I'm already playing on cutting all this out. Or this will be the main part of it. We'll see. Hello and welcome to WNC original music episode 119, the unencrypted episode.
This week, very happy to have Koya on the podcast. Koya is a singer songwriter based out of Greensboro, North Carolina. He's had a couple of albums out, starting with the friction on April of 2013. He's also toward the East Coast, and he's got a lot of new videos out on his Facebook and Instagram page.
So I want to make sure you check those out. Just look for the sites in the show notes or also on the social media pages. You'll see or even better go to koyomusic.com that's C-O-I-A music.com for all that kind of information and weeks to his music and all that stuff. We had a really good time talking.
I did. I think he did. We'll see. If you, will you ask him and see what he says?
But I'm pretty sure he did. We had a pretty good time talking and about his music and everything else. And I think you're going to really enjoy his music, which you're going to hear right now. Here is Koya.
Yeah. So chasing is one of one of my favorite songs that I get to that I get to play that I got to record because it holds really near and dear to my heart for what it's about the subject of the song. So I wrote chasing on the topic of for me, I knew or I've known what I wanted to do kind of my whole life as a group up. As a kid, you know, you hear all the time people praising you and and loving on you because you know what you want to do.
They love that, right? Including me and my daughter and I did the same thing to her about stuff. And but for me playing music or knowing I wanted to do music for for a living. When I was in high school, you know, freshman in high school, it was really a death sentence for me because nothing I knew.
Nothing else would make me happier. I would much rather have found out when I was young, I wanted to be a mechanic or something. I don't know because then, you know, it wouldn't have been so hard. And chasing is about really kind of the title is in a song chasing after that dream, knowing you're not given up for anything.
And and that's what your heart desire is is is to run after that goal, run after that dream that you have. That's what that song is about. Can you tell me just a little bit about the EP itself? Was it all recorded kind of all at one time or one song here, one song there sort of thing?
So the album was for the most part recorded all at once. I recorded the whole thing myself and then sent it to a friend of mine, Brooks Pascal, who added some instruments and produced it himself. And he is great, but it was cool because by the way, when I say that to just leave a gem on the floor there, as he's I say, he's great because he really. Yeah.
He really is spinning gold at a nonsense. I mean, I give him, you know, just recorded instruments and of what I think the song I'd like to sound like. And he is really producing Centurion into some really great stuff. But the back to your go ahead, we're going to say.
Oh, does he have a does he have a recording studio? He does. He owns Mockingbird Studios. Yeah, in Tyler's Exis.
Yes. Oh, yeah. And I guess going back to your question. So I recorded, I knew I went into the recording process, knowing that I had five songs I wanted to do on the EP.
And as I got around to the third or fourth song, I was getting ready to record the fifth one. And I realized where I just felt like it just wasn't good enough. And I was actually in my office and started writing a song and it just came out naturally, which was until the stars come down. And it just I mean, I wrote the song in about maybe 20 minutes.
I came out naturally and every part of the song just really flowed. And I was really blessed to be a part of that and being a room for that. And then that was the album. Yeah, once I had that fifth song, that's kind of how it got completed.
Man, feel for you has been a struggle since day one. I think it's one of the more mature songs I have written, but still to this day, even from the producing side of it, when I gave it to Brooks, what I gave to him was very different than when he gave back to me. And I love that even working with him and figuring out maybe we should push these instruments to the forefront. Maybe we should change his bridge or whatnot.
He helped me to really pull the best out of that song. But still to this day, I am very self-conscious about that song. I'm always afraid. I think anyone who writes music is afraid that someone else is going to like it.
But I very much, whatever I play that song, I think I'm always looking for the acknowledgement or whatever the crowd is. No, it's OK. You're talking song. We like it.
Don't worry. Validation, I guess. There it is. Yeah, it's exactly right.
Yeah, validation piece. And I do think it's one of my better songs, but it's very ironic that I think it's one of my better songs. And I think it's also a song I think a lot of people would dislike. So it's interesting.
What makes you say that? That's an interesting take on it. Because I think it's a lot less pop. And maybe I'm wrong.
I feel songs are for me a lot more about feeling. I feel like that song is a lot less pop than the other songs of my album are. And it's a lot less alternative as well. And I would put myself in the bracket of alternative pop music.
And so without the alternative or without the pop, it leaves me very bare and insecure. But I do remember writing that song while my daughter was a year and a half. And it was I do remember that struggle of feel of I was babysitting her while watching her at the time. And trying to write a song while trying to watch my daughter at the same time.
