Ep 108 - When You Outgrow the Box You Were Thriving In: An Interview with Dale Harris

Sometimes you have to follow where your calling actually leads, not where people expect it to go. Dawn and Ruth sit down with Dale Harris. He’s a former pastor, current psychotherapy student, and the kind of creative who refuses to pick just one lane.Dale's been making Three Minute Theology videos, writing novels and poetry, releasing music albums, and now? He's transitioning from ministry into mental health work because sometimes you have to follow where your calling actually leads, not where people expect it to go.Here's what makes this conversation so good: Dale gets real about the challenges of being a creative person in a church setting (spoiler: it's complicated), why he's shifting his focus to therapy and writing, and what it's like to integrate all these different pieces of who you are when the world keeps asking you to just be one thing.They're diving into Van Gogh (because art and faith have always been tangled up together), the intersection of music and mental health, the practical side of promoting your creative work without feeling like a fraud, and how to actually overcome imposter syndrome when you're doing something new.This episode is for anyone who's ever felt too creative for the church, too spiritual for the art world, or like they're supposed to stay in the box everyone else built for them. Dale's proof that you don't have to.LINKS: Learn more about Dawn's Group Coaching Opportunity for those starting a side business - https://bigpicturebigpurpose.lpages.co/discern-by-doing-for-business/Find a gift for your favorite minister: consecratebox.com00:26 Christmas Activities and Traditions01:04 Sing-Along and Community Events02:52 Winter Challenges and Festivities05:50 Interview with Dale Harris07:33 Dale Harris: From Ministry to Psychotherapy09:26 Three Minute Theology and Creative Projects13:33 Van Gogh and the Intersection of Art and Faith19:23 Music, Mental Health, and Community20:14 Introduction to Therapy and Songwriting20:54 Transitioning from Ministry to Therapy22:25 Setting Up a Therapy Practice22:57 Writing Practices and Inspirations26:33 Creative Projects and Holy Saturday30:03 Promoting Creative Work36:30 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome39:11 Final Thoughts and Encouragement