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Alright, let's get on with the show. Weeding down upon the underworld to smash gangland, scum, a friend of the unfortunate, enemy of criminal. In mysterious, all powerful characters, a problem to the police, but a crusade of a law. Oh, hello again and welcome to another episode of Off the Rack, I'm Sal.
And I'm Tiffany. This is a comic show where we take books in the past week, recap, review them, let you know we thought about it. And then if your recommendation is supposed to come out this week, we think it should pick up. I just got a notification on my phone that this show went live.
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Ethan would be the human torch and Ben, of course, would be Mr. Fantastic. Did you just make that up? I deliberately chose the opposite of what I thought everyone would be somebody in the chat.
Did say that I would be the thing. It's clobber and son. She'd be miss thing or she thing. Yeah.
In any case, no, I think I think the bends align, although I really do like. Let's just be honest. No, Ben is the human torch. Yeah.
Well, I was going to say Ethan is the Reed Richards. Ben is the invisible. Yeah. And you would like to split up the other two.
Right, exactly. Yeah, I would take Benjamin Daeigram. Right. But all I know is Ethan's Mr.
Fantastic. Yeah. And as if he had something else out, I think very much as if we would totally go for that costume redesign with the four cut out. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, the blue window. Absolutely. All about that.
I think Ben would want to be it's more like, you know, it's like what I want to be what I actually am. Ben's like, I want to be Johnny Storm. What I actually end up being is Sue Storm. Hey.
Hey. Hey. And by the way, Sue's a high praise. Dude.
Not only does she have a major mini series written by Mark Way that I'm sure everyone's reading. No, Ben would be really dangerous with that. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Well, it's actually a high compliment to say the year Sue Stormer Sue Richards because it's like you are overlooked, but also emotionally powerful. Yeah. No, and I don't mean like dangerous like he'd actually like kill us or anything like that. I mean, like Ben really.
Like he's here right now. Right. And we would smell it. Right.
All you'd know is just like, thanks for the patented pinning. Yeah. Yeah. This show has become a morning DJ rock block.
We're just like, Hey, welcome to the 99. Oh, anyway, let's jump in. No, what's that? What were we talking about?
Let's talk about Daredevil because like it's the it's oft overlooked and most folk don't really have it on the radar. Right. And I really dig in. I've seen this cover everywhere.
Really? Because I was it was hard to find a high resolution. Yeah. It's Daredevil.
This was number 11 from Chisidarski and Marco Chacheto or Chacheto. This book is great. I picked it up because Spider-Man's on the cover, but I'm also reading the series. Let's be honest, if you were and you would have been like, okay, Chip, let's see, post like life stories.
Yeah, if you still got jobs. What's going on with Spider-Man in Daredevil? It's funny because whenever is a Darski stick Spider-Man into his Daredevil run, which I think Spider-Man showed up at least two times. Okay.
He always uses that opportunity to be like, everyone else thinks Spider-Man's a chump. Boom. Like here's Spider-Man being the world's greatest superhero or like my favorite superhero. Right.
Well, I don't understand that like concept of him always like people seeing him as a chump like a lot of people. No, because like every event he's a chump, he never does anything interesting or special or like plate his strengths. He's always just like happy to be there, says a few quips, maybe gets a tie-in book, and that's pretty much the role he plays. Unless you're reading Avengers Resek's Men, which it's all that plus his character.
Right. But Daredevil, this is the beginning of a new arc, but it's all steeped in the lore that Zadarski and Chateau have kind of like tossed out there. Which Daredevil's kind of like dialed back. He accidentally killed somebody and so his Catholic guilt is completely destroying him.
He doesn't want to be dared to anymore. He's knocking it off. He's like wearing this kind of like all white suits. And the last issue he bumps into Elektra, Elektra's like knock it off.
You're daredevil. What? Nothing. He's wearing an all white suit.
When will Kant be? I hope soon. Being like, dude. You're warning in on my territory.
No, not just you're holding on your territory. Hey, I like your suit, man. Give up your, you know, your... Yes, you're the devil.
Have you heard the word of costume? Have you heard the word of costume? No, because... not Murdock.
You know, the new moon knight. That'd be neat. That being said, it's just a baller story and it really plays... If you like to The Daredevil's show or if you think you like Daredevil's a character, you're gonna love the series.
Is that a me? No, it's not. It's just a whole one. That's actually a mob one.
Oh. Yeah. Yeah, there's this whole thing with like the mob and yeah, I know. I would call my arc, by the way, be like, you know, The Daredevil and the Pale Moonlight.
Oh. I like that. Yeah, keep going. Anyway, there's this cop who's like, dogging Daredevil and start catching him because he's like, you killed somebody.
I remember that guy. Yeah, well Spider-Man basically bumps into him. Not unlike in Bed in Year One when Gordon was at like, Traps for Batman. This cop is also saying Traps for Daredevil or Spider-Man.
I can't, I'm not sure which one it's with. It's not to happen again, anybody. In any case, he catches, well, he catches the attention of Spider-Man. Spider-Man's like, nice try.
But I'm not an idiot and I know what you're doing. Then he just grabs the cop and he whips it up and he runs away with him. And he basically just reads in the riot act where he's like, you have no idea what it's like out there. Like, you're a cop, you do your job.
I'm a superhero. Daredevil and I are crime fighters. We do our job. He's like, oh, so you're like friggin in charge?
That's your thing? And Spider-Man's like, yeah. What would you like me to do with these Spider-Powers? You know?
Yeah. Like, what would you like Matt to do? I'm not gonna call him Matt, obviously. I'm not gonna ruin his life.
But like, basically, it's just a really cool moment with Spider-Man kind of like dressing this guy down, but also still getting an opportunity to rise up. It's also a story or a subplot where like Wilson Fisk captures the owl who looks like, who looks like the early 2000s interpretation of Logan in the Mongas that they were trying to do. Yeah, I was like, why does he have Wolverine? I was like, that's not Wolverine.
No, it's the owl. That's not Wolverine. Yeah. But basically Fisk tries to like kick the owl out of New York.
The owl's like not having any of it. Right. And yeah. Ooh.
Ooh. And it's pretty fun. It's just like, it's great to see the Fisk still being Fisk despite this kind of like character limbo that he is in as the mayor. Yeah.
But also establishing that like the owl is a force we reckon with and as a mayor player. And so, you know, it's just a cool book about like Matt trying to atone. The feeling of this story is like just is just guilt. You can feel it.
You know. That's like kind of back to, you know, his roots then. Yeah. And I like that.
Is that girl still around from the beginning? Yes. Okay. Yeah, absolutely.
That's great. And like, yeah, and it turns out she's married as a kid and Matt's still chippin' her. So yeah, more guilt. But it's like that kind of guilt where you're like, you know that there's no way he would stop.
You know, it's like, I just feel bad. I'm selfish, but I'm also Catholic. Right. He's selfish, but he's also like, there's something about Matt where she's like, he almost puts himself in the situation to continue to feel safe.
Like any time that he might make headway, it seems like he's like, I'll find another reason to mess up. Like he's sabotaging himself. Yeah, absolutely. Which is pretty much in keeping with this character or at least one version of this character.
Right. But Zadarski, there's no like humor or fun. It's just guilt and being miserable. Okay.
