. I mean, like we treat it mostly like a show, like an actual trade show at this point. So yeah, but because we don't have a booth, we can then like work with other people who do have a booth and like dedicate, you know, rather than try and like meet up with everybody periodically for four days.
It's more like, hey, everybody go on this day to this place within this window of time and you're good to go. Yeah. Right. I mean, so we did that.
So our friends over at Valiant Comics hooked us up with a table. They allowed us all to participate and sell posters and stuff, which we did. And we all did that on us. What was it?
Friday from one to two p.m.? It was Friday. Yeah. We sold posters.
We sold stickers. Actually, we launched them stickers, which we debuted over on Twitter. I think a lot of people noticed they were interested in that, by the way, you know, you don't have any. I have them.
They're all over here. I didn't think to get them and show them off. Oh, they aren't they. Aren't they?
Are they by me or by you? No, they're by me. They're in the other room. Okay.
Otherwise, I'd show them off. But anyway, we sold some stickers. We sold some posters. We took selfies and hung out with everybody for about an hour.
And then we did another meet and greet on Saturday over at the DC booth, which is more or less like our informal like we'll see you there if you want to see us. And we see like some really hardcore fans over there. And that was our big presence at the show this year. It was just those two appearances.
And yeah. So that was our interactive. And that's what a Carter missed out on. So yeah.
But I'm always humbled by that. We had a crazy time at the Valley booth. We also shared it with with any in his team over at Com different creators. We didn't go to any panels.
I don't think you went to any panels, right. No, there was just no time. No, and that's a thing. Like for the most part, like the panels that they do have would be like the panels I would go to I don't never even pay attention to what they are.
So like I remember when we first went like back in06, they had a, they're the usual Moments out a couple of Joe panel. Yes. And they were probably like, I don't know, couple hundred people there and it was it wasn't the biggest poll they had. And we're like, this is kind of fun.
But like a member like halfway through the panel, we're like this sucks, like sitting here was really boring and like waiting for waiting for shit we wanted to hear about even then like the stuff he did here about like there were bloggers all sitting there and waiting for those announcements so that they could write about them immediately following it. So it's like you could literally be at the show or anywhere and never you have to go to a panel and still know exactly what's going on at the exact same time because like people are live tweeting it or live posting it at that moment. In the Superchast Joshua Wright mentions, here's some love for being so awesome. Any plans for releasing more video game videos on YouTube also I can't wait for the Hawks and Pocks on back issues.
I mean neither do. As far as video game content here on this channel it doesn't do well or at least it does initially. Like if we had like one video game video we could do it but like we did a Spider-Man and it did pretty well for the first couple episodes and then it like the dip was so exponential I was like okay I'm not even going to finish again. I would have to cut it down I think.
I think that would have been the key to do like old school bonus round which was not like an actual playthrough as much as it was just like I played through a portion and then we cut it down. Right but then like I've noticed that like well when we had the highlights reel of our of your Arkham stream that one didn't do as well as it could have or at least it should have and that was just highlights. It was like a 15-minute long video. Okay it could also be because that game's a little older.
It could be. Thank you Tim McElay for your support we do appreciate it man. Yeah that could be. As far as video game stuff though it would have to be like very I don't know specific and it would have to be like more like a video for it to work unless it's like a newer comic book or a video game you know.
Yeah maybe then probably. Luke Verrillo says thoughts on Jonah Hill as Penguin Orbidler and the other cast members for The Batman and what about rumors of Robin popping up in the new saga by Reeves. Jonah Hill what do you think? Riddler Penguin either?
I'd rather him as the Penguin I guess. Yeah I don't want him as Riddler I'll tell you that. Yeah between those two. Between the you know Jonah Hill and the cast I would just be like making Bullock and move on.
Oh that's good. Right like a real younger you know Bullock maybe like he's just he's instead of being grizzled he's a cynical I don't know but I just keep Jonah Hill away from those characters. I want some I want some really fun actors to play those characters and not not Jonah Hill. What do you think about Robin first first real Robin on screen outside of the Chris O'Donnell garbage what do you think about that idea of starting with Robin?
I do love that idea because starting with Robin there indicates that they would gloss over an origin story and just be like and here's Batman. Right this is Batman I like the Batman made series approach where it's like some episodes you have Robin and other times you don't the trick is to just age him up you don't make him too too old but you don't make him too too young and just do what they did because it's like then you could still do adventures with Batman with Robin or without Robin it doesn't make sense that Robin isn't there but it also makes sense that Robin would show up yeah although honestly like for me like my purest Batman has no nobody like it's just Batman and Alfred right and then maybe Robin do yeah yeah well I'll tell you this I'll take Robin over back girl just because I'm like I don't like the idea of back girl being first because like she's not part of the family she's outside the family she's also like I like to the idea like when back girl first came on the scene you know Commissioner Gordon's daughter but she hadn't like but Batman didn't know who she was or the very least didn't want to know and that helped because it allowed for Batman at plausible divinability against like lying to his like partner on the force it also allows for like Gordon to not look like a rube yeah so uh Kam sense is yay for Tiffany on the show can take my coins thank you thank you very much man as far as your comic on goes you know we don't do a lot of panels you don't really go to those I like to just hit the floor and just like and just go basically from like one into the other unless there's something specific that I wanted to get or see yeah what about you what's your what's your like strategy for the show you know it's funny the strategy for the show is typically we always hit the main floor first but inevitably I really like going and starting over in the block for some reason definitely I don't know why yeah it's like New York Comic Con light over there it is like dipping your foot into the pool you kind of get to feel for what's going on I don't like to spend too much time typically on the floor initially because it's like I want to get a feel for the con as a whole so like unless there's something that's like oh my gosh I had this opportunity to get something right now limited edition something like that I typically don't stop for too long in anyone booth when we initially get there because I also want to get down to ours alley to get a feel for that yes ours alleys like the main events so to speak because like I find that there's always somebody there that we that we either need or really really want to get a signature from or meet as we get further into the industry and further into this this job I've noticed that like we treated a lot more like a trade show or a lot more like an actual business experience because like always somebody that I want to like see or talk to that's related to this you know I love the floor and I like hitting it and that's why I like to go on Sunday because it's number one where all the deals are number two it's no one who is a professional who would want to do business is either there or if they are they're not conducting