Ep. 061: Seattle. Steven Rinella talks with David Allen of the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, along with Navy Seal and author Rorke Denver, Ryan Callaghan of FirstLite, and Janis Putelis of the MeatEater crew.

Subjects discussed: Deadwood, South Dakota; Dale Earnhardt, senior; not being afraid to say "I love you" before it's too late; Bugle magazine; the brucellosis vaccine; livestock detectives and bio-terrorism; chronic wasting disease; conservation easements; the Land and Water Conservation Fund, and how politicians screw with it; the Durfee Hills; Disney Syndrome; the relativity of cruelty; wildlife as a relic of the past; H.J.R. 69 and the unwarranted hysteria it inspires; and more. Connect with Steve and MeatEaterSteve on Instagram and TwitterMeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YoutubeShop MeatEater Merch Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.