EPISODE · Oct 21, 2025 · 22 MIN
End of Life Conversations: Using the EOL Deck to Talk About Final Wishes S2EP53
from Thoughtful Planning · host Santiago and Honey Bueno
Episode Summary: In our last episode, we used The Death Deck while everyone was healthy. But what happens when someone is actually facing the end of life? Honey & Santiago introduce The EOL Deck, a tool for families, caregivers, & healthcare providers to explore what truly matters in someone's final chapter. They work through real questions & exchange answers to show how these difficult conversations unfold. Essential Question: If someone you love were facing the end of their life right now, would you know what truly matters to them in their final days? Content Warning: This episode discusses end-of-life topics. Please take care of yourself & listen when you're ready. Disclaimer: This episode is for educational purposes only. We are not doctors or lawyers. Key Takeaways: • The EOL Deck is for when someone is actually facing end of life • 52 cards with casual tone, multiple-choice & open-ended questions • For families, caregivers, & healthcare providers • Preview cards & select questions suited to each patient • Start with cards about life & legacy for those less ready • Conversation starters, NOT legal documents • Created by Lori LoCicero & Lisa Pahl (hospice social worker) • Part of series: Death Deck, EOL Deck, Dementia Deck Episode Highlights: [0:04] Cold open: What happens when death is no longer abstract? [1:16] Essential question [3:16] Meet creators: Lori LoCicero & Lisa Pahl [5:47] First card: Ideal location for final breath [7:55] Santiago: Outside in nature [9:07] Honey: Grandkids playing, life happening [10:20] Third card: What to smell in final days [11:30] Gratitude question - What are you most thankful for? [12:17] Santiago's emotional answer about their life together [15:47] Professional tips: Preview & select cards [19:56] Start conversations early [20:30] Consider recording conversations Action Steps: ✅ Order at thedeathdeck.com ✅ Preview cards before using ✅ Start with life & legacy cards ✅ Make conversations comfortable ✅ Document with notes or recordings ✅ Legally document wishes with advance care directives Resources: • EOL Deck: https://thedeathdeck.com/collections/shop-all-decks • Death Deck Episode: https://youtu.be/m6w0HpWhU_g • Advance directives: https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/financial-legal/free-printable-advance-directives/ Connect: Website: https://www.legacytoolkit.com/podcast Email: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/legacytoolkitwithsantiagoandhoney LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/legacy-toolkit Keywords: EOL Deck, end-of-life conversations, advance directives, hospice care, palliative care, final wishes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Episode Summary: In our last episode, we used The Death Deck while everyone was healthy. But what happens when someone is actually facing the end of life? Honey & Santiago introduce The EOL Deck, a tool for families, caregivers, & healthcare providers to explore what truly matters in someone's final chapter. They work through real questions & exchange answers to show how these difficult conversations unfold. Essential Question: If someone you love were facing the end of their life right now, would you know what truly matters to them in their final days? Content Warning: This episode discusses end-of-life topics. Please take care of yourself & listen when you're ready. Disclaimer: This episode is for educational purposes only. We are not doctors or lawyers. Key Takeaways: • The EOL Deck is for when someone is actually facing end of life • 52 cards with casual tone, multiple-choice & open-ended questions • For families, caregivers, & healthcare providers • Preview cards & select questions suited to each patient • Start with cards about life & legacy for those less ready • Conversation starters, NOT legal documents • Created by Lori LoCicero & Lisa Pahl (hospice social worker) • Part of series: Death Deck, EOL Deck, Dementia Deck Episode Highlights: [0:04] Cold open: What happens when death is no longer abstract? [1:16] Essential question [3:16] Meet creators: Lori LoCicero & Lisa Pahl [5:47] First card: Ideal location for final breath [7:55] Santiago: Outside in nature [9:07] Honey: Grandkids playing, life happening [10:20] Third card: What to smell in final days [11:30] Gratitude question - What are you most thankful for? [12:17] Santiago's emotional answer about their life together [15:47] Professional tips: Preview & select cards [19:56] Start conversations early [20:30] Consider recording conversations Action Steps: ✅ Order at thedeathdeck.com ✅ Preview cards before using ✅ Start with life & legacy cards ✅ Make conversations comfortable ✅ Document with notes or recordings ✅ Legally document wishes with advance care directives Resources: • EOL Deck: https://thedeathdeck.com/collections/shop-all-decks • Death Deck Episode: https://youtu.be/m6w0HpWhU_g • Advance directives: https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/financial-legal/free-printable-advance-directives/ Connect: Website: https://www.legacytoolkit.com/podcast Email: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/legacytoolkitwithsantiagoandhoney LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/legacy-toolkit Keywords: EOL Deck, end-of-life conversations, advance directives, hospice care, palliative care, final wishes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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