But it's great looking and it's competent. Yeah. So I've got to give it all these marks because it's just good. Okay.
Read it because you'll be like, oh, this is really cool. Like it made me feel things. You know, like I felt that guilt. I know that guilt.
I know that guilt. I know that. Not like I know how to kill somebody, but I certainly know the feeling of doing something you can't take back. Okay.
Yeah. And then being like, but I didn't die. I don't know if I can handle this book. Right.
Yeah. But I didn't die. So now I have to live with it. Yeah, I don't know if I can handle this.
I hear you. So it's Daredevil. Grab it. Okay.
And Spider-Man's in it for like, I think, three pages. But they're pretty stellar. It's not bullshit. Yeah.
Now that's what it is. Like a few pages can speak volumes. Yeah. So.
Yeah. And they do. That's great. Read it.
Check it out. Excellent. Do anyone recommend? Well, what are you reading?
I say we talk about Dr. Strange. I'll just rip the band-aid off. Yeah, why not?
No one loves Dr. Strange. I'm wearing my Dr. Strange shirt today.
I almost wanted to do so just to prove that I do. I love this shirt. I directed this to make it possible for us to have it. Yeah, you love this shirt so much.
There's a Funko pop of you wearing that shirt. I didn't really put two and two together until Sal held it up. And here it is. Yeah.
She's pretty great. It's a custom. But they're Funko. I hate your pops, but I'll still take it.
Yeah. But no, you did make the shirt. Actually, if you go to the T public.com slash comic. I think I was credit for making it because the design is obviously.
It exists. But at the time I couldn't get a hold of this shirt and I wanted it so badly that we threw it up in the store so I could have it. Anyway, I like it so much that someone took it and then added the I have auto to it. Yeah, it's fine.
So they're selling it too. Whatever. This is by Mark Wade with Art by Jesus Sayyis. I know that artist.
Yeah. Yeah. And it's fine. And you know, it's fine.
I don't mind if I know the coloring on it. This story is further proof that Mark Wade wants to do everything and anything with Dr. Strange as he can. Even though this series is ending and he's starting on another series.
Right. We thought it was like he's John. Right. But like this series proven that Mark Wade just wanted to say he did everything.
So he's taking all the boxes. Right. And that's really what this is. And these past two issues 18 and 19 have been these tiny small stories.
Yes. Like these little like. Which you were like, Oh, great. Right.
And I dig the concept of what each time there's a caveat where I'm just like, but this. The last one was really just like we're having fun, whatever. Like it could have been a little tighter. And this one is a complete shift in his character by the end.
Okay. So off there's a mom and her son. They're driving back in New York in Mid-state New York. It's raining.
And like a ghost shows up and causes them to have an accident. Oh, no. And that's like the ghost doesn't on purpose. Like he's a dick.
He died on the road. Yeah. He's not even sure if like it was his fault that he died, whatever, but he died and he's like vengeful about it. So he's like caused a lot of accidents.
Just being a jerk about it. Just being a jerk like ghosts do. Yeah. I guess.
Hey, you know what? I don't put it past them. Wait a little open yourself to a haunting. Damn it.
But then like it's a really bad wreck too. I mean, it is raining. So I'll give it that. And like they had no GPS.
But a car flips over. Strange shows up. He tries to banish the ghost. It doesn't work.
And I'll figure that out in a minute. Cause he realizes that like he checks on the woman and she's like, Okay, and then she's calling for Danny. And then she has her son. You realize he's not alone or she wasn't alone.
He checks in the car. The kids are messed up. Oh, no. Like real messed up.
Um, basically, like something ruptured in his head and like blood is filling between like the cranium in the brain. And like surgery would need to be done. Yes. Right now ASAP.
So strange knowing that he can't get an ambulance here or anything like that, which I was like Why? teleportation? Yeah. He's a flashlight for God's sake.
But like this story by the end I realized why because he wants something very specific to happen in the story. So we're going to ignore anything else that could get away. So like there are elements to the story I really dug like this feeling of helplessness is looking at this kid He's just like I know exactly what's wrong with this kid. I could have done something about it Yeah, I can't do anything about it, but he's like there's no magic spell that will fix this and I'm like okay like at me Right, right.
It's like fine. There's no magic spell that will fix this I mean you again He I think you could get this kid to the hospital in order to have a magic or find a surgeon But I mean fine He's saying that this kid has like mere moments and then he proceeds to go to a demonic dimension where he meets a Chanock okay, I've heard that name. No, you haven't created by Mark way in this it sounds familiar Yeah, yeah, and maybe another incarnation of him as existed or whatever But he's the keeper of like an infernal library It's a library of like spilled and you know books that no one is meant to read But like if you do they're like cursed or whatever so like there's the price today because like mark way to society Like he's going to beat you over the head with the idea that magic has a cost I get it That's been the theme since Aaron took over like he just keep like it just like we have to say it We have to say it well. Yeah, well otherwise like you won't remember it I guess but I'm like I don't know I feel like he should like you know believe that we Recognize what it is what I would just say it.
Um he looks like a son about kind of awesome It's an interesting design again. I wish the color was a little stronger on this Strange is looking for a very specific book now. I thought the book was going to heal the kid right no the plan is He's going to heal his hands right. I heard the solicitation for the other one.
Yeah, yeah Yeah, which I didn't I actually didn't read what the book was about so I'm reading this and I'm like where is this going? Right So strange does he like learn like so here's not a struggle with this This is an interesting concept and I just don't think that this issue earned it right so look here's what happens He takes the spell Shawn looks like oh like you know here's a couple things that can happen It's like the book of even odds or something like that. Okay, we take the book It could totally heal your hands or it could like you know sever your connection to magic or like all the crap It could be cursed. It's worth it.
I was like price. Yeah, like but it's like you know You could lose all your magic and then this world won't like have a source of supreme It's like it would have just called dr. Voodoo again or another who knew another called a doctor who knew when he became So why because dr. Strange no no he was a doc Okay, um anyway, um so like he goes back he reads the spell and I'm like this is a bit of time Yeah, unless there's no time that passes in the dimension for Chinook well Then he could have taken the kid there and like put him in stasis.
Oh, yeah Actually made sense that's like that's like having the preps like some people for surgery and then prop kid it That's like having your girlfriend's dying father and the ability to both make and cure lizard men and not just jabbing him with it Yeah, making him into a lizard man So he doesn't die he heals from his wounds and then just Having a time machine and saying 15 minutes out of the end. Yeah, right? I'm gonna call Marty. So he goes back.
He reads the spell his hands seem to unmake themselves and they remake themselves But they're healed but they're healed and he's fine so he starts the surgery using the avocomado So I use the next rainbow blah blah he's just like all he has to not be disturbed So we're gonna disturb him right you're on the last issue when the exact same thing happens Yes, that's what happens the ghost shows back up and he's just like oh clearly he's like angry about whatever blah blah blah Like he tells the woman to take the avocomado and like point it at him and make him feel like all the agony and stuff that she feels It's like a pen stare, okay, so he uses it and the guy's like oh, I'm sorry And he like poofs away and strange fixes the kid cool It's like oh and they go after the hospital. It's like oh, oh, wait, so like was the cost the potential to lose something? What is the cost of something that's going to happen later on because we'd clearly want to set up something for this new series Coming up where it's gonna be like oh, he'll be doing not long and like wemo no He won't it's like like back to status quo right and like here's the thing I get the idea of like the Story potential of giving strange back his hands. It's just like man You like he was humbled by the fact that he couldn't but you know perform surgeries anymore.
