What happens when a local ghost the legend and a real life tragedy collide? And then we take a look at the story of two people who believe that they saw into the future saw a tragedy that they may have been able to Advert but because they doubted their own supernatural powers did it lead to the unintentional deaths of people around I'm having a great day That's what you should tell you I didn't go and it was great and everything is great except for the tongue ulcer And in fact that I have to put out a podcast right I can't not put out an episode just as my tongue hurts You see too much spicy food lately. There's a place here in town that serves a thing called the $20 burrito It's $20 and it's delicious It's delicious except for the mouth ulcer you can sometimes get while you're devouring it But someone who never has mouth ulcers someone whose tongue is as pristine the day was born walking into dead Radio command everyone get on your feet and give it up for B s whoa, yeah, we ha ha he's all shown his tongue off He's all licking everything licking the spiciest things in dead radio command BS is one of our legacy patreon supporters and BS That is why you today are going to be our captain our pilot You guys can't support the patreon I totally understand I really do just helps for the word about dead rabbit radio that helps out so much Tell your friends tell your family tell everyone you know dead rabbit radio is your favorite paranormal show and forgive any mispronunciations of this episode Or past episodes as well. I'm gonna navigate as best as I can with this All sir tongue this it's just a little tiny dog I'm gonna be made to be better to be honest.
It does hurt hurts the talk but what are you gonna do? Bs let's go ahead and get this party started I'm gonna toss you the hair hanger lighter everyone grab onto Bs his ankles as he jumps off the highest point of dead radio command and glides us all the way out to Maine We're walking around Maine specifically we're headed to Holton Maine We're here to investigate a ghost story that is unusual in and of itself, but then it led me down this bizarre rabbit hole I'm a copyright that sir Let me down this bizarre rabbit hole to a mystery. I never even knew existed and it's a mystery that is all around us every single day You encounter something I encounter something and we look at it. We go huh?
Apparently in this town. I saw some disagreement online. There's a place called hemore Road Some people say it's in Holton I looked it up on Google Earth I was getting it closer to Ludlow or Hammond those are other towns in the area But it could be a giant long road, you know or you know roads have same names sometimes We're at hemore Road and we see this old greenhouse Sitting on this road. It's been abandoned since 66 1966.
Don't get too excited not 1766 It's been abandoned since 1966 the reason why is back then there was a young mother with nine children Mommy mommy. I need new socks. Mom mom. I need shoes I'm hungry mommy and mom's like yes nine all nine of my children I'll give you shoes and socks you saw feet in the baby socks and giving the older kid a baby who's where she's just totally acting right like you There's a lot of kids anyway, you cut it, but to make matters worse Apparently she also I thought these things were instant.
I didn't know that you could have one and you go to the doctor and the doctor goes I don't know what's wrong with you bleeding half the years or all you're barely conscious I don't know just maybe take a break Shuffle off those nine kids the nearest relative and hang out apparently she died of an undiagnosed brain aneurysm I thought those are just kind of instant. I thought you just kind of fell over dead But maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm wrong I didn't do what I'm stupid researching the other thing they were gonna get into that totally blue my mind But one day she's walking around the house and she keels over and all nine of her kids are like mommy I'm making extra depressing right the baby's like I was just bored I need milk Just making super depressing they just brought a new puppies doesn't got new puppies home She dies she dies of this undiagnosed brain aneurysm I'm sure the kids did fight in 1966. It wasn't like they didn't all go to work at a steel mill I'm sure they got treated fine. I'm sure that they went to foster homes or whatever relatives Anyways, the mom died now apparently if you go out to this area outside of this home this old green house Like I said I tried looking up I found the road But it wasn't near Holton and I tried to find the house I'm trying to house to see if I could go Oh, maybe we could go maybe you could go there if you live in Maine and send me pictures apparently if you go near this house You feel an overwhelming sense of loneliness You just go there and you're oh my god.
It's a crippling Crippling isolation you feel like you never been loved and never will be loved There's a reason why they don't put this in the tourist brochure. It's because of the crippling depression That in and of itself, it's interesting right paranormal you go near this house you feel totally isolated But what's even more exciting was even more exciting than raw Unfiltered depression is that apparently people have said that if you're walking by this house or driving by this house you'll see money fly out of the windows Dollar dollar bills y'all flying out of the windows and of course people are gonna stop and run over to get the money It's so sad. They're like oh my financial problems are solved Oh, my mother never loved me. You're all crawling on the ground sobbing trying to pick up this money apparently money flies out of the windows People see this happen, but if you go to get the money, there's nothing there Hey, I find it super interesting It's bizarre right now.
