Ep. 125-Break the tonal center-my conversation with Tumi Mogorosi

Last summer 2025 I made my first ever trip to South Africa, specifically Johannesburg, Durban and Cape Town. I went there to make connections, interview local jazz artists, elders and community leaders.  One of the very talented artists I connected with was jazz drummer, composer and scholar Tumi Mogorosi. We took a deep dive into his journey as an artist and activist. He spoke about what inspired him to play the drums and to study the rich history of this music we call jazz. He expressed the importance of knowing his history as a South African and all that it entails, including the horrors of apartheid, the 1976 Soweto uprising and the injustices that continue to exist today. We dove into his projects as a leader which include the 2014 “Project Elo”, “Sanctum Santorium” with his partner and vocalist Gabi Motuba, and his most recent album Group Theory: Black Music. We touched on his collaborations with Shabaka Hutchings’ Shabaka and The Ancestors and lastly as a historian, he expressed his deep appreciation for Frantz Fanon and why his work is so relevant, even today.