What will happen now? That's cool, right? But this issue didn't feel like the issue where it should have happened like I feel like that's something that we could have been working on This entire time. Yeah, that's been the bill the bill.
Why is it now? They justify like why wasn't it set up like earlier like damn it only had my hands right or something like every instance He needed his hands and he couldn't use them so I had to completely more clever Yeah, I just feel like again. This is an interesting concept I just don't think we executed it in the strongest way possible And I think interesting stories could come out of this because at the end of the day They will probably re break his hands anyway sure so it's fine And I don't mind that status quo shift. I just prefer it when it's earned Absolutely, and that's really my biggest beef about this So I don't necessarily say I recommend it unless you're looking to pick up the next series because if you are that you're definitely Going to wonder where this all started from here.
It would be here It would be issue 19 again Just kind of a standalone issue in what's been going on the next issue promises that connet returns over the alien event Oh, yeah, so she hates it. I'm wondering if he's not gonna just wrap that up Probably so kind of returns and then goes away right because you know you make clear get away So maybe Connell be the nuclear she is magic right Anyway, that's that's it cool. Yeah, nice. All right.
Well, we do super Alex Sanchez hey guys big fans in 2015. Well, thank you very much for being here. Yeah, keep up the great work Good great job anyway. Thank you very much Alex.
Thanks for you. I love this and thank you for the kindness Mr. Supertastic just checking the tangents on Facebook And I saw that you also do quick reviews on different which was surprising plus yeah I do a little like blurb reviews on the book age on different books on different books Yeah, we're like not gonna do or that I like probably won't talk about on the show right right or like you know Sometimes like we read a lot or so definitely have the chance to read a lot more and then it's like we're watching the time Take down exactly I'm like I don't know okay, but yeah No, I'm like I'm taking like older shows that are either like dead or not like being viewed or just like old and I'm throwing I'm on the Facebook page So if you want to watch them Facebook comm slash comic-pop official or just stick the description if you forget because there's a million Links down there, but thanks for the plug man Adam grows did you read when police you too? I loved it.
I'm glad you liked it. I hated the first issue So I'll probably not be reading any more of the series to many series anyway, but yeah, I'm out I like when pool a lot. I think the unbelievable when pool was an amazing series, but I Don't know which one was it was the one by Hastings, but it's great. Okay, this ain't for me price 8040 speaking a concert Tifte did you hear about?
Sorry, I just scrolled it the Conan and moon night crossover I didn't I'm a little worried to about their like just Conan because I grew up Angela and Angela showed up everywhere And then everyone was like cool. Thanks. Yeah, but they also didn't do anything with her like she just went up but like not being interesting or Right and Conan I think is interesting, but I'm afraid they're going to be showing him to me People are gonna be like okay enough with the Conan I get there already like that so many times a Conan can like you know Run into some of the what's going on. It's like I understand that like I but I'm digging a lot of the Conan books that are coming out I just want them to kind of slow their role on this.
Yeah, you know treat it responsibly. I agree It's a good and responsibly z-burn so Superman is gonna be revealing a secret identity soon That's a big solicitation that came out from men's book. Do you think that it's become a total hack would you be picking up a Superman giant? Superman giant at comic shops.
I don't know what that means, but no Is there a giant size coming out if there is I'm not getting it But yeah, that's I don't understand but you know throw it in the chat now I'll try to recover it as far as the secret anything now that isn't a hack It's just he's doing that thing where it's like you're not suited to do this like yeah I appreciate that like you you made your bones worked really hard your role is great stuff And you're like you're you're a titan in the industry and you probably really wanted to have like a steady movie job doing like you know Script-octoring and maybe like doing your own scripts for Marvel and stuff like that and they kick you out you mad about that So nobody other side maybe you want to get over to the one other side get all that yeah But like you know you made your bones right in stores like Sam twitch and the new Avengers Which is made up of like sweet level characters like just because you can write Superman doesn't mean like maybe you should and you know I figured it out. Okay, superman. It's Walmart's DC giant comic magazines. Ah So like number 15 is only are exclusive to Walmart.
Oh cool. Well, that makes sense because no one would you go to a comic book? So maybe I'm I'm trying to go back and pick up the super and up up and away series which is by Tonking Which is I think is a reprint of the Walmart series in general But I did go to Walmart I grab like a suite of books the first time and I was like this sucks It was just all reprints. Yeah, it was like really hard to dig through and find the real stuff Right, so like I think that experiment was a colossal failure Well, I think it was again their intention was for getting new people right and they didn't do it No, because I think the you seem where they are It's also like the majority of people who are purchasing them were people who were looking for them who would already read some of these stories And so like I think it was just kind of a misstep on a lot of different levels I'm not saying it's all DC because no Walmart didn't do the best job at promoting them or promoting they were yeah No, I got to commend DC actually for trying something yeah And possibly adding in the new store wasn't the best idea because it made it so that people wanted that because you know Current concrete want to know what the new story was about as opposed to if you really wanted new readers Maybe just reprinting some older stories would have been a better call.
Yeah, you can get those stories and get them anywhere else That's true. I don't know but yeah, no, I don't think I don't think that is a hack. It's more like you shouldn't be writing Superman But it's a good indication actually like Superman revealing his identity in like an upcoming Superman story He's a really good indication for readers because it means that they will let Bendis do anything he wants like he can do anything Like there's no one at the editorial level is like we kind of just did that like a few years ago And it was really unsuccessful and like no one really liked it right like there's no version where anyone can like edit him Or tell him like I don't like that idea because clearly like Superman revealing his identity is like a first idea Robles are is like a first idea like these ideas are kind of like just like oh, what do we call this? And then it's like yeah, but like don't just do that then you gotta like cash it out Yeah, right?
Oh, you write it down and then you know you sift through them and maybe like maybe on your 12th idea You have a great one. Yeah with this it's like then all of Venice's first ideas will get not only like agreed with but greenlit And put through so it was funny. This is this unrelated But like they they made Tim Drake wear a brown costume and they changed his codename from red Robin from Robin to red Robin to now It's Drake because like screw secret identities The most where I'm asked but I was like man I guess I was reading this like this like mental and scripting gymnastics that this writer was trying to explain as to like how in the New 52 which is still what this universe is don't let like the rebirth era fool you They were trying to justify and explain like how a lonely place of dying that story that introduces Tim Drake into the Robin Meathos like happened but also didn't happen that way and it made me think like I really feel bad for writers who've waited Their entire lives to write stories about characters that they love in a universe they never asked for yeah You know like all like all these people wanted to do was write about Tim Drake or like all these people wanted to do was write like Guy Gardner and they have this shit to work with and they're like oh so they have to like do all this shit Like the only reason they're doing it is for you and themselves. They're not doing it for like editorial.