I think it's even as a local ghost story kind of defies what we normally see in these local ghost stories We cover quite a few on the show But I research for way more hours and it takes to find the two or three stories to cover on an episode And I'm sure you guys have read all sorts of books about ghosts or websites about ghosts There's so many of these local legends and they're usually scary Crybaby bridge you get a sound of a baby gurgling in the water because they fell off the bridge a long time ago We've done episodes like that haunted houses the screams of the dead and the dying trapped in there like flies and amber Very rarely do you get a gift? Not just a normal hauntings I'm talking about like the teenagers in town making up a ghost story to scare their little brothers and sisters and then it gets passed down from Generation to generation It's usually bloody or scarier the woman down at the river or the headless hitchhiker on the railroad tracks all that stuff This one is money You want to go here now the fact that money doesn't exist like when you get there It's not there They're me that kind of contemporary But you know what I mean like if you were gonna make up a ghost story This one is so bizarre and it's so outside of normal ghost even like made up those stories when I'm saying this one might be a local legend that has some Truth to it Because it's so bizarre if you're gonna make it up. I mean hats off you made up something completely original to it I'm curious I know we got a lot of listeners all over the world I'm curious for the people in Maine if they've ever heard of this story before because if you look up Holton Maine ghosts This one comes up pretty often I found the original on the shadowlands.net and then I was trying to confirm stuff trying to figure out You know what part of the story is real couldn't confirm any of it But you know actually now the thing about it It could be that the people the money is flying out of the house of people are putting their pockets and they go no And when you get there, there's no money. There's no money I was there wearing like a $3,000 suit.
They got a little monocle. They're like no I drive by there at least once a week, but there's no money no money at all So you won't go maybe the money shooting out of the house and they're taking it all but a pretty interesting honey But that's not the main reason why we're in Holton Maine Because it's fascinating as it is as it goes to mother so lonely because all over kids are gone And she's trapped in this abandoned house that she throws money out the window to get other people to show up I came across this and I was shocked I didn't know any of this information Maybe I'm building it up too much, but yes, let's go ahead and we're gonna walk to the corner store We're gonna walk to the corner market ding ding we walk in and it's like a little convenience store There's a guy standing behind the counter. He's like hey guys, what's up? I'm here to get something to drink And I'm walking around and I go all of these drinks here.
We know Coca Cola was originally made with cocaine or the coca leaf And it was a medicinal drink. Did you know that? They don't put so much cocaine in it now We don't know how much cocaine they put on it because they have their secret recipe. They say there's no cocaine in it But it's pretty delicious.
It's pretty delicious. Coca Cola is my favorite Soft drink. I can't drink it that often because it's so full of sugar and so and cocaine Coca Cola started off with a little bit of cocaine in it. Dr.
Pepper originally started off as a medicinal drink That's why it tastes like prune juice. It's disgusting. It's a disgusting beverage disguise It's the trick is because it's right next to all the other stuff Dr. Pepper was a medicinal drink.
It was the guy who invented it Dr. Ronald Pepper whatever his name was he called it Dr. Pepper because it's supposed to be medicinal a doctor You drink it it rebalances your gut health. I don't think that's true anymore I think it's made of all the same garbage that all these other sodas are making like horrible stomach I go the doctors orders like like like like or they got all these drinks Pepsi all this others I don't know what they're all about but anyways, we're standing there We see this big cardboard cutout of a guy on a snowboard Doing a sick snowboard trick while he's playing the PlayStation to flying in the air It's this big cardboard cutouts is do the do I go yeah Do the do Mountain do do you know the secret history of Mountain do?
She reached for the fast forward button. You're like Jason. I don't care. Hold on.
Hold on. Don't it fast forward just yet When I was reading about Holton, Maine, they were talking about the house with the money shooting out of it It also said that it was weird because it said this happened It didn't say they're actually ghost related to this but it said in the town of Holton years and years ago There was a bunch of old folks who drank canned heat and died And I was like what are there ghosts are there ghosts of old people floating around town question number one question number two is what's canned heat? And I remember thinking are you talking about sterno? So I don't know if you guys know this but like you know whenever you go to like a corporate buffet You don't actually go to like you know country road kitchen or whatever those places are called old town buffet You go to like a corporate buffet, right?
You're working for a company and they're gonna have this big party for you and they bring in all this beef and meat and Stuff that you need to keep warm you have these little cans of sterno It's a little can it's full of this pink goo this pink liquid and you light it on fire And it just burns for hours and hours. I remember the first time I saw one was just a couple years ago I never knew these things existed until probably like 2012 2013. I was like what the well I saw someone like one What are you doing wow that's amazing? You never want campaign?