But I think it birthed something. No pun intended. Good. What is from a Steve play?
Are you playing on the book on the EP and just in general? So I play everything I play. I'm playing on the EP, which is mainly just piano, electric and acoustic guitar and vocals. There is some bass that I do, but I don't do any of the bass on the EP.
I can play as I can play bass as good as a guitar player can play bass. Right. I wouldn't ask me to play a show for somebody. That's that's unusual.
I would say I would say majority of guitars think they can play bass because they can play guitar. Because we're thinking about well top four strings and you've got four strings. You know, who's the difference? Right.
I mean, I wouldn't. Right. I would like serve at a church or I would help someone out. I don't know that I would ever accept.
Don't put me on my feet to the fire on this. I don't know that I would ever accept a check in return for my big service. Yes. Oh my goodness.
Pull me up other than till the stars come down is my favorite song on that EP. I wrote that song first a very long time ago and it was intended to be the lyrics were changed to be a worship song. And I felt like I had more to say on the song. The song just didn't live up and say enough and express enough through my version of it being a worship song.
And so I changed it and gosh, I just I love that song. I don't really feel like it came out the best on the album, but I still love it so much. And it's my favorite song hands down to play live right now of my original songs. It is I try not to talk too much about what songs are about just because I love that a song kind of becomes someone else's identity when they hear it.
And you know, the glue that becomes what they are sticking to is their own personal experience with that song. And I like it. I don't want to steal that away from anybody. So I want to be careful.
But pull me up vaguely from a 5,000 feet distance foot distance is about I'll say it's about struggling with being yourself and facing your inner demons and the crosses that we tend to carry in this life. And just to struggle with trying to be yourself in a world that doesn't cater and motivate you to be yourself. Tell me a little bit about your, just your band, your musical experience. I like how you got into music.
Tell me a little bit about your musical background. There we go. Yeah. So I like.
No fairs. So I grew up playing music in church and youth groups a lot. And as I was becoming a Christian, as around the same time that I was learning how to play in bands and play with other people. And I started leading worship at youth group and then I started leading worship at church, a big church services.
And all throughout that time, I was joining bands, starting up bands, learning music on my own. I learned how to play guitar to no joke, playing electric guitar to Blinken 82s. Oh my gosh, I can have an end of the state. Sorry, I was going to say take off your pants, but that's not good.
I learned guitar to Blinken 82s and my estate. And yeah, I just, I loved melodies growing up. And so I got into bands and we, you know, as you do in a band, you played the cover songs, the songs you love over and over again. And, and yeah, I just was leading worship being in bands so much in my life that it was just a pretty clear trajectory for me of where I knew I wanted to go, which was to do music full time and just how I just knew I had to figure out real quick from a young age.
How do I do music full time for a living? What do I do? And I think the coolest, for me, the coolest, coolest, coolest thing about growing up and doing music when you're a kid is that you don't overthink every aspect of music. You don't think about, for the most part, you know, it wasn't until I got into college, I started to think about how do I do this for a living with money and money that involved.
When you're a kid, all you think about is I love this melody or I love this, this aspect of music, whether it's playing something on a guitar, singing a chorus, playing a bass line, the way a distortion sounds, I, you, you, you gravitate to those things. You get glued to those things and those are the hands that carry you through learning music and learning how to be in a musician. I love that. I love that so much.
I try my best as much as possible to go back mentally to those times because those are the times you don't, you don't, you're not practicing, right? You're in love. It's just the act of being in love. And so yes, I love that.
There's a song I blink when I eat to called Wendy Clear and the chorus of it on that song and the mother state, the chorus of it that I can play with and it's just a soft guitar in the background. And so that's what I like to mean. That and the guitar progression of Crash from Dave Matthews Bay. That was, that is learning music for me.
Oh my goodness. That, that, Crash is such a, I mean, it's hard to say, because it's such a popular song that is underrated, but it really just musically, it is such a complex song based on a, based on kind of a droning riff, but a fairly complex droning riff, you know, and it has the, has a little bit of a chord change, but also kind of stays in the same area. But then so much happens around it. It's just very impressive.
I agree completely. I feel like that song would make for a really great hot take, but I can't figure out what the hot take would be quite yet. Marching band version of it would be interesting. Yeah.
Yeah. It's true. If it didn't change chords on the chorus, I would be curious to know if that would be one of the few songs, like how many other songs out there stay on the same chord progression the entire song. So probably a lot.