They would be they would rather They didn't anyway, I just thought I had reason. Yeah, no cash in the bank says hey Have you ever read any venom by Kate's I was a really skeptical of my local comic shop proactively put absolutely carnage in my pull box Here buy some tie-ins, but I'm enjoying it so much I even went back to the start of his running trades. Yeah Kate's as venom is hailed as one of the best venom runs pretty much all time I like the ideas I was like reticent to the idea of like null and the gods and all that crap because like I don't think that I'm needs or deserves that much backstory or that much depth of like universe world building sure like I Liked it when it was just like it was a mistake like it was a costume It did this and it's mad like I like that and I liked even like the later on stories where they were like let me justify Why he's like not you know sympathizing with the costume? You know like hey listen like it's easy to demonize the X but like let's look at it from their perspective You know it's it was an alien costume was born beyond the stars What's it supposed to feel guilt and jealousy right you know and maybe some of spider-man's guilt imprinted onto it and you know transfer So but I don't know like I I think if it was anyone else it would really suck This thing I didn't ask for is actually well executed just because I don't necessarily want it doesn't mean it's not great And I agree so there you go like I dig it I dig it, but it's like again is not for me But that's because it's alien stuff that's here.
Yeah, so we're no question just out. I'm gonna say hi Have fun at your comic con thank you very much. Hi. What are these days you gonna come out be really fun?
Mr. Roboto says if a person gets doctor strange and cone and together is all your money there's Yeah, I just realized the accent are very weird outside my kiddo and charles. Yeah, the X-men are weird I mean like that's that's kind of implicit like the X-men are supposed to be weird No, I get and I get no profit or percentage for any of the books that I push or that you push no It's true, but yeah, no, I just mean like do you give them all your money because they do that cross-oh. Oh, yeah, right?
Who's the person? Aaron I mean it would have to be Aaron. Yeah, Aaron or Duggan or so I'm gonna want no iron. Oh, yeah, because he's like recently done to like both of them and I like both of them.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no It's true Price 80 40 magic has a cost just like marvel editorial undo one more day Undo doctor's relationship and fix his hands. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, you know you and Clea. No, she doesn't love you She didn't know who you want like that was the thing that they made him do like you mean like yep You didn't need to undo the relation with between Clea and strange there already wasn't one you know Like they had one and it was over and literally could have one more date him by or he could have one more day him by literally combining These two plot like concepts where it's just like you want to save this individual whatever and he makes a deal with the devil Basically to get his hands back. Yes, that's the thing to do.
Yeah, and it's like and it's like what I give up It's like your entire relation with Clea. Yeah, and it's like oh As opposed to him being like a freaking jackass like he always is yeah Like everyone is like in the modern era dr. Strange like has to be like he's a hero and also a dick Yeah, he sacrifices like goodness to be like he always he sells a soul or he betrays his teammates or he went mind When he's clean self. Yeah, but like he didn't make the deal but I'm just saying like I know the deal was for something else But it's like I would have also been happy.
Oh, yeah, not happy with that. Oh, but it would have been It would have been like oh ha ha you're doing one more day. Yeah, right mr. Supertastic.
Oh, yeah Mr. Supertastic strange gets his hands saving Clea or the universe. Exactly. Yeah, you get it I'm gonna put a pin in this for now.
Just jump in another review. Yes, that's what you're here for but you're also here Of course these great things. Let's talk about Batman universe number three, which is one of those Walmart books I wanted to read this I didn't get the chance to I've gotten to read it because there's dinosaurs on the cover There's not so in the book too. That's awesome.
There's even a T-rex there. Yeah, it's by Bendis and Darrington It's so great. It's the best Batman book You get a new dinosaur. Yeah, it's the best Batman book on the stands like you need to be reading this it is the best Batman book Mm-hmm, and that's saying something because like Tomasi is also doing a Batman book Right.
Yeah, but this is the best one and it has everything to do with Nick Darrington drawing it But for some reason Bendis has like reverence for Batman and so Batman isn't a complete idiot asshole nor is he written completely out of character like Batman is on this journey You know obviously the idea of the time the title Batman universe which is like a rehash It's not a rehash It's like a reinterpretation of what the book was before when it was published in more and more comics But like it's Batman going across the universe and every issue he like teams up with another member of the DC universe That's fun And so he's been chasing this like Faber J Egg that was just on by the riddler and it's changed hands and it transported into Hawk world and he gets arrested by the people This is the most like Bendis in dialogue where like this council of Thanogarians are giving Batman a hard time and Batman just kind of like Negotiates his way out of it and then they explain like oh, you're friends Superman never mind. You're good But it's fun because like you know there there's a great moment We're Batman and the Theragarian they need to get to a spot and they're like okay Let's go in the guns like their platform and he's like hey stop. I can't fly Yeah, like but you have wings and he's like it's a cake and they're like that's so stupid well super And as one of those two yeah, but he flies, but the cape that makes him fly We assumed it was for a purpose then they give him Thanogarian flight armor What and so Batman gets to look like a Because it's gotta be because it's fun. How is that possible?
I don't know but it's really fun looking so I don't complain It's just it's the right kind of like silver golden age like silliness but with fun stuff I like but with modern sense. I don't get to keep that he does because he gets transported back to earth Okay, with it on I don't think he gets to wear at the rest of the time and he's wings get broken but like they clip his wings They clip his wings so to speak, but yeah, the story is great. The action is a lot of fun The art is chief among these boys. I didn't expect to see you being a Darrington fan and I do are right issue one got me Yeah, but yeah, so Batman and like how Jordan Green Lantern team up and they have to go to Dinosaur Island nice Which Batman is like yay, and they have this exchange which I think has been memed But I like it despite the fact that it's like silly it is all silly But it's fine where that means is I love dinosaurs.
He says you do because I have a giant dinosaur in my back It and so Batman and how like go to Dinosaur Island and Batman is just like this is so cool Yeah, it's like Batman getting to geek out but without him losing his dignity, right? And so you know like they're fighting the dinosaurs. You know make sure don't hurt the dinosaurs Okay, that's adorable, you know, and so when they run away and they get away goes like magnificent creatures How cool That's like that's like wow, right? Oh, so if it's a happens behind it And so it's like okay fine So anyway, I was on locks the or like accidentally screws up the power of the egg in any case They send them back to the old West where they bump into Joe hex because like Ben is created a like to send a John Hacks Yeah, I'm like some kind of John hex kick.
Yeah, you remember John hex. Yeah, so John hex is now in the book Yeah, which is the most and if you're reading it for fun You don't care, but if you're reading it and you know, it's been this you're like I ran again You get your Jenny hex fix like whatever, but yeah, it's fun. That's great. It's really fun I I really like this book.
It may be a guilty pleasure, but I think I think it's deliberately excellent Like so I think you should read it. That's totally fair. It's just it's just a lovely book Okay, it's got class and that's the thing That's one of the reasons why I'm like Dennis is not a hack no like when he's doing something that either like he cares about either He cares about or the editorial knows he's gonna be good at right that he suited to yeah Like young justice like young justice the first two issues is so I was like this is excellent Yeah, and then I got like two bandits. I'm like I gotta get out here right I just I dropped it like a hot potato so I was like you also are ruining Superman So I'm not gonna like give you the benefit of the doubt Yeah, but this Batman book like and it's really has to everything to do with Darington drawing it and giving you like a Batman That like you want to see but also like that you've never seen yeah, so okay read it.