I am but we never had access to this fancy technologies hands heat It's basically a little fuel gauge and they get really hot and you don't want to spill them on you So I goes that would be we're drinking really drinking canned heat So I start looking it up apparently and just for anyone who's listening to this the algorithm. I'm not suggesting you do this I'm gonna give a recipe for it. I'm not saying you should do it. It's deadly these old people died in Holton from it The way it's set up is it's alcohol.
There's alcohol in it But if it is a I get this right if it's a grain alcohol like ethanol you can drink it But if it's a wood alcohol like methanol, which is what is used in the sterno cans and other fuel sources if it's methanol So alcohol it will get you really really high really really quickly and then either fry out your optic nerves A lot of people go blind off this type of stuff or just kill you People do drink it. So it's cheap and especially during prohibition. You had like hardcore alcohol. It's being like, oh, where am I gonna get my next?
Rush and they go well, I know that sterno or can't he I don't know if that was a branding back They said enough to wait for their lawyers to be like quit telling people to drink that's what even associated with this People were buying canned heat because it's cheap and especially during the prohibition you could get it and they would Filter it they go well, maybe this Lord maybe drinking this fuel source, but if I run it through a sock Just clean nothing's cleaner than I hope of sock in the 1920s You put this I'm not telling people to do this But they would put the sterno and they drip it out through a sock and then the fluid that came out of the sock They go, well, this is clearly good to drink I just got a feeling around and I go where to put my socks I need to make more of this they would filter the sterno through the sock another group of people They were a little fancier about it They would get a loaf of French bread and they would cut the ends off of it and pour it through the French bread They're like la la we are making the sterno we are making the drink the pink lady is what they call it They call it a pink lady or you would mix it with some fruit drinks. They call it jungle juice They call it squeeze these are all slang terms for can't eat and reading this is like I listen I get it. I know people drink all sorts of stuff when they're in a dire situation in Philadelphia in 1963 They had a wave of people die in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 31 people died from drinking can't heat It's not just a prohibition thing people were doing this I'm sure people still do it, but they were drinking it and they actually found the shop owner was selling it as a beverage I'll keep it in the cooler next to the Pepsi's like oh, yes a Pepsi will put a pep in your step, but sterno sterno will melt your eyeballs They're like that's not a selling point. He was selling it as a beverage and 31 people died from it And you know what's interesting I started looking up Holton main old a newspaper and sure enough 1964 a couple people died January in 1864 in Holton main at nine people died and three people were hospitalized because they were drinking can't eat So I thought it was interesting that that was in there There's no mention of the ghost and the shadow lines thought that it just goes some old people died drinking can't eat So I wonder if there are ghosts of old people floating around You see like a friend slow float by you see the ins and removes like oh come on man You can't do that no more pass on to the light going to the light quit it.
Put your neck stuff Well, there's a lot of nicknames for it. They would call it the squeeze or jungle juice Pink lady all sorts of stuff and I understand that people love to mix fruity drinks with their alcohol I used to drink mad dog 2020, but I originally I drank bottles and James. I would get those bottles and James What do they call like fruit coolers? Wine coolers wine coolers bottles and James and I drink those and I didn't make fun of it every party I was up and I was like go ahead and make fun of me.
I don't care I'm drinking bottles and James and they're absolutely delicious But then you know I was like my dog 2020 mrs. Fruit that's fruit with a big air quotes flavored basically just a red coloring Drink some ad dog. I didn't really like using mixers. I'm drinking it straight right whiskey vodka ever clear and I didn't need a mixer to drink my ever clear, but you know sometimes you just shoot back 150 proof and You don't die.
I hope that you just don't have an undi knows brain aneurysm from all these toxins going through system I don't drink anymore, but you know I did in my 20th But back in 1940s there were these two brothers. This was back in It was Tennessee these two brothers you had Barney and Ally Heartland and they love drinking whiskey It's a good drink, right? You love drinking whiskey, but they kind of lame about it They wanted to add a flavoring to their whiskey. They're not like me.
They just take it shoot it right to the brain They're kind of kind of lame. So they go, you know what we really want to do is we want to have a flavor to kind of wash down our whiskey They also said you know to be really cool because you know people do coke and whiskey and all that stuff They go what if we have something with caffeine? So we get that whole like coconut whiskey type of thing we want a mixer that has caffeine in it gives us a little kick the brothers Are like yeah, yeah, and then they go what if you know me you know me bro. We like stuff citrusy We like stuff to be a little sweet What if we can make our own mixer?