business anymore like no it's true for me the best times on the floor Thursday because it is much lighter especially during work hours like I think it's people getting off from work in New York obviously it picks up a little bit um but it's always it's always a nice time to just get a feel for that you want to come back to later or to also be like okay I saw others xyz experience like for example this year sony had a presence there um but their predator game yeah if you want to play that Thursday was going to be the best time to go and play that because the lines are at the shortest oh yeah um really terms of experiences or like getting photos and stuff like that Thursday's a great time for it in my opinion oh definitely no well that's kind of like I remember when Thursday as you mentioned was like the press day I didn't really notice it being that way at all like we've we've had press passes for a long time and so we've been able to go on those kinds of days and while I noticed it was lighter and I was like oh this is much better um most people professionally took that as an opportunity not to go um so there were a lot fewer people you like either wanted to get a signature from or wanted to meet up with and right but again if you wanted experiences which is often what I was looking for early on you know what I mean like that was a good time to do it that's true um I also wanted to change talk to companies right well that's the big thing and it was funny I don't know about you but like we've talked to a lot of different companies over the years and we've definitely tried to work out like brand deals sponsorships uh you know collaborations of some kind and uh this is irrespective of youtubers and other colleagues it's always had to do with companies um I've every time we've done it uh and it doesn't matter what day it is Thursday Saturday um we invariably get a rep who's like oh yeah I don't do that but let me get the person who does then the person who does shows up and the person who does is like hey that sounds great let me give you my card oh I'm out of cards you it's I'll take your card and then you hear from again and it's over and I'm like how is it that you do any business like and I've done we've done it so many different ways like and I've done it with other more successful colleagues I think Benny will be fine with me mentioning his name but like a couple of times Benny and I've gone to like companies that sell collectibles I don't want to get too specific so we'll just collectibles and it's like then you'll be like I dropped some serious coin on this also I have like 2.7 million subscribers and blah blah and they react to him the same exact way they did to us we're like cool that sounds great I'm never gonna call you and you're like what are you doing here like you have ten thousand dollars worth of merchandise just out in the open that could be sneezed on and bumped into by anyone with wings of which there are hundreds and and and like you're not selling you're not selling collectibles you know like these are here for you know for people to purchase or for people to plan on purchasing their proof of concept more than they are like you know I've seen definitely I'm with me anyway but like he's like I want this one oh we don't have that here this is just a display model we don't have that I'm like what the hell if you're not working with people and you're not selling these things then what is this just just just letting people know that you exist is that worth the like I don't know it is that it's worth it is worth two thousand dollars a table yeah it is I mean like when you think about entire trade shows that are dedicated just one industry that's very much what this is you know like these people are there to market and that that's why two markets to get the products in front of your face yes but while there is a heavily traffic show to get people in front of your product wouldn't it be more I don't know let's say you have like 600 people to walk by your booth and they were like I want this not only did you not sell it to them but you did remind them it exists now they gotta go like I remember this exists I'll go to my house and then I'll order it online like is that better than just going like oh I'm glad I got the attention of things you can order there in fact there's larger booths you can pre-order things and get that rolling so like they're counting on the foot traffic coming through there and finding out a product that they might not normally even do exist it they're not counting on the people already they have you know what I mean like people who are purchasing from them they're not really counting on you you're already getting their emails you're already like aware of their their business as a whole but like this is their opportunity to get new business right no you're definitely right about that um but I figured like wouldn't it make sense to work with I don't know for lack of a better term when I hate using it but influencers are people who are like hey here's this thing that is awesome I endorse it and think it's great there's a link below you can buy it directly like I think that they're you have a better potential for sales if you if it's like the barrier to entry isn't I physically see it in the store I hope I remember to buy it one day as opposed to like I'm looking at it on the screen and I'm and a trusted source is saying that this is cool I can click this and I'll own it now right now that said that you know that is also fairly targeted as well and a lot of times companies have multi-faceted marketing plans you know what I mean yeah like everyone's always talking about how digital is always like those like the new frontier and that's where everybody's going to it and everyone in let's say like educational industry which I can speak to with some knowledge doesn't like a print which seems like it would be dead print is dead right we all say but they're wrong but like there's always a portion of that budget that goes there so like there's like all these different facets of it it could just be that these larger companies have tried that and I found that the return on it wasn't what they were looking for and so they're sticking with these methods right now the fact is a lot of these products they're getting free press off of just like someone walking up to the booth taking a photo of it and putting it on Instagram snapchat Twitter you know what I mean like it's true they just got the product out there right there and then they paid time that's fair well that's true yeah if you if you have like a thousand people walk by your booth every day and half of them take a photo of it hashtag it or at the very least get it to their followers or vice versa you're basically just like create an army of influencers who are preventing your product exactly but it certainly well that certainly does lend credence or at least I'll shut a light on the factor as to why people who are looking to work with these companies are given the cold shoulder because it's like I'm not you're so not in our wheelhouse like I'm not thinking about making contacts with anyone who would be interested in these things I have a we have a plan and it's in motion and that's the end of it but certainly we use the the show to try those kinds of opportunities we've had some successes and some less than successes with those kinds of experiences I know that like we worked with a company one time who existed they created they came out in New York on like we're here we are we love you do we thought it'd be great if you did this we did and then they went out of business and that was the end of it but it went nothing no fault to ours that was you know at the time I boxes yes it's all the boxes they're still there they just don't they just don't they're still there they're still at the show they were still at the show I actually purchased stuff from them no way well I know that they um well no because we ran into the our representative last year was on the street with us and he's like yeah I got fired that company got fired but like I think the company went in like just a different direction and so like now they still do some of their boxes but like it's less like mailing and more like here's the box you can purchase it as a gift but they also sell everything out of those boxes and they're making