EPISODE · Sep 10, 2025 · 1H 4M
EP 11: Covenhoven
from The Underknown Podcast · host TheUnderknown
Joel Van Horne—better known by his moniker Covenhoven—joins The Underknown for a conversation about memories, craft, and staying the course. We trace the roots of his moniker back to his family’s hand-built Wyoming cabin, talk about his dad’s outsized influence (from Dylan records to dumpster-dived guitars), and relive everyone's high school graduation experience - playing Red Rocks. Joel digs into his evolving process—from playing nearly everything himself to opening the door on IV with friends like Ben Wysocki (The Fray), Julie Davis (Bluebook), and Gregory Alan Isakov. We sit with the grief that shaped songs like “Nothing Left to Be,” and then zoom forward to The Color of the Dark and its “field notes” companion: stripped performances recorded outdoors along the West Coast, where wind, birds, and chance became part of the music. Gear talk, open tunings, nylon-string affinity, living-room shows, and plans for a first European run—this one covers a lot of ground with a quiet, steady heart.
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Songwriter/multi-instrumentalist Covenhoven (Joel Van Horne) unpacks the meaning behind his moniker, the family cabin that inspired it, and the fatherly influence that shaped his ear—plus a memorable Red Rocks mishap. We explore his shift from solo-everything to collaborations on IV, we talk grief, the The Color of the Dark and the “field notes” he recorded outdoors along the West Coast. Open tunings, nylon strings, and why patience—and place—still matter.
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