But do you have a musical impression that you do? I don't, you know, I don't have too many musical impressions. I don't, I don't, I mean, I could do like a, like a little case of case. Like, glory, yeah.
That wasn't like bad. It's not bad. I wonder if I can. What's his, can you do is, what's his saying?
He has like keep your feet on the ground, but keep reaching for the stars. I had no clue. Oh yeah. You like a05.
50 on the ground, but keep reaching for the stars. But in yourTestKsius. It's like a. Keep your feel on the ground and keep your keep your feeling around it, but you can reach for the stars done.
Here you go. and keep reaching for the stars. This is K.C.K.S. That was really good.
Now, K.C.K.S. I'm did, here's the voice of Shaggy from Scooby-Doo, so can you do Shaggy too? Oh, okay. I figured it out.
All right, let's do it. No, I mean, I probably think it's not musical. Yeah, yeah. It's like Christopher Walker, you know?
Like, anyway, like, wow, plays a wall. Like, it's right now. And, you're like, oh, no, it's worth it. Do you have like a brief musical lesson or a musical advice for people?
Not musical advice, like you sing the advice, but advice about music. Or if you want to sing some advice. It's just, yeah. Right.
That's weird because I actually prepared musical advice and not advice about music. So. Sorry. I, yeah, I actually think about this the other day.
The biggest two things. So there's someone asking me to interview the other day, what advice would I give myself when I was younger? And so that would be, don't worry so much about where you want to be in the future, where you want to see yourself in the future, musically. Just enjoy right now.
But specifically, musically, I think any advice I would give to someone else playing an instrument is the same advice people have given to me that have always held true, which is spend time with your instrument, fall in love with spending time with your instrument. And just love that. Enjoy that. Because that's no, that's bigger than any monetary price tag.
That's bigger than anything else that's going to come your way, whether that's fame or success. You know, when the rest of the band is gone, when those guys are not in the room anymore, that's one of the only things that will still be with you as your instrument. So. More from Koya in just a few moments.
I did forget to mention that his latest release is called Chasing. That's Chasing. It's available on Spotify and for download. Again, just go to his website, which is koyamusic.com.
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Hey, this is Jesse from the Pinkerton Raid, and you're listening to WNC Original Music. Now we're going to play a quiz. This is for, you can win either a CD, a t-shirt, or a painting from Matt Walsh. Okay, so he's going to donate something if you win this contest.
It's a real contest. I'm not going to help you win it. And the guy who, I'm actually using the same one from last week because the guy didn't win it and I hasn't aired yet. So here we go.
All right, so you have to guess who wrote these, you have to guess who wrote four out of five of these songs, I'm going to tell you. And when you do. Not they had came out with, right? Right, right.
So who actually wrote the song? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
And you have to get four out of five. And I'm going to give you, it'll be multiple choices. I'll give you three choices. All right, starting off with the easy one.
I will always love you by Whitney Houston. And the choices are, do you know already? You wrote it? I think so.
Okay, Emmy Lou Harris, Dolly Parton, Glenn Fry. Dolly Parton. Correct. All right, that's one.
All right. It's raining men. Do you know that song? I do.
Yeah. That's right. Okay. Your choices are Paul Shafer, the Thompson twins, Cole Porter.
I really want to say Paul Shafer, but I don't think that's my final answer. Okay. Cole Porter, that's my final answer. Oh, it was Paul Shafer.
Oh, I should have stuck with it. I know. Well, do I get to know with the other questions or at least? Oh, well, you still have three chances.
You have to get four out of five. Oh, great. Yeah. So you're still in it.
You're still in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And we'll play for even if you miss one. We'll play just to see what you know. I should think of a second place prize. It's kind of terrible, you know, if you get just one.
You get really bummed that I didn't say Phil Shafer. Pink's got the party started. And do you know that song? Do you know that song?
Yeah. That song's not hip because I know it. I'll tell you the first name. The first name is Linda Perry, but what band was she in?
She's Linda Perry of the Go-Go's, four non-blondes, or the Pixies. I'm having the same situation. Oh, you're killing me. I'm really embarrassed.
I don't know these answers. Who do you want to say? Okay. So I want to say I want to say give me the choices one more time.
So the young lady's name is Linda Perry of the band the Go-Go's, four non-blondes, or the Pixies. I want to say it's the Pixies. In fact, I'm going to say the Pixies. No, four non-blondes.
All right. I wouldn't have gotten that. I'm okay with that. All right.
All right. Now we're just playing for pride. Okay. Okay.