What if we could come up with a citrus flavored drink that has a high caffeine content specifically crafted to be used with whiskey and They did they came up with this concoction and they named it after an old slang term for moonshine You know making this whiskey and they were going to store to buy the whiskey and then going oh we should invent their own mixer They're making their own whiskey. They decided to make their own mixer There's an old Irish song from 1882 about homemade whiskey, and it's called the rare old Mountain Dew So they go that's what this is. This is a mixer Mountain Dew was invented to be a mixer their original mascot was a guy named Hill Billy Willie, which I think they should have never gotten rid of him I would have loved to see Hill Billy Willie in the 90s doing all the skater stuff having the shoes on trying to be cool and radical So we're standing now outside of this convenience store. We're all drinking Mountain Dew Code red maybe some of you guys got the code red maybe Swell bro, it's so full of all these additives like I don't want any of it you're standing over there drinking water We're kicking back or drinking some Mountain Dew I go so that is the origin story of Mountain Dew You know what's funny is a couple months ago I was walking I was out walking to work and it popped in my head I go Why do they call it Mountain Dew my instant answer was oh because it's supposed to be so clean and pure There's nothing more fresh than Mountain Dew and I didn't even think about it again until I found out that it was actually Moonshine and to me honestly I can't think of a grosser drink Well, I can't think of a grosser drink obviously like motor oil and vomit But like a drink I would never want to mix whiskey with Mountain Dew that sounds really really rank Honestly, but it was invented as a mixer and now kids drink it because they do the do it's so cool So a cool history lesson now the next time you run into someone and they're like hey man, what do you're like?
You're not 20 minutes when tell you all about a mother died in front of her children and the history of Mountain Dew and they're like Is there running away you're like check out that radio so everyone Now you know the history of Mountain Dew I didn't know that I thought that was all fascinating stuff And hopefully you did too because I spent 20 minutes talking about it Bs, let's go ahead and tauchy the keys to the world famous barber copter. We are leaving behind Maine What are you flying us all the way out to? Texas. Duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh B.
S. has taken us all the way out to Texas. Specifically, we're at Fort Bliss, which is a military base. We're all dressed up in our military uniforms.
We're walking around, and I'm like saluting people, and they go, oh, he's clearly the military. He knows about the secret saluting, and we get past the guards, and we're walking around, and I go, welcome everybody to Fort Bliss. This is a military base. Pretty cool.
Even if you need not a big pile of ammunition, it's like you're at a mall drunk off Dusain. Hey, you got any sterno around here? I like the hard stuff. We're hanging out at this military base.
We're about to meet this woman. We don't have a real name. We're going to call her Monica. She lives on base or post, I think, is the turn they use with her family.
One morning, this is pretty recent. We're talking like April, May of 2024 is what it sounds like. So, almost as recent as you can get. Monica and her husband are leaving the base, and as they drive out, the gate that's nearest to them.
She looks, and she sees on the side of the road in the grass, there is a really nice motorcycle just laying there. And it catches her eye, one, because you don't expect a motor vehicle to just be abandoned on the side of the road, two. It's really nice. So she thinks, like if there's a rust little bicycle, you'd be like, come on, military, you can't clean up this street right outside your base.
You see a nice motorcycle. She hadn't seen it before. She looks, she thinks there must have been an accident. Someone must have went off the road on their motorcycle, and she's talking to her husband.
She's like, hey, honey, honey, there's a motorcycle. We just passed the motorcycle that looked like it was just kind of laying down on the side of the road. Someone might have gotten an accident. We should go and let people know, let the MPs know on the base, the military police.
Something might have happened. We should warn them, or you don't like it. Anyone's out there? We need them.
The husband just keeps driving. We'll put a little feather in that for a second. She says, we continue on our way. We go shopping.
We turn around. We come back. By this time it's the afternoon. They left in the morning.
So this is like a full day shopping trip. Then you come back. She doesn't state that she saw the motorcycle there when they returned. The next morning, Monica's husband says, hey, honey, today if you have to leave the base, you're not going to be able to use that gate that we usually use.
The gate that's really close to us. And she's like, oh, is everything okay? He goes, well, no, actually not. Earlier this morning, there's a young man on his motorcycle and he got hit by a car right outside him.
He's passed away. And Monica starts to get upset by this, which is fair because she goes, oh my God, did I actually see that was going to happen? She eventually finds out that the motorcycle this young man was on because she doesn't go to the scene. She doesn't go there.
She's like, everyone out of the way, I'm a medium. Just like Jennifer Lovecue, let me find out what's going on. She's all touching stuff. No, she waits a while.
And over time she goes, my husband found out what type of motorcycle he was riding from the military police. And he told me what the type of motorcycle is and I looked it up online. And that's the same model of motorcycle that I saw on the side of the road. It wasn't just, I saw one random motorcycle the next day, someone else on a toilet.
She goes up to the same motorcycle. And people start asking her details. Not necessarily like questioning her, questioning her out of anger. They're just trying to get some clarification.