It's great It's it's literally it's marble team up with Batman I love that like now It's like if I ever get like if ever Disney and Warner Brothers like we'll be allowing these two companies that they don't care I need to think about to cross over with each other again I want Darington to draw that means by Yeah, that'd be amazing. That's what I want so jumping back super-truckers so many Yeah, let's do it Don't take book says Tiffany. I do read Gelsomones run of Rensonia. You gave me sog I just want to recommend something back.
Thank you for helping me get into the comic world Thank you so much. I feel like I have one issue of that one issue in my comics. I'll do it floppy I just I ever forgot about it, but thank you for the reminder I'll go back and check it out. So thank you so much for the for the Recommendation for the re-recommendation.
Yeah, it was like a re or whatever reminder You always can say like it's like a recommendation trade. Oh no exchange Yeah, by the way Do you want to see to be able to back issues of the Wonder Woman coney on crossover by Gelsomone? Let us know in the comments We have we have two versions that we have the trade in the floppies the fake great Morrison just dropped an insane amount into the super Chats, and so I want to say thank you so much, man for that incredibly generous donation I don't even know if you're there anymore because he says I can't stay But I want to let you know that I wouldn't be here today without unwinding on comic-pop at the end of the day Keep doing what you do heart p.s. Superior foes come back soon from how expensive is going I hope that it means that Superior foes will come back.
It is a huge fan following I think no matter what you're gonna get like a Superior foes Resurgence like you're probably gonna get like either a one-shot or a like backdoor Superior foes story where they take the front stage in the amazing spider-man series Yeah, no matter what spear foes will be back I mean like based on the syndicate alone. You're gonna Boom around is a major player beetle is now folded into the main cast Right, it's only a matter of time for silver man's head starts making appearance shockers gonna show up. You know it's gonna happen But thank you so much. Thank you.
That's the same is so generous. We really really appreciate it And you know thank you so much for watching and for being for being a suffer so long Intuist Cavalier says glad glad to glad to be here. There's a really good glad to hear There's a really good Batman book out there. I'll check it out now.
Yeah, read it read it from issue one. It's like three issues But yeah, and the tech is pretty good. It's super testing now. I know why it's Batman universe It's basically Batman team up with everyone.
I'm glad to meet a bats that knows how to work with people The other thing is that Batman is like a colleague he treats his colleagues like with respect yeah and camaraderie You know like what was it how makes a comment wise with Batman where he's like, you know Have you seen like they talk about I never been to each other's house. Yeah, I mean your Palatius state. Yeah He's like that's what we don't go to your house. It's a bit my house, but oh one of them It was actually in the previous issue with Renaro where he's like you see Clark lately.
It's like I saw him like yesterday He's okay, so he's please just avoiding me Like I really like that. It was a real real moment. It's cute We'd be and geeky says can Sony cross-vitamin over with Warner Brothers would you watch? Yeah, I'd watch that can they I won't be watching anything Sony spider-man related it for a long time, but I would watch if they did that sometimes own spider-man like Sony owns the movie Rights the spider-man so if Sony were to like work and that's why I was like, hey You know what actually make me watch a spider-man movie by Sony right now if they were like, okay, look Look at what Caspsman's in a doffrio the kingpin make that the movie That's how you could get me because really like while Marvel produce I think they can't they can't they can't because King Pin is owned by both companies right, but I'm wondering if there was a close in the contract when they end it You know sometimes when like well, there's a clause in the contract with Netflix where Disney can't do anything with those characters Disney can't use Those characters, okay, but Sony could and since it's Marvel TV Marv cinematic universe Yeah, now of course if they did it right if Sony smart and they actually and Disney is continues to be stupid and doesn't solve this problem With money like they can what's the point of being a mega an evil mega conglomerate?
If you're not gonna solve these problems money But in any case if Disney continues to play stupid and Sony continues to like be this way Yeah, quick kingpin in your movie and and be smart and play it like us like a kind of like narrow like Craven's last time Kind of story don't do craven's last time because I think I like the look on Craven I do better but like a craven's last time story It's like it would make sense as to why the Avengers are like happy wouldn't be in it We're focusing on this one story that takes two hours to tell. Yeah, but yeah, yeah The knock your kingpin do it anyone please, but yeah, and Mr Supertastic was one on is still in full effect on GBU violator name is so brutal that every time I hear it feels like a punch in the guts I know violator what's supposed to feel bad by the way down already good. I know GBU we put the last word It's like the far from home of our endgame spawn coverage and a big old back is on spawn and we a little bit of GBU on Spawn spin also It was not allowed to get away from it. No, I tried right now.
Yeah, I'd experience the spawn on or phenomena I did yeah, so what do you got? What do you recommend? I'm gonna talk about Gotham City monsters I saw this cover I was like not only will say read this but like are they is Gotham City like We've monsters to marvel. They're in their in monster town.
Are they Gotham? Yeah, it's a part of Gotham. What? Okay, let's be honest everybody I've not been keeping up with a lot of the goings-on in Gotham But this book does a decent job trying to catch me out that like Leviathan happened and shade was like dissolved and so frank It's not a free agent okay to monster town which I'm guessing something to do with a monster man or whatever's going on with Bane because Bane right now is taking over Gotham proper so Gotham proper is got its own thing We're like you know we're not hanging out there.
We're slummin it in monster town It's where a lot of like monstrous looking individuals dwell right monsters dwell if you can't use because I think that's Marvel Yeah, anyway, this is literally like the the book is let's get the band together. Okay, not back together Together together turn by Steve Orlando. Okay, I think it's about this book before we dive into this is It seemed a little all over the place. Mmm.
It's just it's a little off It doesn't mean I'm not gonna finish up because I believe it's just a mini I think there's like four issues six issues It's six issues mini says it ran like cover. Mmm. I don't know how I got four out of that But we're getting our team up of I vampire Is in there he even says these I vampire Frankenstein killer crock and lady clay face or lady clay. Yeah, okay, I went orca.
Oh, no. Oh, no, okay She's there to sure guys like off that's cool. I guess the idea is that like they're all gonna have a clandestine meeting at one point It does not happen in this book, which is what really kind of through me Okay, so it's like we kind of get a feel for each of these characters are I've been parced in with some vampires who like have this weird Like blood in them like it's like almost like an extraterrestrial style blood So he bites them it doesn't hurt them and hurts him a little bit and they're like aha He's like what the hell right what's going on here cool? Kill crock has just been discharged from the suicide squad that actually happens apparently suicide squad issue 50 by the way Thank you editors notes.
Yeah, it wasn't like you know whatever it's just like he wasn't like go check it out here It was like he was discharged in this issue. That's so helpful like frickin. Yes. Yeah, so he's staying out like kind of a God like a flop house kind of like situation where like he's going for a job interview and stuff like that Or like whatever he's gonna be doing.
Yeah, and the guy who runs the place there like to take it to the opera Oh, I was like you wanna go? Come on, man. Okay, he's like no I don't wanna go to the opera. Yeah, so orca has been dealing with like pirates and other random folk and she's like she's trying to I guess like find a place where her nephew can be proud of her.
