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EPISODE · Jul 22, 2025 · 52 MIN

Ep. 02 How does change happen?

from Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon · host Sue Gordon & Eric Koepp

Episode Summary: In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric unpack the ODNI’s renewed allegations of an Obama administration conspiracy during the 2016 election and what to make of the recently released documents. They explore if the CIA’s race to adopt AI will replace human agents, respond to the SECDEF memo on drones and the potential revolution in military affairs, if rare earth production is the right use case for government subsidies, and why a cybersecurity grant that’s set to expire could quietly leave local governments exposed. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to Understandable Insights00:31 Sue's Birthday and Podcast Support02:50 ODNI Report on 2016 Election Interference08:43 CIA's Push for AI in Intelligence21:17 US Drone Production Challenges27:52 Revolutionary Military Affairs33:50 US Rare Earth Production Challenges42:41 State Cybersecurity Funding Issues47:34 Predictions and ConclusionsLinks: Defense Innovation Board (DIB) Drone Study RAND Military Revolution StudyRare Earth Roll Call: Laser Beam SongAbout:Welcome to “Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon” — the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.Each week, Eric Koepp — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the headlines shaping our world and ask what they really mean for citizens, leaders, and institutions.From armed conflict to emerging tech, foreign interference to the resilience of democracy — this is where raw information becomes real intelligence. Unfiltered. Candid. Unapologetically clear.Website and Feedback: Remember we’re here for you. Provide us feedback or suggest topics for next time: FeedbackSend us Fan MailJoin us on Youtube, Instagram, and wherever you enjoy your podcasts. New episodes every Tuesday.  Follow or subscribe today.

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Episode Summary: In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric unpack the ODNI’s renewed allegations of an Obama administration conspiracy during the 2016 election and what to make of the recently released documents. They explore if the CIA’s race to adopt AI will replace human agents, respond to the SECDEF memo on drones and the potential revolution in military affairs, if rare earth production is the right use case for government subsidies, and why a cybersecurity grant tha...

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