She posted this online underneath the name only Tangerine three, six, seven, one. And she said, my husband never saw the motorcycle when we were driving that day before and I looked and I saw the motorcycle in the grass. She goes, my husband never saw the motorcycle. I mean, I did.
But I saw it. She goes, I was looking directly at it. It wasn't something I cut out of the corner of my eye. Was it like, you know, a trick of the light?
She goes, I was not on any drugs. I clearly saw this motorcycle. And she starts to think, and you know, you know, people one person at least said, you could have done something to save him. And she's like, but what?
What could I have done? I see a motorcycle. I mean, I guess I could have walked around all over the base looking in everyone's garages to see if they had a similar motorcycle and warn them, but outside of that or telling the guards at the gate saying, hey, I had a vision of a motorcycle outside the, because again, she doesn't even know when it happens that it's paranormal. She's worried then that someone might have just gotten into an accident.
There's really nothing she could have done is why I'm saying. And this is something we talk about on the show. She could run around the base, tell people, oh my God, there might be an accident tomorrow. There's a bike on the side of the road.
People with label for her is crazy. It would actually hurt her husband's career. And a lot of times we experience stuff that is paranormal that we don't tell people. And again, she didn't think this was paranormal until the next day when it actually happened.
And then she goes, wow, maybe I did see a little bit into the future. Now, it's only a story for two reasons. We're going to do a little comparing contrast. I know the episodes have been getting long lately.
I'm really trying to fix that, but we're going to do a little comparing contrast. On the one hand, I think it's an interesting paranormal story, seen briefly into the future. Why her? Why then?
Could she have done anything to stop it? I don't think so. But why did she see it? Very, very interesting.
Now, I like to go through people's posting history when I can. That is one of the bonuses to finding stuff on Reddit, because that you can find out what else they talked about. Whether or not you believe that story, let's pretend that you do. Let's pretend that you accept that story as she told it.
She's not deceiving us, at least. She's not making it up. You can go, maybe she saw this, maybe she saw that. But let's say that the story itself is accurate from her point of view.
I continue to look through. And this is an judgment. This is an interesting kind of compare and contrast thing, because we're going to do another story right after this. I began looking through her posting history.
And Monica, what she did isn't her own name. And she posted all the stuff online. She's pretty open about it. She, for a while, was diagnosed as bipolar.
She said that it was a misdiagnosis, but they started treating me with medication for my, for what they said was bipolar disorder. She said she wasn't on drugs. And I think when people say that, she means stuff like acid or weed or coke or Mountain Dew, it does seem to me, like you were posting history, and she was taking it so often, Sarah Quill, among possibly other drugs. Sarah Quill, I looked up, it can cause unusual dreams, but it's not necessarily going to cause hallucinations.
Zoloft may or may not have probably checked that out too. But Sarah Quill can give you, Sarah Quill can give you unusual nightmares. And she says she goes, she does have this dream. She dreams not all the time, but enough of an alternate version of her dying in a horrific way.
It's different. I guess it's different times she died. So that Sarah Quill could be causing that. Apparently, Zoloft can trigger hallucinations.
So here's my thing. You go, Jason, I believe that she saw something. Now that I have told you that during the time of this narrative, she was on Zoloft in Sarah Quill, does that change the story for you in any way? Because it's an interesting, yesterday's episode, we talked about what happens when you have someone who's insane, who's mentally insane, and they're hallucinating a malicious figure in their life, someone that no one else can see.
Or that guy is normal and he's actually seeing a demon that won't leave him alone. But there's a third possibility that you could be both insane and there's a real demon there. And I'm not saying Monica's insane, but it's definitely possible that you are taking medication and you see something that's real. I think sometimes we go, listen man, I do it.
When I'm looking for stuff to read, when I'm looking for stuff to research and talk to you about, if I see really any point in the narrative, I do this because I have to consume so much information to find the two or three stories to put out an episode. If I see, we were dropping acid that day, I'm probably not going to finish it. I might skim it a little bit and then we were smoking the biggest doobie that day, man. It was fat.
It was fatter. Oh, for one freeze, punchy legs. I'll probably skip it. And a lot of it's just a time constraint.
I'm not necessarily doing that with medicine like this. If I'm reading a narrative. Now I didn't know she was taking the stuff when I read the initial narrative. I'm not necessarily going to dismiss it at all.
Just out of hand, like I would if someone said, we dropped a bunch of acid and then I saw my brother get attacked by goblins, but then everything was fine. I looked over and he was eating his face and all yummy, yummy, that's decent food in the world, brother face. I think it's possible to be on these types of medications and still see real phenomenon. But I'm curious what you guys think about that.