Okay, like or like not afraid of her You know what I mean? Like she's trying to find her humanity in a way. Okay, um Lady clay face. I think that's her name.
Yeah, you sort for go lady clay. It's not Lee clay face. I want to call her That's so badly lady clay um, you know was part of Cobra, but now that's gone as well So now she's just trying to find her way She's you know how clay face did that thing where he sent it like get a bunch of themself She is like going on to where they're experiencing everything that she's trying to figure out who she is Without a like leadership. She doesn't know what to do or who she again who she is right right Frank design is filling his days with like fighting evil Evil because like shade is now gone.
He's just like well There's on the list it's like this minotaur guy. It's actually a dude who's like infected with this like thing He just matches him the guys really not the purpose But we see that like Frank design's blood doesn't like recoils from him at one point Mm-hmm in like almost a venom looking thing. He's like cool. That's not a good sign.
Yeah, no something's wrong here And then like outside we see a mandrel is there mm-hmm. Okay mandrel right but all of it culminates at the megas theater, which is where the opera is going down and Basically he figures out that like these mandrels and apes and other such things are like trying to bring back like a leader or like bring a leader fourth essentially and Frank design figures out. It's melmoth. Okay.
No, you know who this is or you might you blocked out who this Yeah, um, but this was all gonna go down to this theater I like vampire shows up because he's like, you know Oh, you and I are the same person because these vampires I thought clearly had like this crazy blood in them I think I said to do with this blah blah blah blah He's like I fit them and so like it didn't work out and like Frank It's like just cuts him in two and he's just like you're you have his blood in you now, right? That's bad. Let me get everywhere. Yeah, you know, you're infected like I've ever like this is gonna stop me, you know, right?
Just like yeah, but whatever um meanwhile like orca killer crock and lady clay all have things that are meaning to them They're right part of lady clay is at the theater Killer crock's like friend. Yeah, who often tickets is at the theater orca's nephew is at the theater Oh, no, and like the mandrels use like magic to like basically kill everybody thus allowing melmoth to come through Who's going to be like he's like let's rescue the multiverse now? Melmoth is a grant Morrison creation. Okay, who was like the ruler of earth from one billion?
Yeah, in the future one million. Okay, and he's been a bunch of different things but he's back right So that's what we're gonna be dealing with. I mean, overall. Do I care about melmoth not particularly?
Do I enjoy the like the dive into like the monstrous side of the DC universe? Yeah, I do Especially knowing it's a mini and that like they're not gonna be like struggling to find things for them to do later on The I you know, I have a magical stuff in the DC universe, but I haven't really delved into the monster side of it Yeah, so I'm interested in checking it out again. It's only six issues and you know, it'll certainly be tied into a couple of things But I'm in I wish the patient was a little better. Um and again, it was just it was just weird.
It was like I'll clear they were getting Together. Oh, okay. Yeah, so it could just be like you're feeling out So, you know Amazing spider-man from Nick Spencer and Kev I think no, it's a Francisco mania mania Over there. Yeah, right?
It's good. I like the cover of this because it's almost like saying to Larson like this is what you're supposed to look like. Yeah, that's what you meant to be doing It is true. It's ridiculous the leg is too long, but in any case Spencer remembers that spider-man's dating Mary Jane again, and so they are and Basically spider-man Okay, so Mary Jane is like I need to go take a job in LA She was given a new opportunity to be like an actor again Oh, and we're doing the spritancy story again where she like goes to LA, but this time she's not going mad She's like basically she's like the script is too good.
I can't like but we're still seeing each other and it's my friends Like you need to go. Oh, you gotta go. I'll still be here. We'll face time that exists now Yeah, you know, and she's like okay, so she goes and she's like and he's like it's different.
This is different now I'm gonna take you to the airport. I'm gonna see you off Then he goes to Aunt May to help her like paint Oh, no, and he's like he goes on and on about like why can't I make it work blah blah blah and it means like you know what you need to do No, but like well, she doesn't say she's like you know what you need to do you know how to make it different and he's like okay So then Teresa Parker is like sister I guess or whatever the Mark way creation that Zadarski put into the book and said Yeah, no, she really is a sister. She shows up and she's like I need you to go on a mission with me to save a dude I probably banged and he's like I can't I have to take Mary Jane Mary Jane to the airport and she's like I don't give a shit You have to go and he's like yep No, so he goes and he saves the day the guy dies chameleons involved and he's late But don't worry because Carly Cooper helps Mary Jane with everything packing up waiting for Peter driving to the airport seeing her off Right, so spider-man stops aim and loses out on saying goodbye to Mary Jane He then FaceTime's with her when she arrives and she's like I'm dating you. This is part of the deal Oh Like I knew you weren't gonna make it and he's like I really thought I was gonna like fix it that I was gonna make things different Right I intend every intention of making it different and then he hangs up with her And he's like that's why I bought her this engagement ring And you're like wait what?
So that happened so Peter has an engagement ring for Mary Jane just sit Never gonna get together to her. We're gonna draw this out He's gonna have this because and like as if to as if to like really hammer home This is never gonna work the next book is a tie-in for absolute carnage. Well, she's away right? She's away so she's like it was me like so I know we just dropped his mom But like never mind that absolute carnage like we could literally pay off this thing in three years but Yeah, so one more day.
What Spencer health recommendation got rid of my fisto and they has cancer Like what if she dies does that doesn't does that undo the deal? What if maybe I'm getting cancer because it's like this is not charging more things So setting that's what I hope it's that now way it's like oh no, but the fisto makes deals with Strange. Yeah. Yeah, but I love that idea that like now that the fisto is in charge Yeah, deals are getting unmade or maybe like that wouldn't have happened but blazes in charge He's like hey my help heat why not here you go Cancer part either way I'm cool with them killing at me if they do but in any case I go it's okay.
Go to fall out you told every story you ever tell what I Can make weak cakes there for yeah, exactly for all the for all the Vikings and Norse characters in any case They would love it and you know it. I agree I don't think like all people are like is this the undoing of one more day? They can do this forever. They really can't this could be no idea or it could pay off instantaneously Who knows if it is that's what it's dangerous.
Yeah, if it's like if they wait a little bit Then it might actually stick if they do it too quickly then it's like they're gonna They're gonna undo the undo it will not stick they will not get married That being said they will draw out the will he ask her to marry him. Mm-hmm Then then he will propose that book will sell double orders There'll be a gazillion bearing covers and it'll go up to like $45 an issue until like two weeks later When I'll drop down like $10 an issue then they'll draw out the engagement for like a year or two And then they won't get married anyway Yeah, that's how it works and why do I know that because the marriage was a decision made by editorial when it happened in 87 cemented by consistent writing and continuity but Apparently the bullpen all hated it and they all wanted it to not happen Yeah, and they've wanted it to not happen despite growing fan interest and fan support for the marriage One guy might not want this one more day thing to happen, but that's not enough It would have to be from the top down right every spider-man writer and every spider-man editor and the editor in chief and the president to all be okay With it. Yeah, and they're not well Hey, here's the thing Maybe though if the Disney thing doesn't they can't fix it. Maybe they will on do it because they'd be like screw you Yeah, so it's married now, right?