Prince, right. Exactly. I wish I could give you a try. Woo.
But I can't. Legal. UB40's Red Red Wine. That's the first time I didn't say Red Red Wine.
Neil Zadaka, Johnny Cash, or Neil Diamond. Neil Diamond. Right. So Till the Stars Come Down is easily by far and away my favorite song that I have ever written.
However, I am embarrassed to say that. Or not quite embarrassed, not quite ashamed, but I'm hesitant to say that. Because I think I'm very affected by, like a lot of musicians, I'm very affected by the other musicians who have already made it in the world and what their gravity does to us. I feel like it would be weird.
You just don't hear many bands. You don't hear John Mayer talking about your bodies and one of them being his favorite song. In fact, it's usually the other way around. Usually Maroon Phi is saying that she will be loved as not their favorite song.
They just had to put it out or something like that. Right. Or even if it was, they're so sick of it. That's exactly right.
Yeah. And so maybe this interview will stand as a litmus test for me, not being experienced in a exhibition. But I love, I have had over heels for Head of the Stars Come Down. It came about, it was just so simple.
I really believe the blessing of writing songs sometimes is that you're just in the room for it. Maybe, there was no one else in the room when Till the Stars came down was written. I wrote everything about it. But I don't like every other song I've written and how I would guess every other songwriter would guess, would say that their songs have been written.
I was just in the room. I can't really be held responsible. I mean, yeah, that sounds negative to say or irresponsible to say. But it's kind of true.
It's like, for the lyrics, sure, I was more responsible for that than the melody. But these things just come to you. You know, and you really, all it is action-wise on your part in terms of songwriting is really just a opening and closing of the gate. It's just a, yeah, we'll let that idea through.
We like it enough. And so I was just grateful to be in the room. But moving past that, I say that, I guess to say, that's why I love to listening down so much is because, you know, I would listen to my music. And I do listen to my music.
I cannot stand it when people say they don't because why would you ever put out a song that you don't want to hear? You know, and I want to hear until the stars come down. I know that makes me sounds prideful or whatever. But it's the truth.
And especially to play, you don't want to play a song that you don't like. That's not fun. Yeah, I agree. No, I agree wholeheartedly.
What's your favorite song you've ever written? What's the worst song you've ever written? Oh, great question. Okay.
Obviously, it's probably not going to be when you record it unless it was on the stage or something. Okay. All right. You know what?
Oh, no. I will actually. Okay. So, I'm not going to go crazy on me.
Yeah. But there is a song. There is a song. I've been trying to.
I have a good reason for why it's my worst song. I've been trying to write this song for maybe 10 years now. And I just can't do it. I just cannot do it.
But it has a cool feel of it. It's like a. And there's a chorus part that I like a lot. So I won't play that.
I won't give that away. But that right now is my worst song because for the life of me, I cannot write it. But I heard that sailing took Christopher Cross like two years to write the verse or something like that. Oh, yeah.
That's not good. That's not bad. So. Thank you.
Thank you. If that's what causes it to get written, I'm okay with that. That had a good song. You just played it has almost like an instant earworm feel to it.
I think that God has blessed me with the ability to create those earworms pretty quickly. And that's a blessing. I don't take that for granted. I think I do melodies well.
But God is very good at balancing the scales. And so there's a lot of weakness that comes along and a lot of self-consciousness that comes along with those earworms. But I really appreciate that compliment. Thank you.
Oh, true. I'll be interested. If I can hum it to myself tomorrow, I'll let you know. Yeah.
Right. Right. The data this interview is going to have to go down in the copyright. Oh, yeah.
Well, this is your proof. I mean, it's being recorded right now. Yeah, that's true. All right.
I got four random questions here. One of them is not so random. What instrument do you wish you played that you don't snap fingers drums? Okay.
Where'd you go on your last vacation? To what mountain was it? Pilot Mountain. Oh, yeah.
Pilot Mountain. And that was awesome. We started a tradition where we are going to stay in a cabin every Christmas. So this was a first year there.
Oh, what's a DVD that you own that you bought, not someone gave you? Wow. Really great question. A DVD.
Okay. A DVD that I own that no one gave me. Well, I don't own any DVDs anymore just because I gave my, like most people probably, gave my, my flip through book of sleeves away. Yeah.
But, oh, okay. You too. Vertigo, DVD live. Oh, yeah, cool.
All right. Yes. That was my last concert. It was you two in Vancouver.
