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Sep 16, 2025 25 min

Ep. #1014: Swans

from Kreative Kontrol

Michael Gira from Swans is here to discuss their exhilarating new album Birthing, an erotic dream he had about Roy Cohn, Richard Nixon, and the current president of the United States, which inspired a new song, dishonesty and the relative truth, what he reveals about himself in his music and how his aesthetic might relate to those of Bob Dylan and Jim Morrison, including contributions by his wife and children on his records, why Swans might take on a new form, debuting new songs on the road, other future plans, and much more. EVERY OTHER COMPLETE KREATIVE KONTROL EPISODE IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO PATREON SUPPORTERS STARTING AT $6/MONTH. Enjoy this excerpt and please subscribe now via this link to hear this full episode. Thanks! Thanks to Blackbyrd Myoozik, the Bookshelf, Planet Bean Coffee, and Grandad’s Donuts. Support Y.E.S.S., Pride Centre of Edmonton, and Letters Charity. Follow vish online. Related episodes/links: Ep. #980: Alan Sparhawk Ep. #867: BIG|BRAVE Ep. #667: Efrim Manuel Menuck Ep. #648: Lee Ranaldo Ep. #577: Thurston Moore Ep. #561: Steve Von Till Ep. #156: Owen Pallett Ep. #143: Cold Specks Patti Smith (2007)

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