a lot of individual products yes they have a pushing license if that gives you any ideas to the booth I was referring to oh yeah no I know I know which talk about that would definitely them yeah yeah they um they also as I remember they had some deal with like I think it was GameStop or something this is of course GameStop themselves are like close to chapter 11 themselves sure but again I think that's an example of an industry that started as like oh hey I think this is like where we're gonna be going with this is what our marketing plan is gonna be and then over time they re-evaluate that marketing plan and like what it was that they were doing as a company and so they've completely like not rebranded but like reorganized themselves in one a different way yeah yeah that's true in addition to that kind of networking we also of course like to work with like other peers I know that like I had a list of people who had reached out to me during the week leading up to your comic on who were like hey we haven't talked to me about a year we should definitely hook up and I'm like okay yeah let's do that and I think we met with everybody there's only one we didn't but like that was just poor timing on our part was it I don't know who it was it's the person you had on the show on Els World oh no we ran into them I think we're thinking about an art writer oh yeah no that did not work out yeah they were available no no and like again like we like when we were able to get down to their area it was like clearly it was out of lunch time or whatever you know whatever you know it was just just could not it was just well it was a hectic show and if you're especially like less less youtubers and more like comic creators if they're busy you know there's that that they're there for this like they're there to like chat with us they're there to like mostly talk to editors I mean like you've heard Snyder talk at length about his schedule at New York Comic Con in Wisconsin general but more specifically New York because that's where a lot of like the same people are well particularly the same like big wigs like if if Scott is like a pitch he can actually go to New York Comic Con and talk to like DeDio and like pitch that right there and then and they do and they have like meetings like that well what about they do they don't even need to be in the same room anymore so this is an opportunity to actually make that connection that's right that's right and well especially if like let's say like some of the kids are something and they don't have time so spend after the after hours used to be you know you go to like a bar or you meet up afterwards or you like you know you leave a little early and hit up like you know a restaurant now it's like I gotta go home my kids like you know gotta go bed yeah exactly but yeah so but we didn't get to talk about him we can mention it he's cool like he's fine yeah it was uh Josh Williamson Josh Williamson was like we should look up and I'm like we should and every time I went to his booth he was busy and when I say busy I mean physically not there yeah again that's on us yeah that was on me yeah giving it a shot and then like we would be like all right we'd get back down there and you know this issue that I should put artist alley in a larger hall how it felt more cramped than ever I don't know that's possible yeah I think it might have just been they have more people because like yeah the layout wasn't bad no the layout was fine I think what it was was they suffered from that like okay we have more room and people complaining it was like cramped any other all like all that we had it in yes so now we have a larger hall we'll just put more like a higher percentage of people in there it's like that doesn't actually solve the problem no no no well the problem the problem with the York Comic Con isn't always has been the Jaffet Center well once I think once they finish their construction everything will be much better I mean I I loved old artist alley I thought it was phenomenal I know it was kind of further off and so sometimes the artist felt like they were away from the con but it was so much easier to actually like you know have a larger population of artists and you know con goers in that area yes and how to feel like so claustrophobic and allow you to actually find the artist you want to see oh I know that was yeah you're you're talking about the wing like the inside yeah I mean they're gonna do something I preferred I mean this is my favorite artist alley was when it was in the press area area upstairs and there but it was a combination of actors number one the press area well was carpeted it was it had a nice natural light it felt really like comfortable and pleasant to hear and moreover it was like almost 10 years ago and so like or more than 10 years ago and so as such like there were just fewer people there you know like yeah it was just there were just too many people there or there should be too people now back then it was like you could literally walk up to anybody and just be like oh hey what's going on man like yeah and but like they were kind of like where is everybody so they figured it out like and they figured out they figured out how to put where to put everybody and how to market it it's just kind of like it's too bad because I do miss that I mean like that was basically it was basically Special Edition New York City which was the hardest alley but on a different day yeah and that was fun now there was another part of the entire part of the comic we even go to because they did have like an anime section of it going on elsewhere you had to always do yeah but like not anywhere near the building so I got to ever made it no I didn't go either I never do because like why would you have two shows at the same time and the only reason you do that is because you don't want to spend the money to have two shows yeah I mean it could just be too that they don't want to buy their audience that like they feel like enough people who enjoy anime also enjoy some facet of comics and like the vendors who go there and so maybe they found that the vendors didn't want to pay for two different days and so they just had it all one kind of time frame that like you know what I mean yeah no I hear you um ours alley is really fun though um and especially like the bigger the show I don't know like it's it's funny New York Comic Con Baltimore um and Special Edition were kind of like my favorite I guess Emerald City kind of counts with that too it's just like when you get this really really really nice cross-section of like really cool like creators and creators you never heard of were also kind of amazing and and getting them all kind of in this one place like that's really amazing um and and and you know spacing timing basically every all the factors need to be in place for you to have like access because it this year and in previous years um you've seen that a lot of like the higher profile creators are represented by like a like a management company yes and as such like they so all these particular creators are in one like cluster and that cluster is typically crammed in the corner and as such it because almost the closer you get to that cluster the harder it is to get to those creators and it just becomes a mess and it's like we didn't like there there was a handful of creators that we would have loved to have talked to or the really like quote for a second and like hey do you want to do anything or like hey good to see again does that it was impossible to do yeah because of the crowd um and it's like that's too bad I feel like you're screwing that up I feel like you're doing something wrong there well again that the area that they have you know had they removed a few tables might have helped you know what I mean or like maybe because there's literally there's like the artist's area in the one hall and the next hall was the cue hall for some of the larger um like panels but also um celebrities yep you could have taken part of that and maybe put um on the outskirts area some of the larger like represented groups over there because you want to keep them close to artist alley so that the um more independent artists also get like some press because they're walking up and down trying to find the artists that you're looking for maybe see something that you didn't know existed