Wow. What was the nice? It was the Joshua Tree, like 20th anniversary. It's more than 20th anniversary anniversary anniversary.
Some of the anniversary, but they did the whole Joshua Tree album. Where do you buy your clothes? I have a shame to say H&M for the most part. Why are you a shame to say H&M?
What's wrong with H&M Live? That was the right next question. I don't know. I feel like I'm shopping now.
I feel like I'm a 40 year old or six year old putting on skinny jeans. You know, I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm going to put on kids clothes. So who you're running from is the biggest song I probably would never say what it's about because it has a lot of openness of what it could be about for a lot of people. And I liked that for a long time.
I liked the song a lot, but I didn't know if it was going to be applicable enough for people if they were going to understand it or if they would. I think the melody is catchy enough that people would like it easily enough off the bat, but I didn't know if the melody or not the melody. I'm sorry. I didn't know if the lyrics were going to be meaningful enough and understandable enough to people.
So I was really afraid, but that is a song that means a lot to me and of all the songs on the album, that's actually the one that I'm the happiest it came out with that have how it came out. I think Brooks just did an amazing job. I was walking my dog when he sent me the final draft of that song and I listened to it on my headphones and if I'm with, I don't want to exaggerate. I'm pretty sure I was like yelling out loud in the neighborhood as I was listening to.
Yeah, I'm just really, really happy with how it came out. Brooks came up with the guitar line, the solo guitar, instrumental guitar line rather, and I love what he did on that. He also pushed me to add the background vocals on the very last chorus and he was very much responsible for seeing the potential of that song and exposing it. So I'm really grateful sonically for that song.
Where do you want, like, where's your preferred place for people to find your music, like your website or go to Bandcamp or what do you want them to do? Spotify seems to give the most credit to artists right now in terms of statistics and all that sort of stuff and analytics. So I would say Spotify, but gosh, to be honest with you, I would just be like a tool bag if someone listened to my music and I told them, well, actually go to Spotify instead. I mean, if you have listened to a song of mine and you enjoyed it, dude, I will put me to the test on this.
I'll give it to you for free. I'll give it to anyone. Oh, you gave it to me for free. Yeah, sure.
There you go. But yeah, I'll have links. You know, I have like your Spotify link and Bandcamp, whatever links you have. So just somebody listening to this, they'll know, you know, if you prefer Spotify, they can go to the description now and just click on Spotify.
So do that. Go right now. After you listen to this episode, click on Spotify. Yeah, listen to this episode on Spotify.
I'm just going to do my own commercial right here in the middle of our podcast episode. Tell me about your first live show you ever played. Wow. Well, you know, what's tough about that is I've been leading worship in churches for so long that that's kind of like a live show in many regards.
My first. So, okay. Oh, very cool. Well, not not leading worship.
I started off probably my first live experience was playing bass guitar at a church. Oh, awesome. And bass guitar. What a great position to have really interesting perspective on the band.
Yeah. I'll be honest and say because I don't want to lie. I don't know when my first show actually was no, I take it back. Ron, I take it back.
Look at. Oh my goodness. I can't believe I remember this. Okay.
It was here in North Carolina. It was in Greensboro here at a venue called Green Street. And it was horrible. I mean, I have to be expected, but we were supposed to be playing at Oh, something.
Ace's basement. Godly. Anyone from there's no one from our country. But if they do, wait, I mean, I assume that you're going to tell people to listen.
I don't know. Let's go over the contract. Wait a minute. We got a bigger, bigger.
I don't know if you noticed, but it just came out yesterday that this podcast is number seven in the Solomon Islands. So it's a pretty big deal. So that's true. Number seven out of all.
That's not even like I said, of all podcast in Solomon Islands. So listen, when when we get there, I just want to make sure that you don't forget the little people. Oh, when it all goes to your head, all right. I mean, I'll be living in Solomon Islands because that's where I'm talking.
Yeah. So obviously you're doing a lot of your stuff. Yeah. I think about six months ago, I got to notice that I was number seven in Croatia, which is I was looking up the population.
I was like, Oh, that's several million people. Okay, that's not bad at all. Yeah. All you got to do is just market to the soccer team and you're in.
I apologize. I don't. Oh, we were talking about the worst show. Yeah.
Yeah. So, so, you know what? Am I answering the wrong question? Did you say the first show or the worst show?
I said the first show, but let's hear the worst show too. In fact, I'm going to, for future reference, I'm right. First show, worst show. That'd be like a little segment, first show, worst show.