Am I giving it a pass? Here's the thing, if the accident didn't happen the next day, it would just be about a person who's on motorcycle on the side of the road. It wouldn't be notable at all. And what's interesting is she says we just kept driving down the road.
Remember the husband didn't believe her. He didn't go, oh, honey, well, if there's motorcycle on the side of the road, you're right. So I'm like, if you saw a car kind of sticking out of a creek, like the back of a car, you stop or you would say, hey, we just passed the car. It's in the creek.
And if you didn't see it, but someone you were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, do you see that? Oh my God, we just, I think I saw a car in the creek. You probably turn around or you play yourself on the call somebody. I'm wondering if her husband is used to this type of stuff.
I'm wondering if her husband's like, oh, honey, it's OK. I wonder if she does see things from time to time that didn't turn out to be real. Because it doesn't say the husband just keeps driving. Interesting story.
So does the fact that she takes this medication and she says she was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder, which is totally possible. It sounds like she's still on it because looking at her posting history, she can't just stop taking the medicine. You have to like lean yourself off of it. So I think there's this kind of push and pull going on.
We wish you'd have to ask a lot Monica, like, if you do need the medicine, it's helping you out. That's perfect. If you don't need the medicine, you have to step back slowly and safely. Does it change the narrative?
I got another story for you, a little compare and contrast. When Monica posted this online, someone responded to her, someone who we will call Phoebe. And Phoebe goes, oh my God, it's a crazy story. I had something kind of similar to happen to me back in 2005.
Phoebe said she was driving down the road. You can tell the story takes place in 2005 because she was driving down the road and talking to her friend on the phone at the same time. Talking to her friend, we'll call her friend Valerie. Phoebe's driving down the road has the phone.
Oh, Valerie, you won't believe what happened the other day on the big bank theory. The Bazing boy, he ate an entire cake. It was shaped like Pluto. And Valerie's like, what?
I missed that episode. He was like, yeah, it was a banger. It was a great episode. And she's driving and she's talking to Valerie when all of a sudden in the oncoming lane of traffic, right?
Phoebe's driving one way. She sees this car coming towards her. But not like they're going to get in the head on the collision. Just coming down the opposite side of the road.
Phoebe looks at that car and someone catches her eye and she can't look away. She goes, what I see is the driver of that car is a corpse. It's the desiccated remains of a woman driving by. And she goes, listen, I got a good look at it because we were coming in different directions.
She goes, I got a good look at it. She goes, it wasn't zombie makeup. It wasn't so much dressed up like this. It wasn't a trick of a light.
I wasn't on drugs. She said it looks so much like a corpse. It wasn't moving. The hands were just kind of locked onto the steering wheel.
And she said that you could just tell that whoever was driving this car had been dead for a long long time. The corpse's mouth, its jaw was kind of angled out in this almost impossible way that a human living human jaw would look and it's driving by Phoebe who's talking to Valerie on the phone and be screaming, oh my god, oh my god, there's a corpse. There's this dead person driving the car next to me. Oh, he's like, what?
I don't think big theory. No, no, no, this woman, this woman, oh my god, this is so terrifying and the two cars pass each other. And Phoebe is terrified by what she just saw. She goes, it was so gruesome.
2023, 18 years later, Phoebe gets some bad news. She finds out that Valerie died in a car accident. She was killed instantly during the car crash. And Valerie says, looking back, I feel like the two things were related.
I think that seeing this mummy driving the car while I was talking to Valerie is somehow related to the way Valerie died. And despite the fact that it looked so gruesome that when she first saw it was so terrifying, she goes, it actually kind of gives me a bit of peace because it tells me that there are a lot of things in this world we don't understand. There's a whole lot of mysteries to life and existence. And when you believe in things like that, when you do believe that the world is full of weird, terrifying, but sometimes wonderful things, it can give you a sense of solace when you lose somebody close to you.
Even though it was this weird thing that terrified her at the moment at the time, she goes, it kind of told me that there's stuff that we can't explain. When there's stuff that you can't explain, then the other stuff you can't explain might be real too, like life after death. Interesting, narrative. Interesting narrative, interesting story.
She posted this online underneath the name, mush bomb 13. Now Phoebe, again not a real name, I went through her posting history, kind of gives me a snapshot of the person. I do it because it helps me weed out the fake stories. It's a little bit extra time, but it saves us time, you and me time, by not repeating really sensational stuff because it turns out they're Reddit histories full of really sensational stuff and they're a fiction author on 10 different subreddits and then they post on the paranormal subreddit this crazy story.