yes um so like they're like a double story there because sometimes those lines also block booths and so like then they don't get any play but if you take all of them out then sometimes um you know people don't have to like they need to go into that area well and and we found that like egos are a big deal and so if you were to like move the like this cluster but not another cluster then the other cluster that wasn't moved to like a special priority area will be like why wasn't i why and i warrant being in the in the priority area right and again you don't call the priority area you just say it becomes the priority it becomes the priority area but it's like hey this this you know this company we're putting them over here which leads people into artist alley yeah no i know i hear you or just set up a cue area better in the back it needs to be both i think because like it's just right now it's a mess um luke vera verrillo says what was the most popular cause by this year in New York still Deadpool and harley i didn't see too many dead pools and harleys i saw like there was a crowd of dead pools at one point that was annoying but like yeah i didn't really notice a big cluster of either dead pool or harley quenice no no no um in terms of like the consistent like oh another one i wasn't really even really observant of that usually i am and this year i just wasn't there like mentally yeah i feel like i didn't see too many copies but i also didn't really get a chance to really head out to the cosplay area because there's like an unspoken now more spoken cosplay area it's like food trucks outdoor area that's where the cosplayers kind of go because you get better shots outside obviously um but also the press area is now the cosplay area so you can upstairs too yeah there's that too um but you know that said you know if you're playing cosplay bingo you better well know that we definitely saw at least one lee lee allis because i definitely did nice i didn't see her this time but i do yeah like you're always gonna see a lee lee allis from fifth element like every time yeah oh yeah um what was it adam thinhouse says keep them lights on thank you very much thank you any plans to go to c2e2 no um not soon um now that absolute comics which is a new podcast i'm doing with any uh from comic story and uh is in play probably uh but it used to be it was just so prohibitively expensive to go to sicago get a rote get a hotel because it's like for me and for tibany as well uh when we go it's like we go to meet with colleagues and have a good time and it's around the corner from us it's ideally it's a 45 minute drive yeah um chicago is considerably more it's a plane ride and a hotel room whereas with new york it's literally just like you got to pay for the bridge and tunnel but like you know with easy pass a little cheaper but in any case you're going to new york you're coming home that night yeah i'm spending you know realistically about 10 hours in the city um or with travel and everything outside of that you're kind of like well if i go to if i go to a faraway city it's like i better make it worth my while and it'd have to earn me something and with shows like emerald city and c2e2 if we're not like invited or if one aspect isn't paid for in some way lodging or airfare that doesn't pay to go because i want to meet everybody in like sia or chicago los angeles and i want to go to those it's the only reason i don't go to san diego just because like i would love to go it's really expensive it's hard to find a hotel and uh i don't make any money going yeah no it's true uh kansaf production says 2021 that man and spiderman 3 what an amazing year yeah man i can't wait it's exciting yeah it's my two favorite superheroes get in the movies one at the beginning and one possibly at the end who knows but i'm dying i'm hyped as if so yeah helping us out thank you so much man t monday um but one of the yeah soon sooner than later if we don't get this or next week then we're not gonna do it uh mr smart person says i got a new job here's positivity money thank you very much oh congratulations mr vato any good convention eats second you put fans in awe uh as far as convention eats go tiffany found a great spot and in the convention um so tell them about it it's about career we have a national javitt center in the javitt center we found a place that was actually not back typically eat in the javitt center typically we will go outside of the javitt center and like just you know use Yelp and just check out what's in the area yeah but one day in particular um i think it was actually friday it was after the the signing we just ran out of time yep like we were like we wanted to check out the rest of the floor so we don't leave the convention center went downstairs and you know they have that big area down there where they do like the burgers and the chicken fingers and like oh it's a cool convention food yeah there's a couple of other foods back in that area one is up and odd as i thought they were kind of pricing i'm sure they were very good one is pizza guys first of all let me just say if you're gonna get pizza don't get at the convention center just don't like literally if you just take a walk up to the port or do you can get like dollar like slices of pizza yeah you know what blew my mind about that really quick we went to lunch um benny and i uh along with colleague during uh i think it was saturday or sunday show and um we got pizza it was six dollars a slice just a place that was ten blocks up yeah but that was also it was also a specialty kind of it was just regular pizza it was just some street pizza trust me it was regular pizza but in the convention it was five dollars a slice and it was like we saw people eating it and like if you had it and you liked it that's all the good on you man but it looked like there was no crispness to it at all which i was like you got two brothers by port authority to work it took care yeah um there's a great place they were out of everything this little korean rice ball place that's the place to go yeah korean rice balls yes but you got a full complete meal and it's ready to go instantaneously because they're constantly making food and it was really good i actually think it was good and it was fast and that's what you need because every day i've had a fast four we like our food and we're eating it before the rest of the team got back with the other stuff that they went to go grab yeah as far as food at the show if you're going to like a major show like this is concerned my recommendation uh and i know tiffy's gonna have on herself is to eat before the show yeah um not like yeah i wouldn't like go out and have yourself like a huge breakfast i would like grab a bagel or something beforehand just to give you the energy slash like satiation you need in order to walk around um but tiffy likes to pack snacks so that like throughout the day you can like you if you're like oh man i'm feeling kind of low and i don't and i know to plan to eat next it'll take like an hour you know you bring some uh some new jereen bars with you or something all right yeah no it's very true like literally like i um on the day before con or like a couple days before con um i hit up a grocery store and i just grab a bunch of snacks and like various things because using i'm also planning for the crowd that we have like a group that goes with us um just to make sure i have something in case they want they typically tend to bring their own things but not all of them do so like i just grab little things not like entire like meal sets necessarily but like healthy options i know it will give me that feeling of being full and also give me some good energy because there's nothing worse than feeling bad when you're at a con so like that's not the time to like try brand new snacks or like get something that you know might make you like feel like upset like give you heartburn or anything like that just make stuff i get little like packs of almonds we have like kind of bars um refillable like drink containers are like really really important the jab at center in particular now has those like just put it up and there's like a stream that will fill the bottle up for you they do have water fountains everywhere um just has something with you so that like you know staying hydrated is so important so you know you have