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EPISODE · May 19, 2026 · 56 MIN

Ep 130 | You gotta get messy to get great with Steve Chavez

from DesuckifyWork® · host DesuckifyWork

Humans are a messy species.And that’s awesome. Every drop of joy, meaning, purpose, love, hope and creativity comes from that messiness.AI creates slop. We’re sloppy, which leads to works of genius.So what kind of work do we want to be doing? That’s the question Steve Chavez and I dig into during this week’s DesuckifyWork® podcast.Steve is the Chief Creative Officer at Buntin, an ad agency in Nashville. He’s been doing this kind of work for years. And he’s also my former boss.Here’s what he thinks about the way we should be working. 🐱 More human imperfectness🐱 More real conversations in person🐱 More magical collaborationI have a hard time arguing with any of these, even as someone who advocates for remote work. Humans need to bump up against each other sometimes. See what spills out.So, who wants to make a mess together?Welcome to the DesuckifyWork® podcast. The show where we cut through the BS and find ways to make work more fun, more human and less ridiculous. All of which makes your business more profitable, by the way.(If you enjoy this one, please like, share, rate, review or subscribe to the podcast.)Let the desuckifying begin.You can follow Steve on LinkedIn. And check out BUNTIN’s site at buntingroup.com. You can also reach out to him directly at [email protected] you enjoyed the conversation and would like to find some calm in the chaos of work, I invite you to schedule a free half-hour discovery session. Type “meow” in the calendar invite and I’ll also send you a free DesuckifyWork® t-shirt!Bye, everyone!Bonus questions from Steve:Do you believe that we (the advertising industry) are still in the persuasion business at the end of the day. Get full access to DesuckifyWork® at tjbennett.substack.com/subscribe

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