Encountering You - Permission to Play

Ashley is back and this time we're talking about play, spontaneity, and joy through the HOCI lens of moderation. I grew up not knowing how to play. She grew up playing naturally but maybe using it for regulation. In this honest, funny, and personal conversation, we talk about what we've each had to learn from the other, why play and joy are core to healthy functioning, and what it looks like to find the middle, especially if you tend to live at one end of the spectrum.   What we will talk about: What play actually is and what gets in the way of it for each of us The HOCI moderation lens: too little play and too much unmoderated play both come at a cost What our friendship has taught each of us about joy, spontaneity, and boundaries What we see clinically in clients who have no play and in clients who use play to avoid Honest, unscripted questions we asked each other for the first time, live on the podcast