to do that at all times yeah it's try to stay open getting coffee if at all possible at the convention center it will always be more expensive than anywhere else get it on the way have something at home before you you head out anything you can do to like not have to deal with that also the line will be out of control and you've already spent some time there that you could have spent on the floor you know exactly uh john hall broke just helping us out very much thank you so much john very kind uh will i have golden my only problem your calm calm there's nowhere to sit so there are and there yes i know what you're talking about um so there's always this i if i wire lounge which you set a lot of stuff in it but now literally was just a lounge area had um so tables and chairs and some charging stations so you could get a spot up there you can have a seat there there's also the stairs that lead up to the press lounge i typically just let folks sit on those because they're like two um which will help you put up later next to them so you're probably okay there also if you go all the way downstairs there is a little room and with like one sign on it that just is quiet room yep and my understanding is i didn't go in at this year but i peaked in it before it's just literally a room for if things are becoming a little overwhelming or it's just too loud it's just a place to go and just take a minute yeah and i think they do have seating in there yeah and this is the second year that i saw that um they created little like other lounges downstairs near the like handle rooms and stuff like that last year with the cheerio lounge this year it was the watchman lounges it was a watchman and they also had seating in there charging stations that kind of thing yes so um my advice would be like if you're if you're overwhelmed you know get out of the main floor go to the ancillary areas um and find an area like usually um below the you know between the top and the bottom levels there's a there's a stairwell and a lot of people are sitting in that area um right but it's basically the the huge stairwell that leads to the main um panel hall is an area where a lot of people sit down but you're right it's there's no like bench yeah there's no like dedicated seating um but you can find you know little areas here and there and they don't like if you go and sit on the like if you're on the main floor and you go over to where the bathroom escalator exit situation is typically if one people just kind of take a minute and sitting down you don't usually get flack for sitting in that area if you do sit in the aisles of the actual con floor you'll say that's a fire hazard but over there seems to be okay so if you see some folk having a seat and you feel like you need to sit down i'd head over to those areas it also doesn't hurt to plan out like breaks um particularly lunch break you know where you're like i need to go and once you have like a plan in place and you can go there sit down take it easy for a good hour and then return to the show there's nothing you're gonna miss outside of like panels right right and that's another area too like if you know that like i i want to plan to have a break here and you're there's a panel you have you're interested in go to that yeah that's another great thing probably gonna get a seat there um if you get there early enough so you could actually just go to a panel that you if you look at the program you're like that's a panel i'm gonna go to go to go to that panel have a seat yeah go through your stuff you know um exactly fill the area mr. ronces sal you plan you plan the trip we comic poppers will help that's one thing i i refuse to do i just i'm like i use money that we make from the channel you know the finances and things but i'm not gonna like kick-started or ask you guys no no in great kind of you guys to think about like that's our responsibility to get out and also like make them pay like no like you guys don't pay for it like make marvel dc valiance whoever like pay for us to go out like they got the they have a they have budgets and finances and they spend it on ludicrous things so like let them pay for us to come out talk about their shit if they're gonna if they're not gonna then i'll pay for it if i think it's worthy but otherwise forget that no you don't pay for it you don't need a shoulder the burden that accompanies pay for it but yeah so like as far as like post-mortem when it comes to this con um any takeaways any big like you know like oh that was a like we did this this and this i know that like we like i was like i was saying before we um you know we ran into a lot of colleagues like uh i bumped into thorky and two non-consecutifications yes um by the way hopefully thorgia's feeling well apparently had surgery the other day oh my god and i hope he's a host con yeah that post-con wow i mean like that makes more sense i was good planning i know i know he tweeted about it which is why i feel comfortable saying something okay it wasn't like person wasn't like he's like all surgery like no like he mentioned it the thing i'm like well i didn't know that and he looked quite well so i don't know but i'm glad he's um i i'm hope he's doing well but he also mentioned like you know but we because we want to know him we're like hey man you gotta come on the show he's like i had a great time i would love to come out do this that and the other thing so like thorgia will hopefully and barely come down to the studio and we'll shoot with him yeah we also got a big chance to pump into toy galaxy dan larson yes uh that was a really fun treat because we've never met in person he lives way up north and uh but he does like to hit up the shows and he he's one of those people who like we hadn't spoken directly probably since we did the else world exchange episode he was on and uh but we had like back and forths on on twitter and uh he dm'd me the other day like before the show and he's like i'm gonna be there on saturday we should hook up and i was like well that was cool i was like yeah man let's do it and uh and sure enough like uh he reached out to me on saturday i read out to him i'm like hey man i'm here i'm good like i had a good window of time where i was like hey i'm not doing anything right now uh this is where i am he's like well i'm near there so i'll meet you up with you and uh and he met up with me and in fact i clandestinely set up two meetups at the same time because another another artist friend of ours also went hookup and he was like where are you right now and i'm like i'm here and i was talking to dan i'm like i'm here too so like uh Rory came met up with us first i talked him for a little while and as he were winding down then dan came by and so it was very three's company i was like oh no no no no no what do i do um that was great i've danced really tall i did not expect that at all and let's be honest your team is very professional oh yeah you guys really put you really put our best foot forward with that um danistrol he wore like a big long black coat he looked like he looked like a like a i don't know he looked like a cool character from something with a fun toy galaxy but he came up and he was like you're tall and i'm like you're tall dude what are you talking about yeah i mean i'm talking for like a half hour just about the process about the yeah just funny because he rolled up he was lovely so hello to each of us who were there as i've been myself and danielle and then you guys just started talking and ben had this moment where he was like should we go should we leave should we leave i don't know i feel like if we leave then it's gonna make it seem like dan should wrap up yeah he should wrap up but he shouldn't but like if we hang out there then maybe he'll feel a pressure there so we're like having this like crisis behind like all this conversation going on and then like i was like okay all right let's just sneak away except sounds back on the floor so we like snuck that up behind sal's leg while he was chatting yep and so i was like all right we'll leave so we left and i was like oh you know we'll go behind the booth behind dan and we'll tell sal you know via like pantomime that we're gonna go and walk and and check out the show and it'll be perfect it's gonna be perfect so we got behind dan and i started pantomimeing yourself and salting