Yeah, I don't know not spider-man not say that for sure right I don't know but in any case check it out. It's a funny shit It's really well written and you know and the next one's Italian which you're gonna skip because you don't buy tie-ins because you know Good for you Jumping into the super chance really quick. Jack O'Connell says I wasn't able to see any of these live all summer because of a Different time zone love the channel. Thanks Jack.
Yeah, and sorry about the time zone, but I'm glad you're back Yeah, welcome to the to the fall Alex Sanchez Tiffany, how do you always predict the next big thing? I would have thought Donny Kate's would be the biggest writer at Marvel No, I don't predict anything it's just weird coincidence. It is but you're well you have an eye for talent Jack O'Connell says I really like the Spencer's keeping Teresa around just personal opinion I don't like Teresa because she doesn't really bring anything new to the table, but Whatever, you know Mary Jane has an entire extended family that we've only seen one character from in 20 years Yeah, so you know there's a lot of characters that they could use or not use mr. Supertastic says King Thor had a really solid fight Yes, tell us more about it.
Okay, so I got read King Thor this week It's the reunion of Jason Aaron and Assad Rivec to conclude the Thor future story. Hey, and I think Aaron's run on Thor Right? Yeah, but you know really focusing heavily on this part. Yeah very least um so have I been reading Aaron's Thor Not really have I read most of the future King stuff.
Yeah. Yeah for no reason that was the thing I was like, yes, this is cool. I bet I would really like Aaron's Thor no doubt about it. I read some of it Yeah, it's pretty cool stuff and whatever.
I enjoy it. I absolutely enjoy it when they had a dumb window. Yes freaking awesome Um, but yeah, this book is like a continuation of the last time we checked in with King Thor where it's like it's just not good No, it's like, you know, like they somehow like reignited Midgard with like the rest of the universe is crumbling and Loki has gotten a bit of You know like a symbiote like, you know, the like no God of the symbiote's kind of thing. I have to find exactly what it was there was so much There's so many words in this book.
No, um, there's a lot of like Aaron just feeling him is Thor stuff while looking at this Take a look at some of this art though because this is Riebic, which should be great Yes, only great some of the time so I went back and I looked at his work on Secret Wars And I was like who's the colors for that same guy's this? Oh, what I realized though is that occasionally they add like inking to the work Yes, no, Riebic does not you don't you don't ink rivets where it's working hands pencils really really weird you have pages like this Yeah, come to that um Where it's like I don't don't understand these choices. Mm-hmm. I like straight up don't like some of this stuff is gorgeous Right, it's just absolutely stunning and then some of it is just stiff and like this is great I really like this page.
I think this looks fantastic, right? This is awesome. Then we get to the destruction of the city and it's like why? Like it's just so flat.
Yeah, that is flat and I think it's because we're lacking ribbicks or not Yeah, we're lacking ribbicks pencil shading like you can see some it down in the corner with the rocks down there But you don't see it anywhere else and it's left to the colorist to do it. Yeah, the colorist is pretty good I've seen him like going through secret wars like some of his really great stuff. It's not so great But I was just like I was a little shocked at times where I like not how much I didn't enjoy the art in this book I was really excited. Yeah, I was very excited to be like, huh here we go.
It's time So the book starts out with Thor's granddaughters. They got the Nipitancy city where the gods would be and they're looking for some information that we're looking for a little bit of help so to speak and They come across a librarian or where they assume as a librarian It's one of the gods and it's just like I never went on the god of at this point like it's been too long and He's basically like it's all screwed up. It's all over. It's fine.
Like it's we're done. We're done Because you know, oh, he's in Shadrach. Oh, what other name? Shadrach.
Yeah Oh my god, a Shadrach from Thor versus Thanos. Yeah, I Gotta go for sure. Yeah, I got to go for sure. Yeah, how like Loki is now also a part of the butcher Right because that's what he like Like he got me is the worm and then he like yeah, he ate his way out of it Yeah, and so like now he has that power and like he plans on killing the universe and Thor.
Okay, so Some of those guys like it's all over and then like they get attacked by Basically Loki's birds is Raven's yes, and meanwhile Loki finds Thor and there's a badass fight like straight up badass fight Yeah between the two of them where you know Thor like realizes he's like I always gave hope or like that like one day Loki would you know come around but Loki's always wanted me to die Yes, we were children He's wanted me to die. Yeah, and like now I'm realizing that like I he has to die right like damn it. Yeah, like that sucks Because I do love him. Yeah, yeah, he never gave up hope and now he has like he's just like it is the end.
Yeah, right? Loki mentions that like where Thor put him that he put him in like a muscle-heim fire hit with like fire vipers and like Loki ate his way through them. Okay, and it burned his insides and all those like crazy crap It's really like very myth about you know And there's like this really like great feeling of like ancient like lore attached to like the way these two gods speak to one another And it's cool. I really dig it.
Yeah At one point Thor takes into a plant where he knows there isn't a life left because it's like that way it doesn't matter But he knows the planets also dying so like Thor takes his hand and throws it out into the stars Goes through star comes back super heated right and he's just like oh you think fire will kill me You think fire is gonna do it and he's just like no But I think this will he hits the planet with it turn it into like napalm That's like like hurting him quite a bit. Yeah That doesn't end up really mattering because Loki ends up like basically like taking his hand Which is like it's like a like a carnage acts or whatever No, they call it something specific if you should have written some of this stuff down But she didn't said she just read the book and I was like that was cool. I'll remember no no she won't no she will not the Shadrach mentions it The necro sword. Oh, okay.
He's now he's now all black the necro sword is gone to him So he's part of the all black okay, that's what's that's what Loki's part of yeah So he's his necro sword which try to think about necro mongers. Yeah, and he stabs Thor through his like soft And his entrails become his extra rails and they're like floating in space and Loki like comes up behind him and he's like he's like he's like he's like gets in his face And he's like you want to dad died right he's like you think he died asleep He's like no he died for me like coming in every night and whispering to him all the horrors that ever like you know Done to the world or is anybody are all the bad horrible deeds I'd ever done He died with like my voice in his ear like crazy and like whatever Yeah, and like Thor's like he loses it and punches them and gets behind him and he uses his own entrails to choke Loki And he's just like dad didn't die that way He died because I put him out of his own misery because he was an old man and he wasn't his own mind And I killed him myself and I said him like on fire on a fire the size of you know It was your time that's amazing. Yeah, and he's like you know mom died He's like she died like knowing you were like the greatest regret of her life Loki Oh, and then he like sends him into a son and I'm like this is bad So awesome just these two bickering god brothers like just like in their final days essentially Yeah, and Thor has a moment or he said but he realizes that at the end of the day He doesn't know if the Sun is enough to kill Loki and it is it and it becomes like all black itself And then like they send he sends Thor to Midgard or he's just like Thor I'm gonna kill you and then I'm gonna kill Midgard I just want you to know that that's how it's gonna go down right and I was like as Loki's like trying to like finish the job He like something has like a sword go through him. Yeah, and there's a voice behind him It's just like basically like what surprise you to like adults or man children basically cool whatever Yeah, and it's gore oh or the god butcher's back, okay We'll see what happens so like the girls themselves are trying to like figure out how to stop this essentially Yeah, they're gifted a book by Shadrach that is like the tale of the god butcher and has to be finished Oh, and so one of them will finish the book itself.
