Ep. 11 PERT Consortium Recap: New Developments in PE with Dr. Jonathan Paul and Dr. Osman Ahmed

PERT Consortium 2025 gives interventionalists the reins to tackle even the toughest saddle pulmonary embolisms. In this episode of the BackTable Podcast, host Dr. Aaron Fritts welcomes interventional radiologist Dr. Osman Ahmed and interventional cardiologist Dr. Jonathan Paul to discuss their experiences at the annual PERT Consortium in San Diego, and offer their perspectives on the latest developments in pulmonary embolism (PE) treatment. --- SYNPOSIS The doctors delve into advancements and trials within the PE treatment space, including new devices and clinical studies that are set to shape the future of pulmonary embolism care. The conversation highlights the value of collaboration between interventional specialties, the safety and efficacy of various PE interventions, and the growing trend of using combined therapies. They also provide updates on their ongoing innovation with Flow Medical, describing their philosophy and motivation for developing a new device for PE treatment that incorporates real-time pulmonary artery pressures, mean systolic and diastolic pressures, and a potential for AI utilization in the future. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction01:23 - PERT Consortium Highlights02:11 - Emerging Clinical Trials and Innovations03:59 - Thrombectomy Devices and Market Trends12:37 - Flow Medical: Origin and Updates19:37 - Advanced Data Tracking in Cardiology20:45 - Remote Monitoring and Mobile Integration22:45 - Cardiologists’ Data-Driven Approach23:10 - Upcoming Studies and Data Insights24:10 - Interventional Radiology and Cardiology Collaboration25:07 - Access to Care and Procedure Adoption27:32 - Final Thoughts --- RESOURCES Pulmonary Embolism Response Team (PERT) Consortiumhttps://pertconsortium.org/ Flow Medicalhttps://www.flowmedical.co/ PEERLESS RCThttps://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.124.072364 RESCUE-IIhttps://www.jacc.org/doi/10.1016/j.jacadv.2025.101789 PEERLESS II https://www.jscai.org/article/S2772-9303(24)01053-6/fulltext Pulmonary Embolism - Thrombus Removal With Catheter-Directed Therapy (PE-TRACT)https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT05591118 The HI-PEITHO Studyhttps://www.bostonscientific.com/en-EU/medical-specialties/vascular-surgery/venous-thromboembolism-portal/pulmonary-embolism/clinical-data/hi-peitho.html PRAGUE-26https://eurointervention.pcronline.com/article/design-and-rationale-of-prague-26-a-multicentre-randomised-trial-of-catheter-directed-thrombolysis-for-intermediate-high-risk-acute-pulmonary-embolism Pulmonary Embolism - Thrombus Removal With Catheter-Directed Therapy (PE-TRACT) https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT05591118 Aaron Fritts, MDhttps://www.backtable.com/shows/vi/contributors/dr-aaron-fritts Osman Ahmed, MDhttps://jointvascular.com/team/osman-ahmed-m-d-fcirse/ Jonathan Paul, MDhttps://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jonathan-d-paul