That is another time when I'll start to dismiss things. I mean, like, well, you know, if you're a horror writer and you're part of all these horror writer, Reddit groups, and all of a sudden you post something on a paranormal group with a little suspicious, but she, Phoebe, posted on suboxone subreddits, which I'm not super familiar with how it works or where you get it, but it's kind of like methadone, not chemically, but it's basically a drug that helps you get off of opioids. Some people do it to get high, but for the most part it's for people who are trying to get off opioids. She also post on narcotics anonymous subreddits.
So again, you say, well, does this story change? She doesn't specifically say she was on narcotics back in 2005. That could be a much more recent thing. She said she was on drugs.
We can accept that. Narcotics, I mean, you would have to do herculean amounts of narcotics in 2005 to hallucinate. I mean, probably shouldn't be driving at all if you're on enough, bike it in or whatever you're on back in 2005. She might not have been on any of it.
But that's not what changed just the narrative for me. Maybe, maybe I'm being a little too, well, let me just tell you, let me just tell you, no, still you. I'm looking through her posting, I didn't go looking for this, right? I didn't even know it existed.
Look at her posting history, it's on these different subreddits, these different subreddits, and then I come across a subreddit that she posts on called Panty Poop 2. And then I was like, whoa, got to take a drink, got to go grab open a new dipepsy, because I'm going to have to read weirdness on this subreddit. Apparently, Panty Poop, the original subreddit got taken down. So they started Panty Poop 2, and Phoebe has responded to some of these posts.
Phoebe says she writes this, I'm not going to go into it, but I'll just read it. I'm just reading it. I'm like, no, like, off, we'll send it up. Phoebe says quote, I like to do it while standing.
It feels really cool, because so often you're not standing when you poop normally, nor are you fully clothed. She's just shaking up the scene. She's thinking outside the box, which is true. What's the last time you poop standing up when you were a baby?
It feels really cool, because so often you're not standing when you poop normally, nor are you fully clothed. I'll kind of hide somewhere. Probably go to the middle of the street. You're just like standing up and you're like, what?
What's going on? Pooping your pants. She goes, I'll kind of hide somewhere. Just feel safer.
I'm behind a tree or in the shed getting something. It's after I poop my pants, so I get into some cool positions. Okay, we're done. I'm not going to read any further.
She's going yoga moves and stuff like that. I'm like, oh, yeah. Time to do an hour yoga activity. 98 degrees outside.
They're like, oh, what's that? Orls? She's like, I need to go to the shed. I'll be back.
She has all of these posts. All of these posts. She posts several times on this subreddit about how much she loves to poop her pants on purpose and how she encourages. Oh, no, it's great.
You should try it. You should try it sometime. You should try standing up. Break the mold.
Does that change the narrative for you? I get it. People have fetishes. Some people have hair fetishes.
People have all sorts of fetishes. But there are fetishes. I like seeing a girl in high heels. And then there's this.
I mean, imagine you're on a jury and someone comes up and they get really credible testimony. She points out the defendant. She has all the stuff. And then the defendant's lawyer gets up.
The defendant gets up and they go, she likes to poop her pants. She loves to poop in her pants all the time. Not only when she's being mugged. Here's a photo of her walking into a shed.
We hired a private investigator. Private investigator has a clothespin on a stone. That's the worst job I ever had. Here's a photo of her walking into the shed.
And if you notice photo too, when she's walking out of the shed, you can say, it's her little heavier. You can say, oh, no, it's not that she had a couple tools in the back of her pants. No, she pooped her pants in the shed. So clearly, who are you going to believe?
My client who is an abstaining citizen who uses a toilet to go to the bathroom or her, a woman who poops her pants on purpose. Does that change things? Does that really make you go? Well, this person might have some underlying issues, which maybe, right, they may have some underlying issues.
It could be a fat who knows. It boggles my mind why anyone would want to do this. To me, I would go, hey, this is like, I don't know the answer. Because again, I didn't go looking for this.
I just found the story. But a mummy driving a car is like, oh, that's pretty cool. And once I select to do it, then I go through the posting history. And I'm just kind of scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.
And I go, oh, great. A painting poop. I can poop, subreddit. I've already got shut down and they have to start a new one.
There's enough of a demand for it that they're like, we need the subreddit. We need poop. So does that change the game? If someone tells you a story, you may go, Jason, I don't leave mummies can drive cars.
You make the Smiths out of hand. But let's say again that she saw something, that it wasn't sure of the light that she's not making it up. She's telling the story accurately from her point of view. If you find out that she poops her pants on purpose for fun and then just likes to kind of move around in it.
Stop doing the baby dance. Who got chucked? What? She's wearing a diaper.
No, I don't think they wear diapers. That's even weirder, right? You'd have such high laundry bills. I'm assuming they wash their clothes.
