Skip to content
Ente: Private by Design episode artwork

Sep 29, 2025 1 hr 2 min

Ente: Private by Design

from Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons Podcast

It's rare these days to find a well-designed and useful application that was made to be private from the get-go. Too many apps today view your personal data as a cash cow to be mercilessly milked, claiming to value your privacy when they really value the extra revenue they can make off of your private data. When I find useful apps that are private by design, especially ones that can replace more popular apps that harvest our data, I like to call attention to them: in this case, Ente Photos. Today I'll ask the founder and CEO why privacy is important to him and how it influenced his design approach. Interview Notes Ente Photo: https://ente.io/ Ente Auth: https://ente.io/auth/ Ente’s Machine Learning: https://ente.io/ml/ Ken Thompon’s lecture on trust: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/358198.358210 Further Info My book: https://fdsd.me/book My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter Support the mission: https://fdsd.me/support Give the gift of privacy and security: https://fdsd.me/coupons Get your Firewalls Don’t Stop Dragons Merch! https://fdsd.me/merch Table of Contents 0:00:00: Intro 0:04:08: interview terminology 0:06:44: Why did you start Ente and why do you care about privacy? 0:15:23: Why should we trust Ente with our private data? 0:20:14: What private information does Ente collect? 0:25:12: How hard is it for 3rd party apps to integrate with the OS? 0:29:39: Is Ente more private than Apple Photos with ADP enabled? 0:31:40: How hard is it to migrate from Google or Apple Photos to Ente? 0:34:30: Is facial recognition metadata in a standard, portable format? 0:35:51: How hard is it to export photos from Ente? 0:37:57: Does Ente Auth allow for easy export and backup? 0:39:28: How do you backup your Ente photos? 0:41:12: How much of Ente's AI photo processing is purely on-device? 0:45:51: How do you vet third party software libraries for privacy? 0:49:07: What data could Ente give, if required, to law enforcement? 0:52:43: How can we pass on our legacy of memories to our kids? 0:54:55: What's next for Ente? 0:59:43: Interview wrap-up 1:00:56: Patron podcast preview 1:01:36: Looking ahead

Episode details come from the podcast's RSS feed.

Embed this episode

Ready to play

Ente: Private by Design

0:00 1:02:51

Chapters

  1. 0:00 Intro
  2. 4:08 interview terminology
  3. 6:44 Why did you start Ente and why do you care about privacy?
  4. 15:23 Why should we trust Ente with our private data?
  5. 20:14 What private information does Ente collect?
  6. 25:12 How hard is it for 3rd party apps to integrate with the OS?
  7. 29:39 Is Ente more private than Apple Photos with ADP enabled?
  8. 31:40 How hard is it to migrate from Google or Apple Photos to Ente?
  9. 34:30 Is facial recognition metadata in a standard, portable format?
  10. 35:51 How hard is it to export photos from Ente?
  11. 37:57 Does Ente Auth allow for easy export and backup?
  12. 39:28 How do you backup your Ente photos?
  13. 41:12 How much of Ente's AI photo processing is purely on-device?
  14. 45:51 How do you vet third party software libraries for privacy?
  15. 49:07 What data could Ente give, if required, to law enforcement?
  16. 52:43 How can we pass on our legacy of memories to our kids?
  17. 54:55 What's next for Ente?
  18. 59:43 Interview wrap-up
  19. 1:00:56 Patron podcast preview
  20. 1:01:36 Looking ahead

No transcript yet.

Requests help us decide what to transcribe next.

Frequently asked questions

How long is this episode of Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons Podcast?

This episode is 1 hour and 2 minutes long.

When was this Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons Podcast episode published?

This episode was published on September 29, 2025.

Can I download this Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons Podcast episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.