Ep. 1082: Gov. Whitmer and Shawn Windsor on the MSU-Michigan rivalry, the Lions and more

from Couch and The Rube · host Graham Couch & Jason Knick

We opened talking Lions and MSU football and what's at stake for the program and Jonathan Smith this Saturday against Michigan. Then a conversation with Gov. Gretchen Whitmer on the MSU-Michigan rivalry, her MSU football memories and NIL (24:30). Followed by a conversation with Detroit Free Press columnist Shawn Windsor on MSU football, the coaching situation, the game against Michigan and the Lions (36:00). Plus, Harry Gagnon joined us to pick this week's football games and with his best bets (1:03:30).

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