Oh, man. You know, I'll be honest. I don't know what my worst show is. Nothing stands out, but that's just that.
I mean, I'll tell you a story of a very horrible show that sticks out in my mind. And this might be my worst show. So a long time ago, when I lived in Nashville, this was after I had really started doing music and play shows. I played plenty of shows at this point, but I was playing a cover show and I had not really started playing cover shows much.
It was about five years ago in Nashville and I played at a barbecue place on East Nashville. And in East Nashville, I can't remember the name of it right now, but it was just, oh, Ron, it was horrible. It was, it was so bad that I still am embarrassed looking back at that show. I mean, just so many songs started and stopped.
So many songs ended halfway middle of the song, midway through just a horrible, you know, when you hear a song that you love and you don't want to hear someone do it because you know how bad they're going to butcher it. That was me. That was absolutely good. And I think it's really it really provided for any, any bits, any second where I'm doing something in music that's not embarrassing nowadays.
It provided for a lot of really good perspective and a good mindset to appreciate those times now. Did you get like a field or input from the audience of that show? What they thought of? No one responded at all.
I mean, I, so I, I, I have a big gauge, like a really sensitive gauge for, for what's the word, um, I just lost it for like, like feel bad applause. Does that make sense? Yeah, simply sympathy applause. Yes.
Thank you. Yeah. I have a really, really, really sensitive gauge for that. And so a lot of the mic in this place are clapping the bone.
Yeah, right, right, right. You know, right. You're doing you going honey, you keep going. He's got a really great person.
You'll get a really great person. So, you know, yeah, I just remember that. I remember a lot of people clapping, you know, hesitantly like, good job. Thank you for trying.
But I think ultimately, man, I think this, I don't, it's tough to say that those times that they, I mean, they do change when you dig a little bit deeper into becoming a career musician. But really, I think what changes ultimately is you gain confidence, not the US, but you gain confidence about your own music and your own performance and your bar of your gauge of what's worthy to be played in front of someone. I think becomes solidified. And that for me is what I notice now, because I say I ask myself those same questions these days that you're asking me now.
What is different? How do you know that you're different than back in those days? And what's really, what's really interesting and ironic is that sure, the crowds have changed some, but for the most part, it's been me that's changed the most, not so much the crowds, the crowds response. So, yeah, leads to what's your best.
My best show, or one of them. And so one of my best shows, okay, okay. So one of my best shows was actually, and I'm just gonna put this in the box of a show I'm just grateful of and I'm just gonna brag on it. That's the best way I can do this, was actually this past weekend.
And it's not such low hanging fruit. There's a really meaningful thing to take from me, a really meaningful show, because it was one of the very first shows where people have ever danced to songs I was playing in a upbeat fashion. I don't want to say it's not hard to do or whatever, but I'll just say it's, it's not the most unheard of thing to someone to dance, for a couple to dance to thinking out loud for med shear. That's gonna happen, and that's awesome when it does, but it's gonna happen.
It's a totally different thing for people to start dancing. I don't know to jump and jive or something like that. Bob Seger's good time in rock and roll. More of a leap for that person dancing to fast dance.
I mean, people tend to be more inhibited about that sort of thing. You're exactly right. You called it. And I didn't even think that I had really paid attention to that idea.
And that's completely right. So, especially as someone who is, I'm very shy, I'm an introvert. I hate the idea of dance. Like, when I proposed to my wife, I barely got down.
I won me. And it was a concert with a bunch of people, thousands of people there. So, I hate attention if it's not intentional. And yeah, so knowing that, being that kind of person, I was just so grateful and just so taken aback in a positive way that there were people dancing to me playing music.
I mean, that's a really big honor and a big compliment. So, that was a really great show for me. Okay, I want to thank Koya for being on the podcast. Just as you can tell, just a really great guy, super positive.
His music is really great. He has great attitude and just really fun to talk to. And I've seen some clips of him playing live. If you get a chance to see him live, that's a really fun experience too.
Don't forget to go and visit his website. That's koyamusic.com. C-O-I-A music.com. Also, I would like to thank Koya for having a name I have to spell because everyone knows that's the most popular part of the podcast, it's when I spell things.
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Don't do just one. The closing song this week is from Snacks at Midnight. They are an indie funk rock band from Spokane, Washington, my hometown. They were just voted second best band in Spokane, Washington, and you can find their album, Moms Proud, at their website Snacks at Midnight Official.com.
Thanks for listening. Have a good week. It's Tom, see you guys will do the Tom thing you enjoy.