me to react to us and then wave which may dan turn around and then we just ran away as fast as we put it out so you know i want to apologize to dan if somehow he's watching this is a very extreme bizardness no i was just like all right well i was like well they left yep i'm like well they're gonna go he's like he's like okay so we like with great conversation uh we also were like we need to do something and then we ended the show he's like well i gotta go i'm like yeah man because he had business context to talk to and um and i was like yes that was great i'll talk to later and we we left that and then he messaged me again he's like we should have done that selfie thing that everyone does you know that the kids do and i was like you know i always feel bad about doing that like whenever we want to a colleague um i've seen it happen not i've never seen the bad part like when we went to dc it was just for influencers so like influencers and it was just people but it was people who professionally are influencers in la and we when we met with people you know like i saw them all interacting where they're like oh good you're here let's do a selfie and i feel so stupid doing that i just feel like such a jackass asking for that um and so and dan and i like are pretty much like around like in the same demographic and so neither of us asked for that and he's like oh for demographic yeah and he was like i guess we should have probably done a selfie i think our followers would have really dug it and i was like yeah man i guess that's true and then literally we bumped into him the next day and i was like hey let's get a selfie i was like oh my son artist allie and this time we just sent salivar i was like oh man it's it's dandruff toy galaxy i was like i know i i called him out i feel like i know i know i know i know i just went yeah but we did that and so we had to picture that and that was fun um yeah so thorgie and dan and uh and she has a chat with creators which was nice um yes in a bad way that was great um jim sub for a little bit which was a delight as always that guy is literally living his dream right now i mean he loves dnd and he's getting to write the rick and re d book as well as these dnd books that they're doing um with wizards of the that are like introductions for like middle grade readers and unabove just like these little like you know for a into dnd for like younger folk to understand it and i was like that's incredible like he's combined his love of writing with dnd like and he's making money right well and he's a talented writer so it's not like it's just kind of weirded like he's doing a great job um jim also mentioned he might come on the show so you know it's great yeah i would love that i would love to play with uh with jim on the other world's exchange i also found that he is a tremendous conan fan yes yeah in a big way like old school has read the books has read the source material just really passionate about conan so like i was like wow that's incredible so he helped keep the torch lit for conan over at marvel it's true uh he that was a fun experience we talked about no surrender a little bit of interest no surrender um and uh so i brought over my hardcover and uh i was like hey man would you mind uh and he's like of course not and then he turned over to allowing and he was like oh you got to sign this and allowing i don't know if you've ever met allowing or seen allowing but he's like he's like allen more begins he's got a big beard he's english he has a really deep voice and he doesn't want to bother he's just such a sweet little like he's just a sweet englishman he's just like no i saw him when we were doing our signing he walked by the booth and i'm like oh you're great he's like thanks and then he ran away because he's like i don't want to be recognized yeah uh but yeah like but al got to the sign the sign that's not the thing too he'll never come on the show there's no way all you're going to do that no based on his personality he's such a sweet dude he's like i don't want to do it and you've heard you just yeah plus now he's like oh he just did your allowing more in pressure but uh sweet guy but that was fun um uh yeah uh we also um through our contacts over at uh at valiant um we were able to do some stuff for absolute comics which is a podcast i do with benny um in which uh valent was like hey listen like we got this bloodshot movie coming out we got this action figure that we had commissioned uh well made it's not like it's only one figure they're producing this figure from the carlin toys so like we got tom McFarland come over to booth and he's gonna talk about bloodshot would you want to do an interview with him and so uh benny and i chatted with tom McFarland which was like a really rare pleasure as well i've never met tom McFarland i never will again and we had a really really fun conversation um he clearly didn't see the spawnomino episode uh because if he did i think he would have been a little less receptive but he was still like i think i was very complimentary i called him the modern day stanley i think that's pretty nice but uh wow we had a good we had a good conversation and we had a great interview and you'll see that on hopefully the next episode of absolute comics right i'm excited yeah if i got to shake his hand he was very like very strong grip very cold hands uh it was fun it was cool i got to be like hey congratulations on the game spoke of world records like what'd it go man he's like yeah yeah they uh they'll put you know put like the guy who ate the biggest sandwich in the world but it takes this to get comics in there what the hell i was like yeah man i heard you saying that was fun yeah uh jumping into the super tries really quick uh can't say production says did you read this week's amazing spider-man i think who kindred is so obvious that i might turn out to be a lame surprise twist it was pretty cool nonetheless i've not read it yet i look forward to checking it out um my theory was it was harry i was born soul we'll see what happens um i don't know i'm sure the next day i'm sure the issue will throw it away i feel like if two people guess it they change it like they change it so you never know um wookie drew says thanks to all for all that you do what's the craziest thing you've ever seen at con what's the most expensive expensive thing at a con you had to have and took home um great question thank you very much wookie drew yeah craziest thing we were kesod con uh first year frank miller is doing a signing uh the company that was doing the signing uh wanted to give up wristbands because they needed to give up wristbands to limit the amount of people who got the signing um they decided the best way to disperse the wristbands was to stand in the middle of a crowd of probably a thousand people and just lift them in the air i remember that it was like it was the close thing of the zombie apocalypse i've ever been near i was actually more afraid for you because like you were a fralium lady who was in the middle of like like now but a couple hundred people i wanted to bring back back then that was your first con ever mind to but like your first new york comic con nowadays you've been like you would have gotten a wristband you were right next to this guy and he completely it was just it was scary and it was overwhelming and it was too it was too much yeah that was the things were made that was the same year that the fire marshal came so yes yeah kick it right out so which was i've never seen that before i've never seen a fire marshal like i've seen fire marshal show up to certain things but like not to a professional convention that's what's everything like under wraps and i've gone through all the correct channels um show up and say like you can't let these people in yeah and like almost get separated from you yeah yeah yeah as far as expensive things go um that i had to have i'm trying to think if there's anything we've ever really that we bought that like that we had to have that was from the show we're very frugal individuals let's be honest i appreciate all of the incredibly like expensive items out there and there if and times i'm like maybe we should just get that maybe we should just get that but typically i haven't gone for it we almost this year pre-ordered a um teenage unit Ninja Turtles arcade cabinet yes they