That's cool. I'm like that's neat I like this like this idea of lore and myth. Um, I Recommended because if nothing else for that fight and that exchange between Thor and Loki. It's absolutely incredible.
Yeah, absolutely incredible It was just it was so powerful and like hate-filled right you know what I mean? Yeah, like emotional and just just like yeah venomous. Yeah, which is ironic. Yes Pricey 40 so now stopping right.
I'm sorry man. I mean I hope I'm not I always want to be right I don't want to be right like I want to be wrong. I was gonna be right when I said Jam called X says one more day must be a big factor in Peter and Mary Jane remarry They face down the fissel but reject undoing the deal as it would be catastrophic Showing the maturity of a wiser Peter and Mary Jane having a new beginning. Yeah, you love him responsibility.
That'd be nice Wouldn't it I agree with you man. The fish Make a deal with them to restore their marriage for him helping to to pose. Yeah, right. Yeah, that'd be fine And zebra says DC Giants are getting a new number one.
Sorry for the confusion. Yeah And Kevin vu says what upsets me is that these characters change completely because of it They don't want to marry they don't want Mary Jane and Peter because MJ isn't woke enough. I doubt it But yeah, no, sorry powers of X number whatever For this is for power since we had two house last week. So this is for yeah, and second-class issue of house next week Yeah, I was before let's do it.
It's uh, you know Tickman, it's RB Silva. It's gorgeous. Yep goes that saying. Yeah, I think I like a Little more I think I do too, but you're not supposed to really like see too much of a difference No, the story is more or less that like Chuck and Eric go to sinister and they treat you with him and then like do that whole thing Where it's like let me hide the conversation we had until the right time.
I'm a Trojan or so you yeah What's also like this is powers of acts like the powers of X prior to this was dealing with the apocalypse part of the story I'm filling in what we're missing from house of acts clearly This is feeling in the alright here. We come to the sinister part of it What does sinister have to do with a betrayer? So yeah, we established that sinister of course brain You know, sis blah blah blah he's making all kinds of sinister clones of himself. He's a court He has a court of sinister's yes one of them the leader of said court doesn't have a cape He sees my game is cape he wants a cape new sister shows up to pose as him has a cape Well, it's the sinister that shows up as the sinister who has the mutant gene yes the one that he didn't agree with the one that like this Leader sinister was like no, I like theorized using the mutant gene and it was a mistake right it was a horrible idea And then that new sinister is like whoa well.
Let's do this. So the whole point is we're establishing Sinister like the sister we know I think we know yeah, and his ridiculous I love sinister's look it's ridiculous It looks like a bird trying to make themselves bigger to like keep a predator at bay and or attract a mate That's probably Hickman's interpretation of said character that being said we're basically establishing sinister being like funny and ridiculous Yeah, because we want to set up the red diamond which is this like it's like a network of sinister facts and Backwards dealings and lies well. It says at the bottom of the pages lies. Yeah in the code right in the codes of the bottom It says lies but yeah So we're setting up this like whole idea of there being these like secrets that are being revealed from sinister And then we're gonna like set up basically that they're all bullshit.
I guess yeah How many are there? I must go back and share six but it's the next page after that. Yeah, oh no There's ten yeah like timelines. Yeah, you mean there's x there's x there's x secrets.
Yeah, yeah so maybe this one from each Timeline oh that could be it's funny because like there's a lot of there's a lot of like secrets that people speculating on and then of course We find their lies or at least when you when you start to believe that they are lies you're like why am I spending so much time? I think that's how I started too and it's like well who's saying their lies though like that's the question like you know Who is like if a liar calls a liar a liar? What does that mean right? They also set up the whole like uh like one of the lies Implies there's like this like orgy relationship between like Emma jean Scott and Logan I did I miss that and that's like what the team is for the upcoming X-men book right?
What's going on here? Yeah, but anyway if you want to spend a bunch of time like mulling over it You can probably like pick through what everyone's being referred to as in this Instagram book and they're all like different time I think they're all different timelines too because like they talk about different errors of X men yeah But yeah, so then we get to Was it cipher is given his job to chat with crocoa and basically like interpret what crocoa saying? Charles like one really important panel here though. Yeah, it's this one.
This one. Yep Which I guess is like yeah I thought it was important because it was like it's because of the bubbles well No, I was gonna say because cipher you can see him like he's like touching and communicating with it. Yeah Yeah, yeah was like how does that work right well that it cipher is has the ability to like But it's like also that like technology. Yeah, you know like tech plays a huge role in this I mean I guess they're literally just showing us him communicating with it And I'm wondering if like that this communication or like whatever that they set up doesn't inevitably lead to that oh Yeah, that crazy yeah the face links.
Yeah Anyway, I was Because like technology plays it a big we have this nature and also this like like nature by in terms of like it being But like versus like the robot the AI. Yeah future. Oh, I know yeah, no either way they're dealing with yeah, you know technology And of course like if you were if you know your X men As guardian wars episode back issues, you know that cipher is not only friends with but now is like merged with warlock is a Technology being that's actually the arm is like his coloration. So it's yeah, so like cipher is part technology Right, so it's almost like he's like communicating and we're infecting.
Yeah, it could be because like you notice that like in the In the past powers books like when like the baby gets baptized and like they give you like half the technology gets the arm Yeah, it's yeah, but I wanted to you know, I was like that's interesting. They showed us that very specific absolutely and then it's very deliberate But anyway cipher is like I'll take me a few months to a year and such like goodbye Oh, they also refer there okay, so we look at like apocalypse Yeah, and the first horseman in one of the secrets was like that apocalypse had many Horseman, but if his original horseman ever came back you would give up the Bail and everyone we also we saw these horsemen in one of the other books we did a panel Well also these horsemen from the back all look like established Marvel characters Like for me it looks like Scarlet Witch Nova, Lelandra and like you know someone else it could be anyone it could be Destiny it could be like you know, whatever his name is the wizard maybe it's just pop up as a type. Yeah Very much so we know he does so yes, I forget that backstory Yeah, we go to the far future where the phalanx comes for whatever is left is left on earth I don't know where we are I think it's because the nibrod thing is there Oh, yeah, and like this is the future where they have the human captives So like not cap this is who yeah, yeah for them, but yeah the idea being that like Only robots can go and be part of the collective but like they have like some work around it They're gonna know they're they've got a like a like a Trojan horse or whatever they're gonna infect the phalanx with trying like Skip it and get into the afterlife or the collective. Yeah anyway anyway, so we'll see if that works and then like the book ends Yeah, so it's like what?
But yeah, I mean like Like kind of filling the gaps but all like the the future stuff is the stuff that I think is the most puzzling to me because I'm like how Like what future is this of yeah, which timeline is the future? I think many people are asking these types of questions like where is this time into why should I care about this? I get the apocalypse stuff. Yeah, well, that's you know and the cipher stuff like all the contemporary stuff is like Oh, yeah, I get it right even the fuck that was in the future It made sense because that was the like that was more like for that time and she came back with this knowledge the sinister stuff Obviously, we're setting up not obviously we're possibly setting up the pot people.