I just thought, oh, man. And she's like, oh, this one goes in the hall of fame. And everyone's not one. Does it change the thing?
Does it change the story about the mummy driving the car? If the person telling it poops their pants in public on purpose. And again, I don't know. I think both of these stories can, I think it's possible that you do love poop, pooping your pants.
And you can still see a mise. That's it. Come on, man. We got to have a shirt that says that.
It's possible that even if you enjoy pooping your pants, you can still see a mummy driving a car down the street. If one does not negate the other. However, I do think a lot of people would say, no, Jason, she clearly has some issues if she's pooping her pants. I'm not the whole drug thing.
The whole suboxone and the narcotics anonymous, that is not even on the table for me. Like I don't think that's affecting it at all. If someone poops their pants for fun, it's like, I believe that both of these stories happened. I'll put my cards on the table.
I believe that both of these experiences were real. But I think there are a good amount of people who, the first one they'd go, no, probably not. If she's on that type of medication and she's undiagnosed by a polar, what does she have? And you can see nothing.
The doctor could have prescribed her stuff and she doesn't really have anything. I can see the first one getting more dismissed than the second one. But I think the second one, if you sit and think about it, more people may go, no, Jason, both of these people have some issues, some underlying issues, and they're seeing things that aren't there. And I think that both can be true.
You can have some sort of underlying mental health issue and experience the paranormal. I don't think one negates the other. I think one can lead to the other. I think you can have so many paranormal events happen to you that you start to lose grasp of reality.
We got a story coming up about that probably not this week, maybe at the end of the week, maybe next week. It's kind of along that line. This guy started seeing stuff. He had a really traumatic paranormal experience and it shook him to the core.
This is terrified him. He's an author, he's a professional, but he wrote this book and he said, you know, I had a really hard time clawing my way back to the world of the real. Because what he saw, he believes was totally true because I have this paranormal vision and I do believe that was true and it was so terrifying to me and other events that were happening in my life were just shaking what I thought was reality, shaking that cage so hard I was starting to disassociate. I started to lose my mind.
So that's a really interesting thing. I think paranormal activities can cause mental illness. I think having mental illness can cause paranormal events to happen to you, especially if they're negative ones. They may go, oh, this person's their psychic defenses are already really weak.
They're already dealing with all this stuff. I'm going to attack them. They've already burned all their bridges with their family members. They've already done all this stuff that's ostracized them from the local community.
Perfect target for evil entity. I think that paranormal events can cause mental illness. I think having mental illness can cause these things to target you, but they can also target anyway. People can have paranormal events and not be mentally ill.
I don't think say the who are the two famous one, Ed and Lorraine Warren. They just had tons of paranormal experiences. I don't think they were mentally ill. People like Zach Baggins, people like the ghost hunters, you know, the show, the sci-fi show.
I don't think they're mentally ill, even though they were constantly encountering the stuff that's weird. Vin diagram. There are in some places a crossover. That's something we've got to talk about when we talk about the paranormal.
It really is something. You can't accept all of them as true, even though there's clues throughout the narrative that maybe the fact that the husband did not pull over, the fact that the husband just kept driving down the road makes me think that she might have quote-unquote seen things like this before. Or Ben Alarm, or had a panic attack about something and he's had to learn to just be like, honey, let's just go to the story. Let's just navigate her back into the real world.
That kind of makes me. Again, I'm just guessing off of her narrative. We do have to address it. You can't say that all of it's real.
I also don't think you can say all of it is mental illness. I think both of those are undercutting so much of this world. If somebody does have a super bizarre fetish, it doesn't necessarily make them not credible to me. I can understand why other people will be like, no, Jason, she's clearly going through some serious stuff.
I'd love to hear your guys' feedback on that. Which one of these are both super credible to you is one more credible than the other. Again, from the point of view that if you accept that they're not lying, that they actually saw something, she actually saw the motorcycle. Do you think it was hallucination?
Do you think it was paranormal? What the other story? Did she actually saw the mummy driving the car? Did she actually see the mummy driving the car?
Or is there something maybe undiagnosed there? I think they both saw the things. I think they both wore open mic cards on the table again. They were both paranormal.
I think both of them saw the things. I'm not discounting the stories. They're very, very interesting. When we researched the stuff, these are questions we have to answer.
These are questions we have to ask. We may never have to answer, but it's something we do have to address. Because otherwise, we'll just blind to the truth. That's what we want to do on this show.
That's what all paranormal researchers want. The truth to what is going on in this phenomenon. And sometimes the truth takes us to places where we might not want to travel. He's a shed, for example.
A shed that has a unique stench. Sometimes the truth is in there. And you got to step inside. On the outside, standing out in the street corner, I'm like, oh, fresh air.
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