Ep. 010 | A Moment of Wonder w/ Ryan Swigert

In this engaging conversation, Kassy interviews Ryan Swigert, a magician and learning and development professional. He shares his journey from performing magic tricks as a child to creating impactful training experiences. He discusses the parallels between magic and training, emphasizing the importance of creativity, authenticity in both fields. Ryan also highlights the significance of creating magical moments for learners and the role of performance in effective training delivery. Ryan’s Links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanswigert Kassy’s Links:Website: https://kassylaborie.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kassylaborie/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kassylaborie/ Chapters:00:00 Introducing Ryan Swigert10:16 The Intersection of Magic and Learning17:32 Creating Magical Moments in Training22:48 The Art of Effortless Performance26:09 The Performance of Training28:57 Authenticity in Facilitation32:30 The Balance of Structure and Creativity34:02 Perfectionism in Magic and Training38:01 Learning from Magicians38:25 A Creative Exercise for TrainersTakeaways:Creating magical moments for learners is a key goal in training.Authenticity in delivery enhances the impact of training sessions.Memory techniques can significantly improve learning retention.Perfectionism is common among magicians due to respect for the craft.Training should focus on making leaders shine in front of their teams.magic, learning and development, training, creativity, performance, storytelling, memory techniques, professional development, magician