Empathy Is Rare? with Marcos Descalzi and Cate Carrejo, We Believe in Deep Canvassing

from War is Stupid: An Anti-War Podcast About War · host Orli Matlow

Orli Matlow sits down with Marcos Descalzi and Cate Carrejo, the Founder and Communications Director of We Believe In Deep Canvassing, to learn all about the organizing tool that uses empathy to confront bias. Marcos and Cate give a master class on how to have actually productive conversations about politics, with sidebars that range from Moral Foundations Theory to Amy Adams’s filmography. They also teach Orli about life outside of New York City, and about finding hope in the recent Minnesota general strike and the Girl Scouts. Theme music by This Revolution Production Collective. Follow We Believe In Deep Canvassing: Website Instagram TikTok Bluesky Facebook LinkedIn Follow Orli: Website Instagram TikTok

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