EPISODE · May 11, 2026 · 23 MIN
Ep 125: Who is Medical on a Rescue Task Force?
from C3 Podcast: Active Shooter Incident Management · host Bill Godfrey, Kevin Nichols, Kelly Boaz
After training over 30,000 responders in 2,700 active shooter exercises across the country, we keep seeing the same gap: when EMS isn’t fire-based, the written plan for who goes inside and how transport capacity is protected is often unclear. In this episode of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast, Bill Godfrey talks with instructors Kevin Nichols and Kelly Boaz about practical ways to solve that problem before the incident happens. They discuss: The “no ambulance if you take the medic off the ambulance” dilemma in non–fire-based EMS systems Why getting private, hospital-based, and third-service EMS into RTF training is critical Whether you really need paramedics inside the warm zone, or if EMT-level skills are enough for most RTF work How smaller communities can use existing EMTs in police/fire, callback systems, hospitals, and CERT-type volunteers Working through policies like “who can drive the ambulance” with private providers and risk management Six key questions your plan should answer about RTF staffing, warm-zone care, and protecting transport capacity The theme is simple: the gaps are real, but they’re fixable if you sit down now with EMS, fire, law enforcement, hospitals, and emergency management and work the problem together. Get the Active Shooter Incident Management Checklist & Help Guide to support your RTF, triage, and transport planning: https://ncier.org/asim/checklist View this episode on YouTube at: https://youtu.be/an5NNOmbiTg #ActiveShooterResponse #IncidentManagementSystem #FirstResponders #LawEnforcementTraining #FireEMS #Podcast Like what you hear? Drop a review and subscribe to our Podcast Channel. If you have questions, you can send them to [email protected] with “Podcast Question” in the subject line. Check out our websites and learn more about C3 Pathways / NCIER by going to: https://www.c3pathways.com or https://www.ncier.orgThe Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast is owned by C3 Pathways and NCIER. None of the content presented may be copied, repurposed, or used without the owner’s prior consent.
What this episode covers
In many communities, EMS is separate from the fire department – which raises a critical question: who actually performs the medical mission on the Rescue Task Force, and how do you keep ambulances in service while you do it? In this episode, we discuss realistic options for staffing RTFs, the balance between putting medics in the warm zone and keeping transport units on the road, the role of training and policy with private and hospital-based EMS, and six key questions every community should answer in writing before the next incident.
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