like um level up i think they are one up or something like that um games they make these like little like arcade machines that could sit on your table yep or on a counter or something and then you can find them at like wall bar whatever they made cabinets that were in between those small table top ones any full size one yeah get a little riser for it and it's got the four you know um controller set up so like it's almost like playing at a real arcade cabinet size but like you can actually fit in your home right that wasn't bad yeah that was pretty cool that we almost bought almost but again no i don't think so do you feel like i really really would if we had the room for it i would have loved to have picked up that alien warrior um statue from Sideshow yeah i've never bought a Sideshow statue before um that was from the show that i've always wanted to but like you know let me cool um thank you for the things we purchased from a con that was like on the more costly side but we did get a discount on it um was an iron man helmet that was on the set for a while if it's not now no it's not uh it should go back though it's bored yeah it's big old gold state uh how we got that like right before where we got the studio so and that was cool we got that from toy con yeah that was we had to have that uh mr abato says tiff what do you think a scar like a sea of the hulk just in general like the idea of of hulk having this like sun floating around out there doing hulk things i guess or like specifically yeah i think that's it um i mean conceptually speaking the idea of the hulk having a a sun with like a crazy warrior woman is like kind of cool yeah um but like in terms of like what the hulk is and like what the hulk was originally created for it's kind of bizarre because like the hulk is meant to be like this like jennel and hide you know allegory you know like the like you know like who was the true monster and like what have you like that kind of like play that you can do with it and you introduce a kid who doesn't really have that problem i guess and it's like okay right i don't know uh silver cricket says any thoughts of contagion while i have two dollars um if you're talking about uh like batman contagion i haven't read it in a long time but i've liked the idea of like an outbreak in gotham that was cool idea and the uh and the uh and not like just being sick from going to con um but yeah no i think it's cool uh it's short it's fun the antidote situation was like meh but otherwise i dug it uh yeah so as far as like the con goes uh new york comic con gets bigger and more complicated every year there's always like something like they're doing that like you know makes it so it's not ideal you know like they're doing construction or like the ticket system is a nightmare or like you know whatever um but i love that show i love going um it's also great because like because we're so close to it we can never miss it and most people we'd like to work with who might not also be local can't miss it so it allows them to come to us in a in a in a in a cost-effective way so it's like not just like they have to come to new jersey and come to our studio and go like what is this as well now it's like no we're all here you should come to the studio and they're like okay i'm having fun so that they'll still go what is this but at least they had a good time at the show right right now it's true i grabbed because you know it's funny is that uh new york comic con as much as people say it's not about comics anymore and i totally get that to some degree because it's just like there's the most random booths there yeah they hallmark booth and the hallmark that booth is there because it's part of the pop culture of it all but i did grab your iron spider that you picked up yes you did um so this is like a hallmark room that they had they're doing their con exclusives um but um i'm sure to be at other places it's all metal it's an all-metal iron spider which is like that's cool it is very cool i really liked it i was we had to get that i also have to give a shout out because like guys i'm sure we'll talk about this more about inside edition book that sal had that was he was sent here the spider-book grandbook which is beautiful if you're looking for gifts or something for yourself this year inside edition is a great place to go i picked up the overwatch cookbook which just came out which i am in love with it's so amazing so like that wasn't for anybody except for me right i just i just love this like so much this type of book amazing so that's cool and uh they've got all kinds of things are coming out with a star trek it had to like fight like kirk book which i was like that's great doing me out of savage no but he was literally on a stage nearby and actually who knows if we did because he usually does a big cosplay which i don't know if he did or did not that's like a toe maybe was that car that we saw right uh yeah okay just real quick i just want to just i pick this up from the udon booth nice follow me sato pin because who because whoever gets a mazato pin besides you because this is the best and i love her right anyway let's do okay uh silver cricket has another whole question he says do you think i'm abomade's show will return to being a hulk in immortal hulk since he's the only one that's ever been on the level of banner uh not i think he's gonna be in immortal hulk but i mean i think he might appear in the book but i don't think he's ever gonna be a hulk again in that series he'll be a hulk again because everything's cyclical in comics and he'll be back there's a huge cholias joe hulk fan base but i don't think that you want us to talk about that okay uh garris is six superman 16 wolf i didn't read it i don't read superman anymore uh but but i saw the plug i think it's that super sons returns it's john is a teenager and damey is a little boy so i've ruined super sons but just in case you were wondering if it's ruined here it is so yeah i can imagine it was probably wrecked uh grievoush says i skate the con plague also just saw joker glad to see you guys recovering from the con pretty well thank you very much man great meeting you at the show um and uh yeah yeah yeah i'm glad yeah that's the other thing nobody talks about is like getting sick from the con you're starting with thousands of people you're touching probably gonna have everyone's touching everything everyone's breathing on everything like it's just accidental i can't say like how important it is to have hand sanitizer with you i'm not saying that like it's because they're going around you scroves or whatever literally it's just too many people you know what i mean like germs are going to spread yes it's true uh and uh and adam grove says what oh what i have to do to get you all to go to nashville comic con now if you're talking about the like wizard world nashville show which i think might be it because wizard world buys up all the local shows um it would have to be like that they brought us out and like for that kind of show they have to like fly us out and put us up yeah otherwise because that's kind of it because the guest is the best show i'm using i'd love to go there yeah nashville's cool well i've never been hot chicken right is that is that what it is is that correct i think there's a i think there's a barbecue sauce that the nashville themed i thought it was hot chicken but now maybe i'm wrong likely i'm gonna let you know but uh correct me yeah right um as far as like yeah the show was it was a huge success we had great time more important uh we got some of our like stuff that has just been sitting in the office it's like waiting for you to be sold into your hands a lot of you got to buy it a lot of you guys got to meet us and hang out with us and that was super important uh to us that's one of my favorite things about the show is is meeting you and doing that no definitely absolutely sure like we also got our own like some stuff signed because like at the end of the day we're also complex fans so like we got to chat and like meet a bunch of creators um i met the entire isola team they were so lovely and just so like excited for people to come to their booth it was so nice yep you got uh you got to meet interview and get something signed from kalen bun yes yes and uh james tynan tynan the fourth in the fourth that's it