Ep.04-Martine McDonagh

John talks to Martine McDonagh, novelist, teacher, and lifelong explorer of how we heal - and what it costs.We talk about keeping a beginner's mind, finding humor in the dark, and how therapy can reshape not just the self but the stories we tell. Martine’s take on transformation is raw, funny, and deeply human - proof that the work often knows more than we do.It’s a conversation about curiosity, courage, and the strange alchemy of turning pain into art.Related links:Martine Mcdonagh’s website