Ep #119: What if work has become incompatible with being human, with Kimberly Shaw

What if the problem was never that people can't cope, but that we've built a way of working no human was ever meant to sustain?Just think about that for a moment.This thought sits at the heart of my conversation with Kimberly Shaw, founder and principal of the Canadian change and transformation consultancy Changify. For more than twenty years she has worked inside complex organisational change, helping businesses navigate mergers, transformations and the realities of leading through uncertainty.Where Kimberly goes is somewhere more interesting than frameworks. She takes one of leadership's favourite words and then turns it back on itself. Resilience, she suggests, has become something organisations expect from people, rather than something they are willing to build for them.And a bigger question then follows.If trust, connection and psychological safety are the first things to disappear whenever the pressure rises, were they ever really part of the system at all?We cover a lot of ground, and Kimberly's energy carries all of it.The full episode is out now.👉 In the meantime, don't forget to share your thoughts on the episode, leave a review, and subscribe!If you'd like to stay updated on future episodes and other inspiring stories from TIE, join our newsletter here.If you'd like to order my international bestselling book Return on Humanity: Leadership Lessons from All Corners of the World, you can do that here.