that's how you say it officially you heard here first probably it's james tynan so you don't hear any why it's tynan yeah that is mouth into my ears james tynan the fourth i got to sign something scaling children um there's your there's your sweet new york comic con exclusive something's killing the children bandana from boom studios yes we also want to thank boom for giving us the opportunity of meeting with uh meeting with some incredible creators like kyron gillan like uh james tynan the fourth to do those interviews um and especially thank you to valiant for helping us out and hooking us up and making us like uh helping us get where we needed to be to to meet all of you and to make that happen um yeah before we go uh there are more super chats i will jump into them uh no that's it that's all of them listen you like video games watch tiffany play video games on twitch.tv slash comic pop tv next so you want to do that i mean you like video games you like tiffany you should check it out a lot of fun um you don't have to pay anything to follow the channel by the way but don't worry sure there's a link i'm gonna delete it later but it's a link right now in the description i know youtube doesn't like that that's that's that's like contraband man can't do it so go click it you can't do that but you know one of the big things that came out of the show uh was you produced some stickers for us that i'm really really happy about and we're going to sell them to you via patreon um if you're not familiar with patreon.com slash comic pop there's rewards and stuff like that but i don't want to make this new commercial patreon it's more that we're gonna create a tier because i don't have the finances to create an online store for you you were trying to figure out i don't know how this is gonna work this is i just i don't know i'm trying to figure logistics of this well i think the plan is we're just gonna create a tier that is the cost of the sticker you sign up for that specific tier then you it'll have your address i'll mail you the sticker and that'll be the end of it but what about people who are already part of it you see it i'll create a special tier that's just for that okay and then i'll just keep track of who's joined okay like you know well yeah i think maybe what i'll do is i'll create the tier i'll wait a month and at the end of the month i'll just send a ticket to everybody who's in that tier okay let's see i'll figure it out this is a freaking thing of this out it's gonna be great you know they'll be an official announcement yeah but yeah anyway yeah uh so what are you gonna play i'm gonna play code vane while i finish off drinking my code vane it was actually really good oh code vane is a drink yeah remember we got that game fuel code vane yes yeah that's what this was nice i was like i'll give that shot it's actually like favorite so far nice oh there you go uh if you're already a patreon patreon we should create a situation where you get stickers anyway especially if you're paying the reward i'm saying i mean i guess it's literally it's like it's like it's a tier than anyone above a certain tier but we only have so many stickers yeah so work that out i'm gonna figure this out and it's gonna be yeah yeah yes maybe what i'll do is i know i'll put a post right now i'll put a post on patreon and it's hey who wants a sticker who wants a sticker i have to see who you know who says yes and then i'll mail it to you based on your your patronage okay i like i like this i like making the sausage right here on stream anyway we don't think it's so much for hanging out with us uh you guys are in death yeah it's such a good idea right so we're gonna work out uh another next week hopefully another fun episode we're gonna try and get more guests on the show and yeah absolutely kind of like dug this version of it i don't know i'm not gonna be in a studio with you but i don't know there's something about this yeah yeah it's way better being five minutes away from me than being oh i like being next to you there's this for me like streaming on wednesday's as well yeah oh no it makes more sense maybe this is very like this is good this is working for me exactly and i also ask um i shot a whole bunch of random nobody wants to look at it footage at the con if we put together a like vlog kind of thing about the con and we put it that somewhere that wasn't the youtube channel would you care right no i'm not gonna be insulted if you say no i really i just wanted to do things because i had the camera yeah oh and finally uh we launched a new show it's on instagram slash facebook it's called on the cheap we recommend cheap books you can find at cons or comic bookstores i would recommend you check at instagram.com slash comic book officials so you can see the show yourself inside if you want to watch more stuff more stuff probably the con like for buying books is great do a lap first because literally we checked out a whole bunch of books while i was wondering around at one point with danielle i realized that we hit up a booth that was like all trades they had a sunday special it was six trades for 25 dollars right six trades 25 bucks that's not bad five dollars a piece or six for 25 whatever you wanted to do any trade they had hardcover softcover didn't matter how big it was that's well it was five dollars yeah so like and it wasn't just like you know useless like books that like either everybody has or they don't want it was a whole variety of stuff yeah so it was a really great find yeah i i toyed with the idea of grabbing all the books and showing them on the stream but i just didn't that's okay i picked up savage dragon volume one which uh it's one of the worst things ever i can't like it's supposed to be the first like six or seven issues in the book and it's like it's missing issues that's how like inconsistent it is that's a car what i'm what a disaster that is bizarre i picked up a four pack of floppies that was that was it gordon of gotham yeah gordon of gotham yeah i was like i have to check this out i have to know so yeah we'll see if there's enough outcry we'll definitely put on the channel but uh we'll see oh and uh gravish says uh now that i've crossed the rubicon of meeting you folks in person feels weird watching behind the stream well i know i know i know right three dimensions to us yeah yeah you know what the height differential is it's crazy but uh yeah well uh i i guess that's that in the meantime we're gonna have a tiffany stream and then after that we're gonna release back issues so stay tuned for that twitch.tv slash comp.tv to watch tiffany uh stay here uh probably about like what i don't know how long you stream for it now but watch her and she'll she'll segue you into an entire evening of comic op that's right but i'll let you know what the book is uh the book is uh gudgardner reborn i was kidding episode 300 oh no oh yes so i found three copies of that at that booth if you want to see more green lantern or gudgardner on this channel you got to watch that episode it's a good one it has it's it's ethan is involved and you just wait and see how much he enjoys this book ooh forgot to mention uh did you miss us did you not get to go to your comic on or you in new jersey or near new jersey if you want to meet us and see us again october 26th you will see us at zap comics we're gonna be doing an event i don't know what it is we're shooting we're meeting you who knows but like go to zap comics in way new jersey on october 26th and uh we'll do a big thing i'm gonna make more announcements about it soon but like i wanted to mention like after the show october 26th it's saturday from four i think to six or four to eight i don't remember how long it is but it starts at four zap comics in way new jersey the whole team's gonna be there we hope to see you there we're very we're very excited we don't even know what we're doing we're very excited yeah we have no idea also we're going to baltimore so yeah we're not sure which days we're not don't go for i day i wouldn't like i don't know if we won't be there friday i'm sure probably we'll definitely be there saturday yeah it's my mission we'll see you we'll see you in vultimore if not october 26th saturday we'll see you zap comics uh stay tuned for tiffany over on twitch and we'll see you next time i'm sal i'm tiffany so long everybody